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no_hypocrisy
(53,121 posts)OLDMDDEM
(2,750 posts)bluestarone
(20,342 posts)Could be interesting when his asshole religious wife discovers this.
But why not? The RW justices are just as corrupt.
chicoescuela
(2,327 posts)vapor2
(3,115 posts)quakerboy
(14,551 posts)The senators also likely in the list?
The congresspersons also likely in the list?
Wounded Bear
(63,007 posts)Could be a couple more, I guess. Pedophiles don't tend to wear badges to announce their proclivities in private.
usonian
(20,685 posts)
"Privilege has its privileges."
markie
(23,643 posts)the problem is big money is behind all of this and the SCOTUS is protecting big money.... I don't care who goes down in this search... name, political affiliation, status,.... whatever... burn it all down
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,883 posts)BoRaGard
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bamagal62
(4,171 posts)Bettie
(18,880 posts)the more likely they are to be a sexual predator.
At least in my experience. The ones whose lives revolve around their religiosity, well, they usually have some huge skeletons lurking in those closets.
Cough....Mike Johnson...cough.
And the louder they pontificate on the sins of immorality
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Peace ☮️
Lurker Deluxe
(1,075 posts)Some speeches ... right?
my Bible tells me that if we train a child in the way he should go, when he is old he will not turn from it. So I think faith and guidance can help fortify a young woman's sense of self, a young man's sense of responsibility, and a sense of reverence that all young people should have for the act of sexual intimacy.
secularists are wrong when they ask believers to leave their religion at the door before entering into the public square, the majority of great reformers in American history were not only motivated by faith, but repeatedly used religious language to argue for their cause. So to say that men and women should not inject their "personal morality" into public policy debates is a practical absurdity. Our law is by definition a codification of morality, much of it grounded in the Judeo-Christian tradition.
Solomon
(12,607 posts)Yes, there are moral religious people, but there are also a whole lot of people who use religion as an excuse to do terrible things because they are "forgiven" for everything they have ever done or will do.
So, they can claim morality while doing Epstein/Trump style things. Look at the Evangelicals who swear that Trump is a "godly man".
hamsterjill
(16,558 posts)I think it's three, but that's just my opinion. Will we ever know? That's my worry.
Mblaze
(771 posts)AKA - Long Dong Silver
IronLionZion
(49,921 posts)
evolves
(5,640 posts)usually have something to hide .
Sogo
(6,631 posts)We're on the same page....
uponit7771
(93,251 posts)erronis
(21,346 posts)A very "Soviet" type of operation, with obvious continuation under the putin regime.
The higher the ranking/importance of the John, the better.
Now, how does Amy Coney Barrett "fit in"?
Hekate
(99,502 posts)
to and from DC and New York were to capture names for his list. Hillary showed up early as someone who had accepted a seat on a private plane to DC and from photos, you can see them at some of the same NY galas. (I remember just praying, Please God please dont let Bill be on the flight manifest for the island )
Ghislaine was a socialite Epstein had the social skills. Everybody whos anybody and has money goes to those galas. Ill bet theres lots of photos of those two with the high and mighty raising money for the Museum and Opera and whatnot.
So yes, I figured this for a very Soviet-style operation. Some men he hooked onto his island and that lifestyle, and some men and women he just schmoozed with and offered friendly favors to, like a ride on his jet for business in big cities. All names in his book. All in his web of influence to some degree.
bluescribbler
(2,391 posts)Probably Thomas, too.
BonnieJW
(3,020 posts)Martin68
(26,494 posts)BTW, I rather doubt there is an actual "list." Nevertheless, there should be plenty of ways to determine the identities of Epstein's "guests", "customers", and "friends.
Hekate
(99,502 posts)Queso Delicioso
(103 posts)They're odious enough on their own not to need any kompromat.
Hekate
(99,502 posts)Pardon me while my body revolts
AverageOldGuy
(2,976 posts)Thomas: 100%
Beer Bong Kavanaugh: 90%
Alito: 50%
Rest of them zero.
AllyCat
(18,231 posts)onenote
(45,677 posts)Epstein's first arrest came in 2006. Kavanaugh didn't become a SCOTUS justice until 2018.
The Madcap
(1,472 posts)Not sure about Kavanaugh. He might have been too young and obscure at the time. But there are older folk who would have been more prominent then...just saying.
