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PeaceWave

(2,139 posts)
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 02:51 AM Sep 8

40 years ago, through the lens of John Hughes, I fell in love with the now embattled city of Chicago...

For a generation of kids hitting their teens in the 1980's, there was one film director who towered above all others. John Hughes was writing and directing the films that hit closest to our hearts. Sixteen Candles, The Breakfast Club, Ferris Bueller's Day Off and many other Hughes films were by no means perfect. But, however imperfect, they belonged to our generation. And, we needed them. We'd grown up in a world threatened by the insanity of nuclear annihilation and we needed a fucking break from it - even if only for 90 or 120 minutes on a Saturday afternoon at the theater in the mall. In this way, John Hughes took us all to one foreign land, over and over again. Chicago.

Hughes adored Chicago. Building on the success of the Chicago set Risky Business (a film he did not write or direct), Hughes set seven films - including the aforementioned Sixteen Candles, The Breakfast Club and Ferris Bueller's Day Off - in the city and its surrounding suburbs. All were box office hits fueled by teenage audiences. And, in this way, Chicago - not Los Angeles, not New York - became the mecca for an entire teen generation's imagination. Chicago was complicated and interesting and fun and hip. It was the home of Edward Hopper's Nighthawks and George Seurat’s A Sunday on La Grande Jatte and so much more. Feelings spanning the breadth of moving you to tears to moving you to fall in love. And, as kids not yet adults, we were quickly learning that life would be just such a wild ride. Not surprisingly, many of us would later hang on our dormitory walls prints of the art Hughes had introduced us to through film.

All of this is to say that, having fallen in love with you Chicago so many years ago, we can never forget you. Though a dictator now bangs at your city gates, the spirit that imbues your people can never be defeated. And, if John Hughes were alive today, I am sure he would say that Chicago, of all cities in this country, is capable - if need be - of taking a stand, of defending itself and not sitting on its ass as the events that affect it unfold to determine the course of its citizens' lives.





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40 years ago, through the lens of John Hughes, I fell in love with the now embattled city of Chicago... (Original Post) PeaceWave Sep 8 OP
Ferris, Fast Times and Breakfast Club. 3Hotdogs Sep 8 #1
The great chronicler of the north suburbs Prairie Gates Sep 8 #2
imagine Chicago without Black people WhiskeyGrinder Sep 8 #7
Now, now, what would Weird Science be without the trip to the exotic jazz club Prairie Gates Sep 8 #8
easy there tiger WhiskeyGrinder Sep 8 #3
Loved so many of those movies Johnny2X2X Sep 8 #4
"But even that movie, John Hughes couldn't resist having Bender trying to grope Claire's crotch when he was hiding under WhiskeyGrinder Sep 8 #6
His films generally have had broad appeal even today, as they should. BannonsLiver Sep 8 #5

Prairie Gates

(6,314 posts)
8. Now, now, what would Weird Science be without the trip to the exotic jazz club
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 10:18 AM
Sep 8

And you'd never get the hardened black guy - now working the suburban teen party as a bartender somehow - engaging in fun banter with a young Robert Downey Junior as suburban cool kid:

RD Jr. (haughty): I'll take the whole bottle straight up.
Black bartender: How bout I stick the whole bottle straight up yo ass?
RD Jr. (chastened, grammatical): On the rocks is fine.

Hilarious stuff!

Chicago is, for Hughes, the vaguely threatening place where the kids go for day-trips, restricted to the North Side and maybe the Loop if at all possible. If they go south of Roosevelt at all, it's always in an atmosphere of fear and threat. All of which is to say that Hughes understood the north suburbs very well indeed.

Johnny2X2X

(23,433 posts)
4. Loved so many of those movies
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 09:54 AM
Sep 8

I was a teenager in the 80s and became an adult at the end of them. But as I got older I realized some of them normalized sexual assault.

16 Candles flat out has rape in it when Anthony Michael Hall's character has his way with a passed out prom queen in the backseat of Jake's dad's Rolls Royce. Fast Times has a scene with a 20 something dude having sex with a 16 year old high school girl at a park. Even Ferris Bueller's Day Off has Cameron pretending he's catatonic to see Ferris's girlfriend partially clothed.

I saw those movies at a really impressionable time in my life. I remember thinking, "oh, so when a girl gets drunk, guys take advantage of her, that's what's normal." Thankfully I had strong women in my life so that never really took root with me, but I remember there being a general attitude like that in the area I lived in. And you would hear about things like that all the time, some girl getting drunk at a party and being had sex with. It almost seemed like the goal for some guys when it came to underaged drinking. "Let's party, let's get drunk, let's get naked..."

Not that John Hughes was the main culprit, there were dozens of coming of age comedies back then that normalized drunken sex, date rape, voyeurism, and statutory rape. And maybe it was just a reflection of society at the time, but I do know that many of these movies implanted negative ideas about sex into my still developing hormone charged teenaged boy brain. And they sure seemed like they had an even bigger effect on a lot of other boys.

Breakfast Club was a great film, that really captured high school life in the 80s. How cliquey it was and how clueless most parents were about what their kids were dealing with. But even that movie, John Hughes couldn't resist having Bender trying to grope Claire's crotch when he was hiding under the table. Like what was the point of that scene?

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,721 posts)
6. "But even that movie, John Hughes couldn't resist having Bender trying to grope Claire's crotch when he was hiding under
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 10:07 AM
Sep 8
the table. Like what was the point of that scene?”


Hughes was a little odd about Ringwald and considered her his “muse,” something she never asked for. He wrote Sixteen Candles after seeing her headshot at 15 — which is quite the lens to consider the movie critically.

BannonsLiver

(19,645 posts)
5. His films generally have had broad appeal even today, as they should.
Mon Sep 8, 2025, 10:02 AM
Sep 8

The attempts to negatively critique them through the lens of today’s even more fucked up social mores, is just added, unnecessary fodder for the “why we lose” file.

Oh noes! There were undergarments and teenage drinking! 🙄

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