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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(128,760 posts)
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:00 PM Sep 9

Ben & Jerry to Unilever: This is not the Ben & Jerry's that we founded

Ben Cohen and Jerry Greenfield, the cofounders of Ben & Jerry’s ice cream, are fighting with the company’s parents about the independence of the brand they created nearly 50 years ago.

The pair, which no longer controls the company they created, wrote an open letter Tuesday addressed to the Magnum Ice Cream Company board, which is being spun off from Unilever. The letter asked that Ben & Jerry’s itself be spun off to operate independently, following several disputes over the years about its views on several issues, including criticism of President Donald Trump’s policies and Israel’s war in Gaza.

Cohen and Greenfield wrote that when they sold the ice cream brand to Unilever in 2000, Ben & Jerry’s was given the freedom to pursue its social mission, but Unilever has eroded that freedom over the past two-and-a-half decades.

“For several years now the voice of Ben & Jerry’s has been silenced by Unilever, particularly when the brand has tried to speak out about social justice and unjust wars,” the pair wrote. “That is not the Ben & Jerry’s that we founded, or the one that we envisioned when we agreed to join Unilever 25 years ago.”

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/ben-jerry-unilever-not-ben-134039812.html

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Ben & Jerry to Unilever: This is not the Ben & Jerry's that we founded (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 9 OP
They May Have Been A Bit Naive ProfessorGAC Sep 9 #1
And I imagine the quality has gone down newdeal2 Sep 9 #3
Could Be ProfessorGAC Sep 9 #5
Agreed 100%. Knew it at the time of sale. druidity33 Sep 9 #4
Unilever.... druidity33 Sep 9 #2
When you sell out to capitalist scum, that's what happens. BlueTsunami2018 Sep 9 #6

ProfessorGAC

(74,500 posts)
1. They May Have Been A Bit Naive
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:15 PM
Sep 9

I don't see any way a company the size of Unilever (with whom I've worked mant times) would actually allow the independence Cohen & Greenfield thought they were getting.
It's just not realistic.
If they wanted that degree of independence, they needed to stay independent. Less money for them, but I think it was naive to think they'd get the big payday & have a giant corporation keep a promise if said company thought their views conflicted with the corporate mission.
It's a shame, but a company that powerful can't be trusted to do anything but act on their own interest.

newdeal2

(4,114 posts)
3. And I imagine the quality has gone down
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:39 PM
Sep 9

Big corporations alway screw up the smaller companies they acquire.

ProfessorGAC

(74,500 posts)
5. Could Be
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:42 PM
Sep 9

I do have to say, however, that my dealings with Unilever always suggested they are not all that willing to sacrifice quality.
They're bug & powerful enough to be able to raise prices if quality costs money.
However, I worked with their personal care divisions & not foods. So, I'm only speculating as to this product line.

druidity33

(6,826 posts)
4. Agreed 100%. Knew it at the time of sale.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:41 PM
Sep 9

They tried to bake the independence of the company into a Board that was not allowed to make decisions that might affect profits or offend shareholders. It was never going to work. They should have made it a worker owned co-op.



druidity33

(6,826 posts)
2. Unilever....
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 08:37 PM
Sep 9

Chumbawamba 1986. I knew what a shitty company Unilever was in 1989 when i first listened to this album. I knew when B&J sold it to them that Unilever was never going to let them live up to their ideals.



lyrics:
Whitewash
When you don't want to feed the world
When you just want to feed your bank balance
Wash your guilt away
Unilever washes whiter
Soap to clean those dirty hands
And a slap for the people who work the land
Unilever
Man-made hunger
Soap in our eyes
John West is the best
Old soap opera
No soap-reality
Legal slave trade
Domestos kills all known truths dead
Soap to wash the darkest stain
Profit covers up the pain
Of a slow, deliberate genocide
And all the dirt you want to hide
Take the black and wash it whiter
Brooke-Bond Oxo
Blue Band, Bird's Eye
Lifebuoy, Sunsilk
Persil washes whiter
We make whitewash
We sell whitewash
Consume whitewash
Consumed by whitewash
Whitewash
Buy it
Somewhere in this cycle there's me and you
What are we prepared to do?
(vomiting)

BlueTsunami2018

(4,626 posts)
6. When you sell out to capitalist scum, that's what happens.
Tue Sep 9, 2025, 09:10 PM
Sep 9

Unillever doesn’t give a fuck about social justice or unjust wars or anything decent. All they care about is squeezing every last penny out of the brand. Capitalism doesn’t give, all it does is eat. Ben and Jerry were always going to get fucked over, that’s the nature of the beast they sold out to.

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