EdmondDantes_
(928 posts)The only one with a clear potential link is Samuel Alito. Acosta who gave Epstein the sweetheart deal was a former clerk for Alito. But it's hard for me to make that jump given it's sadly very common for sex predators to get very light sentences. See Brock Turner or that guy from BYU who started abusing a 5 year old, etc.
There is someone named John Roberts on the Epstein flight log, but it's a common name and there's no other public connection.
Ponietz
(4,037 posts)I wish a Senator would make the connection and publicly ask JR to eliminate himself from the association. Its time for confrontation.
EdmondDantes_
(928 posts)There's nothing actually connecting SC John Roberts and Epstein and it's a pretty common name, plus there's no evidence that the person in question was anything other than a passenger somewhere, not even to Epstein's island.
MLWR
(547 posts)"he began his career as a law clerk working under Judge Ken Starr." That would be THE Ken Starr. "Kavanaugh had urged Starr to ask Clinton sexually graphic questions,[52][53] and described Clinton as being involved in "a conspiracy to obstruct justice", having "disgraced his office" and "lied to the American people".[54][55] The report provided extensive and explicit descriptions of each of Clinton's sexual encounters with Lewinsky, a level of detail the authors called "essential" to the case against Clinton."
snip
"In December 2000, Kavanaugh joined the legal team of George W. Bush, which was trying to stop the ballot recount in Florida"
-- from Wikipedia.
He's had such a sterling career.
BlueKentuckyGirl
(489 posts)Just read the NYT article about how JP Morgan enabled Epstein. Towards the end of the article, it mentions that Starr represented Epstein sometime around 2006 when JP Morgan was thinking about cutting its ties with Epstein over the whole sex trafficking allegations. So, a loose connection of Kavanaugh to Epstein, but still a connection.
The Madcap
(1,472 posts)He would have been in his forties in the early 2000's. I'm just a couple of years older, but he's held his age better.
I guess vodka and whiskey are great preservatives...
Im betting more than one.
Submariner
(13,132 posts)are on the list as gal pals at Epstein Island, and at a Walmart parking lot near you.
sagetea
(1,523 posts)I have talked to women/girls who were trafficked. I will never forget this one woman, who at the time was a teenager, would sit under a judges desk, and 'play' with him and nobody knew. She said this to me, totally deadpan. Maybe he exaggerated, maybe not. But, this stayed with me.
Every time, I think I have heard the worse of the worst, there is always something even worse. Is it any wonder that women would rather meet a bear in the woods?
sage
rainy
(6,300 posts)a lot is sense because that would explain all their bad decisions!!!
With this crowd, suspect the worst and youre quite likely to be right.
MiHale
(12,165 posts)DemMedic
(501 posts)AllyCat
(18,231 posts)He certainly has the type. Roberts...someone got to Roberts so I wouldn't doubt it at all. Also wonder about spouses...in one particular instance. The more religious and restrictive, the more I would suspect someone on that list.
Blues Heron
(7,603 posts)Festivito
(13,790 posts)It took some powerful outsiders to coverup Epstein's death.
Pubic hair Coke kidder likes Dick's in an unsporting manner.
The late scab of Originalism liked them older.
The I like beer contestant drinks enough that any age looks good around 2am.
The probability chart holds a Textualist a slight taker of advantage over Beer Bong Boi.
sop
(16,121 posts)I suspect many of the incompetent and corrupt people Trump nominated to positions of power were already compromised by some unreported scandal from their past, making them easier to manipulate and control.
snowybirdie
(6,343 posts)Justice Kennedy retired early suddenly? No illness or obvious reasons. the was a swing vote many times. His son was a trump banker as well. Trump was able to appoint Kavanaugh after this, A reliable right vote.
Ponietz
(4,037 posts)Ritabert
(1,658 posts)SheltieLover
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maxsolomon
(37,383 posts)nt
Mr.Bee
(1,240 posts)BlueKentuckyGirl
(489 posts)I'm thinking members of the Heritage Foundation. People like Leonard Leo or maybe Harlan Crowe.
Hassler
(4,537 posts)IcyPeas
(24,245 posts)if you believe that. I don't.
It's either some very high ranking people and/or what they did to some of the girls is worse than what we thought.... and there might be pictures or video.
Epsteins sex trafficking ring went on for almost 20 years. Think of the number of girls/women who haven't come forward.
B.See
(6,712 posts)the exception of Barrett, wouldn't be surprised. Including THOMas. Remember Anita Hill?