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Chasstev365

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The right wing wet dreams are coming true Walleye Sep 9 #1
Some courts are trying to protect people from abuses. Some are throwing distractions to the magas Attilatheblond Sep 9 #12
The problem is Trump ignores and flouts all Lower Court rulings because he's got SCOTUS in his back pocket Walleye Sep 9 #16
of course... markie Sep 9 #2
To be clear, that's Republican Senator Eric Schmitt, not just any random NatC muriel_volestrangler Sep 9 #5
By far, the majority of immigrants from Europe came here for economic reasons, not religious ones. Lonestarblue Sep 9 #24
They didn't "settle", they invaded, conquered, and occupied. SharonAnn Sep 10 #50
And yet.. it never did belong to us.. and never will. ananda Sep 9 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Miami Blue Sep 9 #3
Yep! Stop and frisk gone national... Wounded Bear Sep 9 #4
It's worse than stop and frisk AdamGG Sep 9 #29
Yeah, moving into Nacht und Nebel territory...nt Wounded Bear Sep 9 #30
You forgot....women! Hope22 Sep 9 #6
Thanks. I will edit! Chasstev365 Sep 9 #8
Just thinking that. The women who ran the households and built the families. That's who we have to thank Walleye Sep 9 #17
They have already been doing it. They have all of the information, collected by race. twodogsbarking Sep 9 #7
can we profile MAGA? Puppyjive Sep 9 #9
Nope, red hats are symbol of the scared cows. republianmushroom Sep 9 #22
It's been the reality of black folk BumRushDaShow Sep 9 #10
This JustAnotherGen Sep 9 #26
if women, poc. or , one iota different they come after you. AllaN01Bear Sep 9 #11
They already harassed Native Americans KT2000 Sep 9 #13
Yes, many have "brought up" this garbage - Nigrum Cattus Sep 9 #14
Everyone needs to carry proof of US citizenship at all times FakeNoose Sep 9 #15
I have photos of all those, BidenRocks Sep 9 #44
Pool: How long until Sotomayor is ICEd? Bobstandard Sep 9 #18
Ivana told the world that Donald kept a book of Hitler's speeches by his bed...He's a Fascist. Joinfortmill Sep 9 #20
And all the Democrats can say is, "Send money, 1WorldHope Sep 9 #21
Sinedo hispano, liberalgunwilltravel Sep 9 #23
Yes. Maya Wiley brought this up dead seriously on MSNBC yesterday. I can't remember what show she was on though. chowder66 Sep 9 #25
Just a reminder BaronChocula Sep 9 #27
Yes I did, yesterday and I will repost it here. Buddyzbuddy Sep 9 #28
won't stop North Coast Lawyer Sep 9 #31
Justice Sotomayor Hekate Sep 9 #32
Justice Sotomayor lets her voice be heard. yellow dahlia Sep 9 #42
And yet, no one is doing anything about it. BlueTsunami2018 Sep 9 #33
Because of the SHADOW DOCKET, they aren't documenting ANYTHING Bluetus Sep 9 #34
Yes. 9 years ago Buttoneer Sep 9 #35
I have mentioned my fears that, as a gay man, they would be coming for us sooner or later. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Sep 9 #36
It won't be long canetoad Sep 9 #37
K&R for deporting (most of) the Supreme KKKourt. usonian Sep 9 #38
i was riffing on that poem in January. barbtries Sep 9 #39
I think they are labeling protestors as violent terrorists, yellow dahlia Sep 9 #40
Yes, and more will be coming soldierant Sep 9 #41
The republicans are taking us back to 1850. madinmaryland Sep 9 #43
Gov Pretzker asked "What comes next?" in his speech yesterday. Gimpyknee Sep 9 #45
He GETS it! Thank you Governor JB Pritzker FakeNoose Sep 9 #46
He says out loud what we are thinking. thought crime Sep 9 #47
Matthew Cooke's response to yesterday's unsigned order by SCOTUS allowing racial profiling is brilliant, powerful. summer_in_TX Sep 9 #48
answer to op title: A few of us might've mentioned it. B.See Sep 10 #49
We're well past any firsts Queso Delicioso Sep 10 #51
I think it may have been mentioned, in passing, but not in bold faced caps -- as it should be RVN VET71 Sep 10 #52

