prepubescent female TORSO.

That makes the drawing exponentially worse.
No head, no limbs... no life .

Did they ever dig up Epstein island? How many bodies are buried there?

Does any one else wonder why TSF has an obsession with Hannibal Lecter?
If he had not been born rich, he would be dead or in jail and the authorities would be digging up his basement looking for bodies.

The drawing reveals Pedo-in-Chief's attitudes more than anything else.

I think anyone who ever saw it will remember it well.

It was the creepiest episode ever! That family!

Yeah, when I saw that drawing, I thought that's not a drawing of a woman's body. It's a child's body. It's a drawing of something to be used.

Objectification. Which in any form should be at the very least objectionable.

In his case, deeply disturbing. In his case all people are reduced to his playthings.

We're all just objects in his imagination. He's completely void of empathetic human emotions.

He plays Army with the Armed Forces and the National Guard, like they're plastic toys. It's not hard to imagine what he does/has done with those he has had direct face-to-face power over and who are less equipped to resist.

It's all part of his psychopathic sickness.

We should all be terrified.

looked "off" to me and I couldn't quantify it. Given his apparent desire to have women in his life to be seen as "well endowed," why was his drawing so unprovocative? Young girls is a fitting explanation.

From the earlier descriptions, I expected it to be more vivid -- a complete thing, hair, eyes, a smile, etc

This just gets creepier the more one looks at it.

And now that this objectification has been brought to my awareness, I have seen many such drawings in public bathroom stalls over the years. Some had complete bodies represented, but many had only the "parts of interest," so to speak. However, thinking back, all of these bathroom drawings depicted large breasts, of an idealized mature woman.

I doubt that most of these bathroom "artists" were serial killers and rapists in real life. I hope that they were just expressing their fantasies. In Trump's case, we know for certain that he was (and presumably still is) a sexual predator and convicted rapist, which makes this particular drawing so chilling. These were two guys deeply involved in sex trafficking, especially focusing on very young girls for the pleasure of very important people all over the world.

Trump has no filters. Everything he says and does is a confession.

drew this. "He's not an artist", and signature either fake or autopen. For pete's sake, that is not an "artistic " drawing. And the signature is exactly like other of trumps signatures, same time period. I guess those reasons are enough, though, for almost all republicans. Hard to believe these are the people controlling America.

It’s a “cartoon”. Of the only things he sees of “value” in anything female. It’s disgusting.

He’s one of those. The males who see women as mere body parts to be used and toyed with.

before I saw the breasts and well before the significance of the placement of the signature registered. It screams his objectification of women. Selfish. Greedy. Inhumane.

The sheer scope of the cover-up just broadened in my mind.

that some victims never made it off the island. Or boarded a plane and went missing before landing.

He was paid for a "depreciated" prepubescent girl. Jesus Christ! Trafficking much?

As for buried bodies on Epstein's island -- - I hadn't thought of it, but I hope that the exhumations begin as soon as the shackles of fascism are thrown off our Government.

Rec

So true here.

and found it disturbing in the same way. Thank you for articulating tbis so well.

The breasts are much higher than a mature woman would carry them. And most disturbing to me...no arms. No open space where you'd expect arms..

Small breasts - tick
Wide hips - cross
Public hair - cross

Not a "prepubescent female body"

Those things would mean the figure is pubescent. Which doesn't excuse it because that would still put the figure in early adolescence, way too young for a 19-year-old, much less a 50-year-old.

...as of to imply, "Why would someone be typing 'pubic' this often??"

of a tasteless nickname for a supermarket chain in florida.

Republicans had to choose: acknowledge the letter as legitimate or insist that a Trump-signed document wasn’t actually a Trump-signed document.

There’s an approach to reality that says a Trump-signed document isn’t actually a Trump-signed document.

It’s the same approach that says job numbers are fake. And polls are fake. And election results are fake. And science is fake. And evidence of crimes is fake. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-09-09T13:13:45.110Z

Every time I get the opportunity, I point out how important it is to make a distinction between mis- and dis-information.

It's easy to create misinformation. We do it all the time. Inadvertently. When we're mistaken about facts. Innocently. When we get bad, misleading information. Maliciously. When we lie.

But disinformation, the insidious deliberate sharing of misinformation when you know it to be false or bad information, is propaganda designed to decieve, mislead and confuse.

This creates the atmosphere that nothing and no one can be trusted.

It is destabilizing in many ways. Deliberately.

Worst of all, it creates separation between individuals and groups of people, isolates us and causes fractures in the very fabric of society.

Thanks for sharing this. ❤️

That’s what I thought of too when I saw this drawing….

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I'm pissed at the left for sensationalizing the drawing. And stretching to get the location of the signature sensationalistic. I like to think we're better than that, but we're often not.

And no, it's much too hefty to be an outline of a young person.

I started around 9 or 10 but others start around 12 or 13. I'm confused about why you're focused on the shape of the drawing and not the substance.

Remember, we're talking about the sitting president of the United States here. He already has several accusations of sexual assault.

Do we have standards anymore or don't we?

I went back to look at it and I see no indication of what I would consider as "hefty."
I was a figure painter and I know that figure is no way hefty - I taught life drawing as well so I've seen a good number of adult body types.

The only thing I can say that may be considered is that Trump never had a sense of proportion.

The fascist pig knows it is a sketch of a teenager. Jeffrey knew it was a sketch of a teenager. His signature is him grabbing the teenager by her p****. The fascist pig did not want this drawing released because it depicted a teenager. The fascist pig knows that it being a teenager makes him look very very guilty.

he talked about Ivanka when she was younger, let alone how he acted around her and the pictures of them....I mean, the whole business gives me THE ICK!!!

And enigma is a an anagram for "gamine". I do not think that is an accident.

From Wikipedia:
"The gamine is a popular archetype of a slim, often boyish, elegant young woman who is described as mischievous or teasing, popularized in film and fashion from the turn of the 20th century through to the 1950s. The word gamine is a French word, the feminine form of gamin, originally meaning urchin, waif or playful, naughty child."

Absolutely chilling. I have to wonder where he learned it.

But he is such a loser than when he learns a "sophisticated" word or concept, he has to try and throw it around...so he can think he's cool.

Underneath all the aggression and attacks and violence and destruction and bravado is a loser.

I’m not going to give that hack any credit regarding his artistic skills to discern the subtle differences between a 13-year old girl’s body versus an adult woman’s body.

Don’t read anything more into that sketch, other than that both he and Epstein like gazing at the female figure.

ain’t got a bit of artistic bone in his body. And people are trying to read into it his ability to sketch out a young girl’s form that differentiates from a generic female form? That’s reading tea-leaves level of introducing one’s own preconceived notions into schlock “art”.

I mean, Picasso can whip out a quick sketch of an outline of a female form and we can all rightly argue whether that female form is of an 18-year old or a 28-year old. That’s because it’s by Picasso and he would be able to make distinguishing differences for the two ages.

To claim that Trump meant to sketch out a young girl gives that clod far too much credit for his drawing skills.

Let’s just say his drawing skills are about as artistic as his dancing skills.

with his sick twisted brain.

don’t ascribe to malice when mere incompetence suffices.

And good catch.

a good reason to not vote for him in future.

For the rest of us, t's another reason to want to see him out of the Oval Office.

the flight logs/records to Epstein's Island.

PPH for short.

My new nickname for Hair Hitler