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LiberalLoner

(11,456 posts) Tue Sep 9, 2025, 03:19 PM Tuesday

Might be of interest to someone.

https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2025/09/killing-sea-americas-descent-lawless-power/407949/

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The United States has crossed a dangerous line.

Last week, an American military platform destroyed a small vessel in the Caribbean, killing 11 people the Trump administration claims were drug traffickers. It was not an interception. It was not a boarding with Coast Guard legal authority. It was a strike—ordered from Washington, executed in international waters, and justified with little more than “trust us.” Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth told Fox that officials “knew exactly who was in that boat” and “exactly what they were doing.” He offered no evidence.

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Might be of interest to someone. (Original Post) LiberalLoner Tuesday OP

Very Important malaise Tuesday #1

Thank you. 💙. DefenseOne is read by all military senior leadership and many others in the defense system at large. it LiberalLoner Tuesday #3

A serious link malaise Tuesday #8

Hegseth told Fox that officials "knew exactly who was in that boat" KS Toronado Tuesday #2

Post removed Post removed Tuesday #6

Not unless it was a set up. Like maybe they were dissidents.. haele Tuesday #10

Hegseth is asserting he can kill anyone, at any time, for any reason dlk Tuesday #4

It's insurance kbowman Tuesday #5

Totally on brand for this regime BaronChocula Tuesday #7

11 people on a boat of that size, strongly suggests that they were not running drugs, but rather carrying migrants who Fil1957 Tuesday #9

I don't see where they could have been hiding any large quantity of drugs, either William Seger Tuesday #11

To be fair, mayonaise is not very satisfying to a saddist who is not having a good month Attilatheblond Tuesday #12

Starting now, that orange gibbon is going to only visit certain countries, if any. OldBaldy1701E Tuesday #13

WAR PIGS! BidenRocks Tuesday #14

Reminds me of The Maine and The Lusitania aeromanKC Tuesday #15

These arrogant shits answer to no one. spanone Tuesday #16

malaise

(288,878 posts)

1. Very Important

Reply to LiberalLoner (Original post)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 03:22 PM

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Rec for visibility

LiberalLoner

(11,456 posts)

3. Thank you. 💙. DefenseOne is read by all military senior leadership and many others in the defense system at large. it

Reply to malaise (Reply #1)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 04:39 PM

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Is to the military, what the Wall Street journal is to the business community.

It is a significant act of bravery, for this to be published now. It will have a significant impact.

malaise

(288,878 posts)

8. A serious link

Reply to LiberalLoner (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 05:11 PM

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KS Toronado

(21,201 posts)

2. Hegseth told Fox that officials "knew exactly who was in that boat"

Reply to LiberalLoner (Original post)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 04:33 PM

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Got a list of names Pete?

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haele

(14,571 posts)

10. Not unless it was a set up. Like maybe they were dissidents..

Reply to KS Toronado (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 05:16 PM

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And Maduro's government put a tracker on the boat they were using to head out to international waters and pick up, say, money, supplies, weapons, information...
Since Maduro says it didn't happen, chances are if it did happen, if this wasn't made up AI slop, it was done with his blessing.

dlk

(12,927 posts)

4. Hegseth is asserting he can kill anyone, at any time, for any reason

Reply to LiberalLoner (Original post)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 04:42 PM

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He is above the law and no one is stopping him.

kbowman

(4 posts)

5. It's insurance

Reply to LiberalLoner (Original post)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 04:43 PM

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The boat attack was probably insurance in case Scotus ever rejects his deportations. If he can start a war with Venezuela (no matter how short) then he can deport Venezuelan immigrants legally under the Enemy Aliens act. Just another way to deport people. A back up plan, but one where he can say it's under the guise of making the US safer from drugs.

BaronChocula

(3,296 posts)

7. Totally on brand for this regime

Reply to LiberalLoner (Original post)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 05:08 PM

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Bracing for more like this.

Fil1957

(217 posts)

9. 11 people on a boat of that size, strongly suggests that they were not running drugs, but rather carrying migrants who

Reply to LiberalLoner (Original post)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 05:15 PM

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were fleeing Venezuela. But since there is no evidence, we don't really know what was going on. We do know that Stephen Miller has expressed a desire to blow up migrants, and it looks like he might have gotten his wish.

William Seger

(11,796 posts)

11. I don't see where they could have been hiding any large quantity of drugs, either

Reply to Fil1957 (Reply #9)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 05:35 PM

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11 people and a few kilos of cocaine on that boat? Yeah, it just doesn't make sense. And yup, Miller is the source of most of the "cruelty as a deterrence" strategies, ever since child separation -- and he's probably jerking off watching this video over and over.

Attilatheblond

(7,214 posts)

12. To be fair, mayonaise is not very satisfying to a saddist who is not having a good month

Reply to Fil1957 (Reply #9)

Tue Sep 9, 2025, 05:50 PM

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Nothing like a multiple murder to put a spring in his step. To say nothing of the momentary rush it probably gave a certain ketchup affectionado who is also having a bad month.