Walleye

(42,513 posts)
1. The right wing wet dreams are coming true
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 09:47 AM
Sep 9

Attilatheblond

(7,283 posts)
12. Some courts are trying to protect people from abuses. Some are throwing distractions to the magas
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:47 AM
Sep 9

As the fascists' personal histories are bursting thru their media choke-holds here and there, the last line of defense is riding in to rescue them with distractions to keep the idiots distracted.

Walleye

(42,513 posts)
16. The problem is Trump ignores and flouts all Lower Court rulings because he's got SCOTUS in his back pocket
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:22 PM
Sep 9

markie

(23,640 posts)
2. of course...
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 09:53 AM
Sep 9

natcon members say it best

"The white Europeans who settled America and conquered the West “believed they were forging a nation—a homeland for themselves and their descendants,” he said. “They fought, they bled, they struggled, they died for us. They built this country for us. America, in all its glory, is their gift to us, handed down across the generations. It belongs to us...."

scary indeed!

muriel_volestrangler

(104,755 posts)
5. To be clear, that's Republican Senator Eric Schmitt, not just any random NatC
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:29 AM
Sep 9
The Continental Army soldiers dying of frostbite at Valley Forge, the Pilgrims struggling to survive in the hard winter soil of Plymouth, the pioneers striking out from Missouri for the wild and dangerous frontier, the outnumbered Kentucky settlers repelling wave after wave of Indian war band attacks from behind their stockade walls—all of them would be astonished to hear that they were only fighting for a “proposition.”

They believed they were forging a nation—a homeland for themselves and their descendants. They fought, they bled, they struggled, they died for us. They built this country for us.
...
We Americans are the sons and daughters of the Christian pilgrims that poured out from Europe’s shores to baptize a new world in their ancient faith. Our ancestors were driven here by destiny, possessed by urgent and fiery conviction, by burning belief, devoted to their cause and their God.
...
As the historian David McCullough writes, the Scots-Irish families that first settled Missouri “saw themselves as the true Americans”:

https://www.dailysignal.com/2025/09/02/schmitt-what-is-an-american/

So yeah, settling a country already inhabited by Native Americans is what he's proud of, and he thinks you need European Christian ancestry to be an American. And that it's about God, and Manifest Destiny - he defends:

'The Department of Homeland Security’s Twitter account posted an image of the famous painting “American Progress”—one of the most iconic illustrations of Manifest Destiny, depicting settlers striding outward to the frontier, with Lady Columbia watching over them from above.'

Lonestarblue

(12,927 posts)
24. By far, the majority of immigrants from Europe came here for economic reasons, not religious ones.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:02 PM
Sep 9

It’s a gross distortion to claim that only white people built this country, but it probably is not a distortion to say that only white people murdered millions of Native Americans to take their lands.

SharonAnn

(14,108 posts)
50. They didn't "settle", they invaded, conquered, and occupied.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:52 AM
Sep 10

ananda

(33,200 posts)
19. And yet.. it never did belong to us.. and never will.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:33 PM
Sep 9

That's not how the world works, even if humans act that way.

Response to Chasstev365 (Original post)

Wounded Bear

(62,981 posts)
4. Yep! Stop and frisk gone national...
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:24 AM
Sep 9

Supposedly it's not about racial profiling, they could stop anybody, but at first they only pick on those 'undesirable' dark skinned folks.

AdamGG

(1,782 posts)
29. It's worse than stop and frisk
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 02:46 PM
Sep 9

Stop and frisk let people go if they didn't have drugs or weapons. Now, they arrest you if du hast papellen nicht.

