Fascists Be Us is their motto, or should be...

Almost a similar number too.

And so, while they were in the country legally, they were not legally allowed to work.

Especially coming from this administration.
A multinational company is not about to violate immigration laws by asking employees to work on visitor visa.
We are not talking about employing people in the field to harvest crops, these south Korean employees are tech workers, many of them in managerial positions.

Of all the reports I have read, there is not a single denial of those charges from either the South Korean government or the companies involved.

Lots of other statements from those parties, but no denials that the workers were employed illegally.

...Americans know the difference, but pretend otherwise for foreigners because our government criminalizes work.

And it's weird, becaise mostly republican governors and republican legislators eager to cut off unemployment funds just a few years back were making such a fuss about not being able to fill these kinds of jobs.

Now I guess we're going to pretend Georgia residents are going to step into these positions.

I get it’s hard to find Americans willing to work the fields and clean hotel rooms, but car factories?

Shouldnt Hyundai spend money training American workers to work in their battery factories rather than just importing Koreans?

Latest job figures show there are currently more job seekers than job openings in the US.

I don’t support ICE’s tactics, but the lack of denials by Hyundai and the South Korean government indicates they know they were in the wrong.

...based in the abusive laws and regulations which have long been at the discretion of the government to enforce, applied by this administration to the degree that they're putting workers in chains and calling them criminals.

You characterize them whatever way you want, project whatever expectations that make you feel comfortable with the position you take about enforcement of the law in this case.

That doesn't make any of this right, and you can argue the law from here to eternity and you won't get a bit of agreement from me that people coming here to seek work and raise families are criminals because they haven't filled out the right form, or overstayed their visas.

They work in the factories that provide economic benefit to Georgia and the U.S., and pay consumption taxes without the benefits of citizenship, and support the local economy with what they spend.

I don't understand posturing against them like they deserve this treatment, but I do understand that this has been made into an accepted American attitude by politicians and others who can't see past their own antipathies toward foreigners who live and work here.

If Georgia residents want those jobs, they should be racing for the employment office. We'll see... I mean I'll see, because after the dust settles here, most people complaining about these foreign nationals working won't care a bit about the economy in Georgia, or this plant's success to bother to look.

Or the harsh treatment ICE inflicted upon them.

But you don’t seem to be able to answer why Hyundai felt the need to import Korean workers.

Was it because they created very narrowly defined job requirements that nobody who wasn’t already trained in Hyundai-specific battery technology could meet?

Those are questions that deserve answers.

It’s one thing for an American farmer who can’t find local workers to pick his crops to turn to immigrants for labor, and another thing entirely for a foreign company to launch a factory in the US and then circumvent labor laws (and American union workers) by importing foreign workers who they almost certainly pay less than American workers would make.

...where's the prosecution for circumventing U.S. laws?

All I see here is the U.S. roughing up workers, who you have left in the abstract in your concerns expressed here.

You're arguing with the wrong person about repressive laws that criminalize work and workers but never do more than fine the employers who can well afford the amounts and impact.

The real issue here for Americans is the ACTUAL economic impact of undocumented migrants or those with restricted visas on local economies and on the U.S economy.

As I bothered to show you above, it it indisputable that undocumented migrants contribute more to the U.S. economy through their WORK and their presence here than they take anything away from Americans.

If you subtract out all of the enforcement activities and the new ICE budget, you save even more.

Isn't THAT what has been argued against undocumented immigrants - putting aside the cowardly portrayals of workers and families as criminal threats - that they are a drain on the economy?

That's an absolute lie used to support what's essentially xenophobic displays of nationalism which almost never directly affect the people hollering about the impact on jobs the most.

I said it was an unanswered question as to why Hyundai brought in Korean workers- something you haven’t addressed in your responses. Were there no qualified American workers? Did any Americans apply? Were the jobs even posted to the public? Those are all reasonable, fair questions to ask.

Don’t misunderstand me- We agree on the economics of immigrant labor and the atrocities committed by ICE.

Beyond that, there are the issues of labor law and general fairness to American workers.

If you’re going to argue that foreign companies should be allowed to set up factories (likely with generous tax breaks) and then import lower paid workers from their home country without consequence to either the company or the workers, I think you will find your self in a distinct minority, even among Democrats and progressives.

