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riversedge

(77,895 posts) Tue Sep 9, 2025, 09:43 AM Sep 9

Trump's Press Secretary, Karoling Leavitt, is having another Hissyfit!!...

Karoline Leavitt @PressSec
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The latest piece published by the Wall Street Journal PROVES this entire
“Birthday Card” story is false.

As I have said all along, it’s very clear President Trump did not draw this picture,
and he did not sign it.

President Trump’s legal team will continue to aggressively pursue litigation.

Furthermore, the “reporter” @joe_palazzolo who wrote this hatchet job reached out for comment at the EXACT same minute he published his story giving us no time to respond.

This is FAKE NEWS to perpetuate the Democrat Epstein Hoax!

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Trump's Press Secretary, Karoling Leavitt, is having another Hissyfit!!... (Original Post) riversedge Sep 9 OP

Bearing False Witness again Karo? BoRaGard Sep 9 #1

What a fine, good Christian she is. Biophilic Sep 9 #2

Somewhere, Muhammad Saeed Al-Sahhaf is saying to himself, Ocelot II Sep 9 #3

She's an idiot just like the rest of Trump's team. OLDMDDEM Sep 9 #4

What is the theory they hang tRump's hat on that WSJ "proves this story is false"? Bernardo de La Paz Sep 9 #5

Say-so? EYESORE 9001 Sep 9 #7

You got me. Maybe it's that Trump is such a decent, upstanding Christian man Ocelot II Sep 9 #8

Thx, heard about that, didn't know it was in the WSJ. maga has a different stupid theory now Bernardo de La Paz Sep 9 #12

#BaghdadBarbie going viral BoRaGard Sep 9 #15

Okay, Karoline, did Donald Trump draw and sign the picture before he was president, when he was not yet president? Efilroft Sul Sep 9 #6

She can go fuck right off. Celerity Sep 9 #9

This is nuts -- the birthday book was compiled in 2003 allegorical oracle Sep 9 #10

If this sketch was done by ANY democrat vapor2 Sep 9 #11

Denial ain't a river in Egypt, KKKaroline! ProudMNDemocrat Sep 9 #13

All I hear anymore is like an adult talking in a Peanuts cartoon. Hugin Sep 9 #14

She's spinnin' like a top. Trump winds her up, and off she goes! RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Sep 9 #16

That's Karolyin' Leavitt to you. GoCubsGo Sep 9 #17

MaddowBlog-Why the White House's unpersuasive pitch on the 'birthday book' seems so familiar LetMyPeopleVote Sep 9 #18

MaddowBlog-Pressed on weak U.S. job growth, the White House line comes up far short LetMyPeopleVote Sep 10 #19

BoRaGard

(7,586 posts)

1. Bearing False Witness again Karo?

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 09:46 AM

Sep 9

Free Clue for repube-style christians: Eternal Damnation sucks.

Biophilic

(6,081 posts)

2. What a fine, good Christian she is.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 09:53 AM

Sep 9

Ocelot II

(127,312 posts)

3. Somewhere, Muhammad Saeed Al-Sahhaf is saying to himself,

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:05 AM

Sep 9

"Damn, she's good! I was never able to lie with such absolute indignation; I was just trying not to be executed. She really believes that shit!"

OLDMDDEM

(2,750 posts)

4. She's an idiot just like the rest of Trump's team.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:08 AM

Sep 9

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,641 posts)

5. What is the theory they hang tRump's hat on that WSJ "proves this story is false"?

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:16 AM

Sep 9

EYESORE 9001

(29,056 posts)

7. Say-so?

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:28 AM

Sep 9

Pretty flimsy.

Ocelot II

(127,312 posts)

8. You got me. Maybe it's that Trump is such a decent, upstanding Christian man

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #5)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:30 AM

Sep 9

that he couldn't possibly have written such a nasty, innuendo-filled note, let alone draw a naked headless armless female body, since Donald Trump is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.

(Excuse me for a second. There, I feel better now.)

I think they are trying to compare his full signature with the signature on the card: "See, it's different!" Of course it's different, the signature on the card is just his first name. But numerous other examples of his signature of his first name alone magically appeared on the Internets, and of course they're identical. Baghdad Barbie can't see that, obvious as it is, through all the egg she has on her face. Indeed, a whole omelet.