Dump has repeatedly said that he wants to go after the "home growns". The next logical step is arrests and detainment of American citizens. DOJ/FBI/Homeland Security have been staffed with people who will have no problem with pursuing this.

They're already sending people to prisons in Uganda and South Sudan who have been convicted of no crime, who have had no type of hearing or due process at all.

I guess the mainstream media has mentioned it, but the degree that this has been normalized, not just by the right wing press, but overall, is shocking. All outlets should be screaming about this 24/7; there should be masses out in the streets.

Wounded Bear

(62,981 posts)
30. Yeah, moving into Nacht und Nebel territory...nt
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 02:48 PM
Sep 9

Hope22

(4,165 posts)
6. You forgot....women!
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:38 AM
Sep 9

Chasstev365

(6,285 posts)
8. Thanks. I will edit!
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:54 AM
Sep 9

Walleye

(42,513 posts)
17. Just thinking that. The women who ran the households and built the families. That's who we have to thank
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:26 PM
Sep 9

twodogsbarking

(15,857 posts)
7. They have already been doing it. They have all of the information, collected by race.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:54 AM
Sep 9

Puppyjive

(840 posts)
9. can we profile MAGA?
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:18 AM
Sep 9

if we see the red hats, can we call someone? Sounds like Trump wants to target political enemies.

republianmushroom

(21,415 posts)
22. Nope, red hats are symbol of the scared cows.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:38 PM
Sep 9

BumRushDaShow

(160,329 posts)
10. It's been the reality of black folk
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:20 AM
Sep 9

since the day their ancestors were dragged over here 400 years ago, and every day in the current era. Statistics are published continually and no one seems to care or attempts to remedy the problem.

Newcomers are even "warned" that historically, this country has always flipped at any time to go after others, but...

That's what prompted the old Family Guy meme and its variations (from the episode "Turban Cowboy" in 2013) -

JustAnotherGen

(37,075 posts)
26. This
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:31 PM
Sep 9

It's our lived experience.

AllaN01Bear

(27,428 posts)
11. if women, poc. or , one iota different they come after you.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:28 AM
Sep 9

KT2000

(21,719 posts)
13. They already harassed Native Americans
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:04 PM
Sep 9

when they stopped the firefighters. Tribes have advised their members to carry proof of citizenship - but what will that matter when they just load people into their unmarked vans without listening to them.

These untrained, likely mentally challenged, incels have been given supreme power over all of us now.


FakeNoose

(38,680 posts)
15. Everyone needs to carry proof of US citizenship at all times
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:22 PM
Sep 9

That's the answer. I'm not an immigrant ... I'm a Caucasian middle-class woman, but I always have my US passport to show ID. I advise anyone who might be stopped, please get and carry a US passport. Don't allow it to be taken away from you.

I also have a copy of my birth certificate but I don't usually carry it with me because it's fragile.

If you have a Green Card or any other ID, use the same precaution, but also carry another form of ID such as a state driver's license or voting card.

BidenRocks

(2,222 posts)
44. I have photos of all those,
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:46 PM
Sep 9

on my phone of course.

Bobstandard

(2,020 posts)
18. Pool: How long until Sotomayor is ICEd?
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:31 PM
Sep 9

It’s only a matter of time until Sotomayor is stopped on her way to work, or at a restaurant, or out shopping, by some ICE goon who thinks/pretends she’s an illegal. He’ll get to humiliates, detain her, even incarcerate her just because of the color of her skin, eyes, or hair. The rest of the Supremes surely knew that they were setting it up.

So I’m guessing inside 30 days.

Joinfortmill

(18,954 posts)
20. Ivana told the world that Donald kept a book of Hitler's speeches by his bed...He's a Fascist.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:33 PM
Sep 9

1WorldHope

(1,601 posts)
21. And all the Democrats can say is, "Send money,
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:37 PM
Sep 9

this is unpresidented!"