...the company invested hundreds of billions and expects to produce some 8500 jobs. That's a bit more than the 300 skilled laborers that the company required which they presumably couldn't find here in the U,S., certainly not in Savannah Georgia.

How do we expect to have next generation plants without enough workers with the expertise to run them? And here you present this dilemma as Hyundai's problem when this and other next generation vehicle plants can locate anywhere in the world. They don't have to locate here, and probably should take their multi-billions where it's appreciated and leave Georgia and America to rot.

here's Trump talking about getting South Koreans to train people here to do the jobs he just vacated. Lol. What an absolute con.

Hyundai should have been able to get work visas for their trainers (assuming that’s who the 475 Koreans were), but apparently they weren’t - but we don’t yet know for sure.

I guess there’s more to learn about this story that we will hopefully know in the coming days.

If that is the case, then I wouldn’t blame Hyundai if they closed the factory and pulled out, or at least went public with their side of the story.

That's called fraud and to conflate it with poor Hondurans, etc., seeking sanctuary - seeking employment and coming on their own, is just apples and oranges. It (appears) these workers were brought into the US by Hyundai and have been employed under false pretenses. Maybe getting the worker visas was time consuming and cumbersome and the company tried a work-around. Maybe they were in the process of applying for the correct type of visa? We don't have all the facts - but it's still illegal for people to work in the US having merely a tourist visa.

As “US manufacturing jobs”.

...and an expectation that they'd hire 8500 workers.

Seems like more than the few hundred arrested.

...Undocumented immigrants in Georgia play a significant role in the state's economy, contributing approximately $1.8 billion annually. They make up about 16% of Georgia's labor force, which is nearly 1 million workers. This group includes a diverse range of individuals, with many working in essential sectors such as agriculture, construction, and hospitality.

They are part of a larger immigrant population that includes about 100,000 working in STEM-related jobs and 555,000 in total, with 26% of STEM degree holders being immigrants. Additionally, undocumented immigrants contribute $224 million in state and local taxes each year.

https://www.uscisguide.com/state-regulations-and-laws/undocumented-illegal-immigrants-in-georgia/

It's intended for tourists and other people who will only stay for a short - i.e., 3 months or less - time, and it's reciprocal with a number of countries. I've travelled to the UK and Japan on it in order to visit my company's offices or customers: I was technically working, but I was paid in my home country. And since I worked for an international company, we had people from overseas come here for a week or three at a time under the same program.

I don't think we've been given enough knowledge about the status of the Korean workers, and I don't trust anything Noem or her goons say.

The scenario you describe seems kind of shady, but may have been the unofficial workaround to avoid delays and red tape in previous administrations, but not this one.

...

Trump team 'pissed off' with Kemp over candidate pick in Georgia's Senate GOP primary battle
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-team-pissed-off-kemp-over-candidate-pick-georgias-senate-gop-primary-battle?msockid=19c9661de72e6d54127b7055e6a56cb7

...so not dangerous criminals, but workers helping Georgia's economy.

Who's going to fill those jobs? Obviously Georgia's good old boys are just getting into hunting season and don't like jobs or workers.

The Associated Press @AP 2h
BREAKING: South Korea says it has reached a deal with the U.S. on the release of South Korean workers detained at a Hyundai plant in Georgia.

https://apnews.com/article/us-south-korea-ice-raid-georgia-hyundai-ee8781d965c74a5ee18525ce87959ba4

Scott Lincicome @scottlincicome 13h
Amazing* how quickly US immigration enforcement policy went from "we must protect the innocent victims of MS-13 violence" to "we will chain & perp-walk Korean engineers with the wrong paperwork"

*Unsurprising

The fox is investigating the henhouse.

...they're trying to make it appear they're complying to avoid more abuse.

They aren't the 'fox' here, they're a foreign business trying to operate in what was, just a year ago, a friendly environment for them.

I'm certain they're well accustomed to dealing with dictatorial and autocratic regimes in conducting their business elsewhere, but this used to be a nation and government that respected commerce, and didn't have a president who treated workers and economic opportunity like it was their personal asset.

Maybe they should just fold up and leave this ignorant nation to fester in it's own swampy avarice and racism.

Sadly.

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