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,641 posts)

12. Thx, heard about that, didn't know it was in the WSJ. maga has a different stupid theory now

Reply to Ocelot II (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:49 AM

Sep 9

Yesterday I peeked at the FReak site and they were pushing the idea that somehow the letter was supposed to be type by both of them, mailed back and forth unfolded, each adding a line and lining the paper up perfectly each time for each response, on a typewriter that matched. Of course that is impossible / ridiculous, but only they proposed that straw man so they could knock it down as a way to shout "faked".

I went back to their thread and here's an example:

So we are supposed to believe that 2 billionaires in 2003, 8 years after Windows 95, sat at the same typewriter and typed messages back and forth to eachother?
Or are we supposed to believe they sent an unfolded sheet of paper back and forth to each other and lined it up perfectly in their own typewriter each time horizontally and vertically, and the typewriters match?
I call Bullshit.
29 posted on 2025-09-08, by Rad_J

BoRaGard

(7,586 posts)

15. #BaghdadBarbie going viral

Reply to Ocelot II (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:19 AM

Sep 9

not really. her lies are so common no one expects otherwise of her

she is the GOP's official BEARER OF FALSE WITNESS

Efilroft Sul

(4,178 posts)

6. Okay, Karoline, did Donald Trump draw and sign the picture before he was president, when he was not yet president?

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:22 AM

Sep 9

Because that's really the spin tactic you're taking.

Celerity

(52,090 posts)

9. She can go fuck right off.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:41 AM

Sep 9

allegorical oracle

(5,742 posts)

10. This is nuts -- the birthday book was compiled in 2003

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:47 AM

Sep 9

"The 238-page birthday book is a collection of testimonials, recollections and tributes from Epstein’s friends and acquaintances compiled for him in 2003." -- Story by Matt Viser, Washington Post, 9/9/25

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/for-trump-latest-epstein-disclosures-bring-continued-political-pain/ar-AA1MbPMR

Nobody in that year knew that Epstein would be apprehended on sex trafficking charges and would die in prison. No one knew djt would ever be POTUS. The birthday book has apparently been in custody of Epstein estate associates since his death in 2019. Maxwell, who assembled the book, has been in custody since her 2020 trial.

So who would (or could) bother to fake djt's letter in the intervening five years?

(But djt will probably blame the Biden Admin.)

vapor2

(3,115 posts)

11. If this sketch was done by ANY democrat

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:49 AM

Sep 9

whore Leavitt and republicans would lose their minds

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,254 posts)

13. Denial ain't a river in Egypt, KKKaroline!

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:50 AM

Sep 9

The PROOF is in the signature and she knows it. The act is getting stale.

Hugin

(36,883 posts)

14. All I hear anymore is like an adult talking in a Peanuts cartoon.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:00 AM

Sep 9

“Whah wuh wah whoo whah whah!”

That’s pretty much true for most of MSM as well.

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(1,132 posts)

16. She's spinnin' like a top. Trump winds her up, and off she goes!

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:30 AM

Sep 9

GoCubsGo

(34,344 posts)

17. That's Karolyin' Leavitt to you.

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:38 AM

Sep 9

I sure hope this creature doesn't breed. I'd hate to be the child of a woman who lies incessantly in defense of a pedophile.

LetMyPeopleVote

(170,040 posts)

18. MaddowBlog-Why the White House's unpersuasive pitch on the 'birthday book' seems so familiar

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:53 PM

Sep 9

Republicans had to choose: acknowledge the letter as legitimate or insist that a Trump-signed document wasn’t actually a Trump-signed document.

Thereâ€™s an approach to reality that says a Trump-signed document isnâ€™t actually a Trump-signed document.

Itâ€™s the same approach that says job numbers are fake. And polls are fake. And election results are fake. And science is fake. And evidence of crimes is fake. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-09-09T13:13:45.110Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/white-house-jeffrey-epstein-birthday-book-donald-trump-rcna230024

Eight weeks later, the story took a rather dramatic turn. My MSNBC colleague Erum Salam reported on the new batch of material from the Epstein estate released by Democrats on the U.S. House Oversight Committee — including the contents of the so-called “birthday book.” From the report:

A copy of the book submitted to Congress (which was not reviewed by MSNBC) included a typed message, inside the outline of a woman’s torso, that read, in part, ‘A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret.’ At the bottom of the message is a signature that appears to be Donald Trump’s.