23. Sinedo hispano,
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 12:40 PM
Sep 9

ciertamente me preocupa, sin embargo lo que más me preocupa es que todos los estadounidiense están riesgo!

chowder66

(11,295 posts)
25. Yes. Maya Wiley brought this up dead seriously on MSNBC yesterday. I can't remember what show she was on though.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:21 PM
Sep 9

When it was her time to respond she took a long quiet pause and came out with just this. That it will happen to other groups.
I've heard or read others stating the same thing but I can't recall where. Maybe bluesky or other MSNBC programs.

BaronChocula

(3,345 posts)
27. Just a reminder
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:54 PM
Sep 9

Racial profiling HAS been in the law enforcement toolbox with little recourse even before this decision. Cops have already realized this for years.

I know there's a cop saying in at least one city:
Q: What do you call a black man on a bike?
A: Probable cause.

I heard this over 30 years ago.

Buddyzbuddy

(1,496 posts)
28. Yes I did, yesterday and I will repost it here.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 01:54 PM
Sep 9

18. America needs to read the end of the story, very quickly.
Yesterday
This isn't just about brown people like me. It's about all obviously white males being exempt, period. Not just obvious minorities but also all women can be stopped, frisked and questioned in states with laws against abortion. Think about it.

Welcome to my world. "We asked you nicely", not to vote for him, "now youse can't leave." It's just a matter of time.
Oh, and those pesky laws about pedophelia, rich white guys, don't worry about them. Have at it, you're exempt.
Slavery, back on the books in no time.
It's a trickle now, but the flood is coming thanks to 6 King makers on the Supreme Court. That includes one black male that won't live to see what his vote has done and one white female that will get a box seat to watch what her work has done.

Stupid, stupid, stupid voters.

North Coast Lawyer

(188 posts)
31. won't stop
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 03:10 PM
Sep 9

Anyone thinks this fascism will stop with "show me your papers" is in for a very rude awakening.

Hekate

(99,480 posts)
32. Justice Sotomayor
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 03:33 PM
Sep 9
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143526476

Sotomayor Scorches Supreme Court's Racial Profiling Ruling In Blistering Dissent

Source: Huff Post
Sep 8, 2025, 03:21 PM EDT | Updated an hour ago

Justice Sonia Sotomayor issued a scathing dissent to Monday’s Supreme Court ruling authorizing immigration agents’ use of racial profiling, saying it’s “unconscionably irreconcilable” with the U.S. Constitution.

“We should not have to live in a country where the Government can seize anyone who looks Latino, speaks Spanish, and appears to work a low wage job,” Sotomayor wrote.

More at link

yellow dahlia

(3,072 posts)
42. Justice Sotomayor lets her voice be heard.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:30 PM
Sep 9

She is the real deal.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,626 posts)
33. And yet, no one is doing anything about it.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 03:35 PM
Sep 9

The kids in Napal know what they’re doing.

Our kids are busy listening to Nazi podcasts and whining because girls won’t fuck them.

This is by design.

Bluetus

(1,559 posts)
34. Because of the SHADOW DOCKET, they aren't documenting ANYTHING
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 05:59 PM
Sep 9

They are just getting in a room and deciding what they want for each case and never explaining any legal basis for any of it.

That is horrible. Dems should be actively campaigning o issues like this. The average person doesn't understand how the court works, it with some repetition, we could make the "shadow docket" think stick. That phrase already sounds like Darth Vader. We don't have to explain. Just go with , "If you give the Democrats a governing majority, we will reform the Supreme Court, with term limits, a strict code of conduct and ethics, the end of the shadow docket, and no more stolen seats."

Buttoneer

(891 posts)
35. Yes. 9 years ago
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 06:18 PM
Sep 9
https://sabrinapenayoung.medium.com/variations-on-niemoller-first-they-came-for-the-hispanics-and-latinos-and-i-did-not-speak-out-6a5cd5058e6d

First they came for the Hispanics and Latinos, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not Hispanic or Latino.

Then they came for the Muslims and the Jews, and I did not speak out —
Because I was not a Muslim or a Jew.

