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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy hasn't the murder of Iryna Zarutska been mentioned earlier?
She was killed August 22, 2-1/2 weeks ago.
And why is her murder being pinned on Democrats?

RandiFan1290
(6,610 posts)hlthe2b
(111,352 posts)being among the DEMS responsible or ignoring this story. Why are you seemingly playing into it with this post? I'm surprised at you, no_hypoocrisy.
I have to go to work, so I don't have time to search out those stories, but I fully recall at least three. None identified her by name, as is typical early on in murder cases. (Ditto the assailant). She was merely identified as a Ukrainian woman.
no_hypocrisy
(53,093 posts)I'd understand the local news vantage. But why now? Unfortunately, people are murdered every day in many places. I don't understand why this story has been elevated, other than the comparison to the Kitty Genovese angle where nobody came to her rescue.
hlthe2b
(111,352 posts)as a way to ingratiate himself with Trump and his supposed "war on crime..." RW exploitation at its worst. I assume Charlotte has a Democratic mayor (yes, apparently so).
The entire sad surveillance video was posted here as well. Horrific.
no_hypocrisy
(53,093 posts)MichMan
(15,954 posts)Victim, who was a refugee from war torn Ukraine, was sitting quietly minding her own business when she was senselessly attacked.
lame54
(38,420 posts)>I'm surprised at you, no_hypoocrisy.
Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)
underpants
(193,085 posts)🙄
Teaser going into commercial Terrorists killed in Qatar
Mike Nelson
(10,756 posts)... this story didn't really "take off" in Conservative media until recently. It is now viral. First, the tape release. When did it become available? I'm not sure... but it needs those images... Also, the story doesn't really "fit the narrative" perfectly... the victim is the "Alien" and the killer is a US citizen. But, to them, she is pretty and looks like "us" while he looks "foreign" - so that works. It did not happen in Chicago, but it is a city subway setting and the story can still be part of "CRIME!" being promoted by "left wing lunatic" Dems, who "let the killer out" ... so, overall, I think it works for FOX and their ilk.
Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)I only heard about that one Monday.
My take was now paid attention to because the video evidence released and she was pretty and a foreigner with an interesting story?
JustAnotherGen
(37,080 posts)Not sure what else needs to be discussed?
RandiFan1290
(6,610 posts)sop
(16,094 posts)The stabbing plays to all the usual rightwing stereotypes and fears, it allows Bondi to appear tough on crime and it helps Trump justify his crime crackdown on cities.
ms liberty
(10,600 posts)By a guy also riding the light rail who was a low level criminal.
The real reason it's in the news with the Magats is because we have a rising star Democratic Governor Josh Stein, rising star Democratic Lt Governor Rachel Hunt (daughter of former Gov Jim Hunt), our Attorney General is rising Democratic star Jeff Jackson, and along with Democratic Superintendent of Schools Mo Green and (Democratic) Justice Allison Riggs ( after all the litigation of course)...
and all elected at the same time we allegedly voted for the Orange Monster at the top of the ballot.
Oh and Charlotte is one of the bluest areas of the state. People forget we're really purple, not red.
JI7
(92,658 posts)not sure what you mean by low level criminal but from what I have read he had many charges against him before this.
I think the horrific way this whole thing happened should make it national.
Why did the NYC case become nationalized.
ms liberty
(10,600 posts)He was riding the LR, she got on and sat in front of him and he suddenly jumped up and stabbed her. His arrest record includes robberies and assaults, but not a known murderer. The story has been in the news locally since it happened.
A single murder in a single city on a single day is not actually national news unless the murderer or victim is a prominent public figure. It's local or regional news. The idea that every crime everywhere should be nationally reported is an invention of the 24 hour news cycle.
This is a story because it plays into Orange Man's idioctic attempts to prove there's a crime wave particularly in blue run states; that's why it'sa national story now. .
JI7
(92,658 posts)The right wing is exploiting it for sure but there are things which make it easy to do like the national attention on Daniel Penny case on the NYC Sub.
Calling someone who has a history of violently assaulting people a "low level criminal" is exactly the kind of bs that make Democrats look soft on crime. Guess what? People don't want "low level criminals" in their neighborhoods, riding their trains, or occupying the public spaces. People know it only takes one second for that person to become a "high level criminal" when their long history of BLATANT DISREGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE results in murder and those in charge suddenly say "Oops, I guess I should have denied bail."
JI7
(92,658 posts)attacking that guy that took down the guy giving threats.
I keep saying democrsts need to be clear and openly tough on crime and immigration. It doesn't mean supporting the same shit as Republicans but one reason Bill Clinton , Obama, and Biden won are they were able to get out of the negative perception right wingers throw out towards democrsts.
It also doesn't help that anyone can now get online and say stupid shit and the right wing will take the most bizarre shit and spread it around as the position of Democrats.
And I think the response by the mayor was pretty weak .
JI7
(92,658 posts)protests and focus on it at city councils.
multigraincracker
(36,309 posts)Spin the color wheel. If that doesnt work, spin the emigrant wheel, and on and on.
Tommy Carcetti
(44,207 posts)And it's now being exploited by people for purely racist motives by the same people who openly have said they don't care about other dead Ukrainians.
obamanut2012
(28,822 posts)H2O Man
(77,941 posts)Another Willie Horton.
obamanut2012
(28,822 posts)themaguffin
(4,683 posts)Jilly_in_VA
(13,071 posts)It was simply another tragic case of a mentally ill person (in this case a Black person) killing a person minding their own business (in this case, a pretty white Ukrainian woman who was a refugee). That's what makes it appealing to racists, the Black male/pretty white female angle. That's all. But that's why the Feds got involved.
Greg_In_SF
(593 posts)"I got that white girl".
"I got that White Girl" that made it a hate crime under any definition.
We need to be against hate crimes, no matter who does them.
Klarkashton
(4,039 posts)A horrific random murder. I ask what is the use of continuing to promote the story? Absolutely nothing is going to help the situation. The right wing "say her name" shit is clearly a weak ass mean spirited response to Black Lives Matter.
Deep State Witch
(12,205 posts)Is when they can use them to further a talking point. They probably can't even pronounce her name, even spelled out phonetically.
Deep State Witch
(12,205 posts)But whenever I hear "Ukrainian Refugee Killed" my mind immediately goes to the FSB. I know that they caught the guy that killed her, but I'm wondering if there's more to the story. That's why the RW is pushing it so hard.
ChazII
(6,446 posts)story is racist. The guest was a black woman and I did not get her name.
unblock
(55,634 posts)The right-wing podcasts and social media run wild with all sorts of crazy stories, some based loosely on truth or current events, others not.
The stories that get the most likes and "have legs" are the ones major politicos and the national media pick up on.
There's a time lag involved, they usually only run with stories they're sure play well for them.