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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Epstein files no doubt have their
bombshells that scum like Crumb the 1st and others are doing everything they can do to hide. Once names are named there will of course be lawyers and others trying to parse around words, excuses etc. to claim that this one or that was just in the wrong place at the wrong time and never really knew anything. We expect that sort of BS coverup for many of them.
But what they can't get around are the videos. That's where the rubber is really going to meet the road. You can have lawyers trying to use all the PR BS in the world to try and explain away words in a file but videos of big shots cavorting with young girls won't go away with a few press releases and denials.
Epstein had cameras all over the place and when the Florida case was ongoing he got tipped off by someone that the investigators were going to seize any computers in his Florida home and they were no longer around. That computer was known to have the surveillance camera footage of who came and went. If not more.
That disappearance and Epstein being tipped off is part of a very good article titled "Ex-Florida police chief: Epstein case 'the worst failure of the criminal justice system' in modern times" dated 09/20/19 from the NBC news site with a byline from Sarah Fitzpatrick and Rich Schapiro. After some months of investigation went on the local police obtained a warrant for evidence at the home. But when they arrived they found the strong suspicion that Epstein had been tipped. The former chief notes:
"It wasnt completely devoid of evidence but a computer that contained all of the homes surveillance camera footage was gone. And all the wires were left hanging there, Reiter said."
But that wasn't the only time that Epstein seemed to be tipped off by people within the government. Later on the chief notes:
We believed that the content of our probable cause affidavit eventually, some time after we presented it to the state attorney's office, ended up with the defense attorneys, Reiter said. Because minute details that nobody else knew that were in those documents were being refuted and contrary information provided by the defense.
The state prosecutors had openly given the chief the claim that the witnesses weren't credible and they were less than enthusiastic compared to their previous assurances. Money, intimidation and connections were no doubt in play and the chief had early on realized that this was a conspiracy to commit these crimes that involved a large number of people. Not just some lone quirky guy in a big house.
So people in government positions, apparently local, state and Federal, were involved in trying to make this "go away" by tipping off Epstein and trying to pooh-pooh the whole thing. It was a classic move to quash any deeper investigation and try and resolve the matter with an early "plea" to some lesser charge. They thought they had been successful. Until Epstein got nailed again. Now it all started coming back out. The sweetheart deal. The stories of the victims appearing in the news again.
So it is not believable that some of the ones who helped him all along, and perhaps helped themselves to young girls, along with the government rats who tipped off Epstein in the Florida case would stop trying to make this "go away" again. Because now most of those rats and big shots, if not all of them, are still around in various positions in business, law or possibly still in government.
It would be no surprise that they don't want things coming out because that might lead to their involvement in illegality during the Florida investigation. But we must demand that not only do we get the files and the videos. All of it. But we must also demand that the lawyers involved disclose who tipped them off because that was a felonious act and should be enough to pierce the veil of the attorney client privilege. Even without that we need to dig out the truth, as much as we can, about the malfeasance and criminal conduct of those who tipped off Epstein.
As the chief notes part of the problem is how laws are worded and the way people like Epstein figure out how to find loopholes and how lawyers can coach a client on how to stay in the misdemeanor range of penalties:
"If you look at the first dozen victims and their accounts of what happened to them, its clear to me he was coached by a lawyer on how to only commit a misdemeanor, Reiter said."
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ex-florida-police-chief-epstein-case-worst-failure-criminal-justice-n1057226

Scrivener7
(57,030 posts)that Senator Wyden is trying to make public.

MrWowWow
(1,028 posts)Somewhere on the Internet, there's a stash of videos. Maybe this is a deadman's switch or something. When those videos surface and they will, the pedos shown in them best run for the hills. Their lives will be over.
Oppaloopa
(920 posts)Gawker went down or we would all have this information quie awhile ago.
rampartd
(2,409 posts)and the videos? you know he has them,
"child pornography that will never be shown" bondi