OldBaldy1701E

(9,077 posts)
36. I have mentioned my fears that, as a gay man, they would be coming for us sooner or later. (n/t)
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 06:39 PM
Sep 9

canetoad

(19,489 posts)
37. It won't be long
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 07:26 PM
Sep 9

Before he tries to rescind the ADA so that he can continue to openly mock disabilities.

usonian

(20,611 posts)
38. K&R for deporting (most of) the Supreme KKKourt.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 07:57 PM
Sep 9

barbtries

(30,767 posts)
39. i was riffing on that poem in January.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:09 PM
Sep 9

First they came for the scientists.

I think many of us recognize that unless we are all safe, none of us is safe. Many more do not. They think I'm white, I'm republican, I'm "christian" - ain't gonna save you.

yellow dahlia

(3,072 posts)
40. I think they are labeling protestors as violent terrorists,
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:21 PM
Sep 9

so they can "come for them".

soldierant

(8,947 posts)
41. Yes, and more will be coming
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:25 PM
Sep 9
https://roberthubbell.substack.com/p/supreme-court-authorizes-ice-to-use

I have had a bunch of write-your-Congresscritter request, and have signed and sent most of them. I expect Substack to be full of it by tomorrow.

Joyce Vance and Heather Cox Richardson did a video which is up on Preet Bharara's Substack - I'm not even a free subscriber there but was able to see it. They touched on it

madinmaryland

(65,576 posts)
43. The republicans are taking us back to 1850.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:44 PM
Sep 9

There will be bloodshed.

Gimpyknee

(633 posts)
45. Gov Pretzker asked "What comes next?" in his speech yesterday.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 09:11 PM
Sep 9

FakeNoose

(38,680 posts)
46. He GETS it! Thank you Governor JB Pritzker
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:05 PM
Sep 9

And he is a wealthy, powerful white man who is willing to speak up for those who aren't. I love the fact that Gov. Pritzker has more money and social status than Chump, and he never misses an opportunity to let him know.

thought crime

(794 posts)
47. He says out loud what we are thinking.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 10:59 PM
Sep 9

summer_in_TX

(3,834 posts)
48. Matthew Cooke's response to yesterday's unsigned order by SCOTUS allowing racial profiling is brilliant, powerful.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 11:54 PM
Sep 9

🎥 TikTok -vm.tiktok.com/ZNdbLTsTg|vm

I don't have a TikTok account, but this link played for me. I promise it's worth seeing. Makes me mighty tempted to get one!

B.See

(6,685 posts)
49. answer to op title: A few of us might've mentioned it.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 12:18 AM
Sep 10

Queso Delicioso

(96 posts)
51. We're well past any firsts
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:59 AM
Sep 10

People need to stop with the "it could happen" and realize that it IS happening.

RVN VET71

(3,023 posts)
52. I think it may have been mentioned, in passing, but not in bold faced caps -- as it should be
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:04 AM
Sep 10

Hitler, like Trump, started with a few "out groups" and, seeing how simple it was to get away with mass murdering them, he advanced his idea to encompass everyone, potentially. And he did, in fact, use his ICE troops to snatch people off the street and disappear them. (Oh, wait, did I say ICE? Of course I meant its father, the Gestapo.

Your well-taken point is that without constantly ramming home the comparison, the assault on Democracy is allowed to continue, without the vilification it requires.

The SCOTUS -- and Roberts SCOTUS is the worst in our history, the most shamefacedly partisan Court in our history. By allowing ICE to profile hispanics, these bastards -- and bastardette -- knowingly and eagerly opened the door for their favorite "president" to use his absolute power to arrest, detain, and deport or literally kill anyone he dislikes.

And this is not in any degree an exaggeration. The boa constrictor, as Shel Silverstein reminds us, starts at your feet, nibbling a bit at your toes and ankles, but it never, never stops there. It gradually moves up until it has consumed the entire body. What was the tag line of the song?
"Oh, dread, its up to my . . . ."

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