The image looks like the one the Journal described in July.

BREAKING: House Oversight Committee Dems posted this photo of what appears to be Trump's birthday note to Epstein.

Trump previously denied the note and drawing's existence. MSNBC has not independently verified the drawing. The WH has denied the signature belongs to the president.
— MSNBC (@msnbc.com) 2025-09-08T20:02:54.216Z

......White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt claimed that it’s “very clear” that Trump didn’t draw the figure or sign the letter. Other White House officials pushed the same line, and true to form, several congressional Republicans soon followed, echoing the new party line.

At face value, the pushback was — and is — difficult to take seriously. The signature on the letter resembles other documents from that era that Trump signed.

ThAtâ€™a nOt TrUmPâ€™s SiGnAtUrE www.wsj.com/us-news/law/...
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-09-08T21:38:29.142Z

For that matter, it’s difficult to imagine how the document in question could’ve been fabricated in the first place. As CNN’s Aaron Blake summarized, “The key fact here is that this comes from Epstein’s estate. In other words, for this letter to have been fake, someone would have had to plant it in Epstein’s possessions a long time ago, somehow.”.......

There’s a quote that’s often attributed to political theorist Hannah Arendt: “This constant lying is not aimed at making the people believe a lie, but at ensuring that no one believes anything anymore.” As it happens, Arendt didn’t actually say this (at least not exactly), but the quote resonates because of its salience:

Trump obviously tries to get people to believe lies all the time, but nearly as often, the president and his allies try to get people to give up on the idea that facts exist. With too many Americans, these tactics are effective, which helps explain why they’ve become so common.

LetMyPeopleVote

(170,040 posts)

19. MaddowBlog-Pressed on weak U.S. job growth, the White House line comes up far short

Reply to riversedge (Original post)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:31 PM

Sep 10

When should the public expect the job numbers to improve? White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt tried to answer. It didn’t go well.

It was a real treat to be able to talk with @gregsargent.bsky.social on his terrific podcast, and I hope folks will check out this latest installment.
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-09-10T12:23:15.300Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/pressed-weak-us-job-growth-white-house-line-comes-far-short-rcna230325

For Americans concerned about the U.S. job market, it’s become increasingly difficult to be optimistic. Indeed, in the first year of Donald Trump’s second term, job growth has slowed to levels unseen since the Great Recession.

Then this week the Labor Department released new data that made matters just a bit worse. The New York Times reported:

The U.S. economy probably added close to a million fewer jobs in 2024 and early 2025 than previously reported, the latest sign that the labor market, until recently a bright spot in the economy, may be weaker than it initially appeared. The revised data was released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics as part of a longstanding annual process known as benchmarking.

....So a reporter asked White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt a reasonable question: When should the public expect the job numbers to improve?

REPORTER: When can we expect the jobs numbers to increase?

LEAVITT: First, we need accurate numbers. We need truthful and honest data.
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com) 2025-09-09T17:53:16.729Z

“Well, first, we need accurate numbers,” Leavitt replied. “We need truthful and honest data, which is why the president took the monumental step to try and appoint and confirm new leadership at the BLS so we can have data that we can actually rely on. And that’s what the president is doing, and we hope that his nominee will soon be confirmed.”

First, we already have honest economic data. Republicans might not like economic statistics, but that doesn’t make them dishonest,

Second, Trump’s decision to fire the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics because he was frustrated by the failures of his own economic agenda was many things, but “monumental” isn’t the first adjective that comes to mind.

Third, the idea that E.J. Antoni, the chief economist at the Heritage Foundation, can be counted on to oversee the production of reliable employment data is absurd given everything we’ve learned about Antoni and his unfortunate record.....

That creates a convenient escape for the president and his team for the foreseeable future: The more Trump struggles to deliver, the more Americans are supposed to assume the evidence is untrustworthy. It’s a fundamentally unserious approach to governing, but it’s certainly easier than admitting that Trump’s bad ideas aren’t working.

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