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Nevilledog

(54,518 posts)
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 02:49 PM Wednesday

Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event (edited to update suspect is not in custody)

Last edited Wed Sep 10, 2025, 09:15 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.deseret.com/utah/2025/09/10/charlie-kirk-shot/

This is a breaking news story and will be updated.

Charlie Kirk was shot at an event at Utah Valley University in Orem, Utah on Wednesday.

Bystanders report seeing Kirk shot near his neck during a Q&A with students.

A suspect is in custody, according to a UVU alert sent to students. The campus is on lockdown.
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Charlie Kirk shot at Utah event (edited to update suspect is not in custody) (Original Post) Nevilledog Wednesday OP
Geez newdeal2 Wednesday #1
Video (graphic): demmiblue Wednesday #2
2 shots? Looks like he had some decorticate posturing after the hit. Maru Kitteh Wednesday #16
Decorticate is survivable Warpy Wednesday #100
Yeah, you are correct but he's dead. Maru Kitteh Wednesday #104
Well, that sucks Warpy Wednesday #111
Thats not good. Srkdqltr Wednesday #3
I hope the weapons's okay and every uses the correct nomenclature for it Torchlight Wednesday #4
Another staged attempt like tRump? ( no pun intended). nt ImNotGod Wednesday #5
I am worried about that too newdeal2 Wednesday #7
Take a look at the video above if you have any doubts. Detest the MFer, but this gets us nowhere. Silent Type Wednesday #9
To be frank I don't give a rats ass about him or his cult idiots, they reap what they sow. nt ImNotGod Wednesday #10
Sounds a little too MAGA to me, but carry on. Silent Type Wednesday #21
Guns get the red out Wednesday #34
I'd be fine bashing guns and those that need them. That is not what is happening here. Silent Type Wednesday #44
I'm not feeling too much sympathy either. Polly Hennessey Wednesday #64
My opinion angrychair Wednesday #95
Oh, I will carry on and anyone that doesn't like my posts can put me on ignore as I do with them. nt ImNotGod Wednesday #114
He said everybody else who has been murdered with guns is worth it. still-prayin4rain Wednesday #67
How do you feel NOW, Charlie? calimary Wednesday #92
I don't ForgedCrank Wednesday #108
Distraction from the Predator Files Sequoia Wednesday #52
Please let it go Hieronymus Phact Wednesday #99
if anyone doesn't like what I post they can put me on ignore, like I do to them. Have a nice day. nt ImNotGod Wednesday #115
the point is spreading conspiraciy theories is unhealthy and degrades the forum. Hieronymus Phact Thursday #120
Wouldn't put it past him uponit7771 Wednesday #101
No. Cha Wednesday #112
If not I blame bigballs. nt ImNotGod Wednesday #116
Absolutely awful Daveigh Wednesday #6
I do not support violence sarisataka Wednesday #8
Ew...Katy Tur weighed in senseandsensibility Wednesday #11
If he was a proper *man*, husband and father, gifted with family, sprinkleeninow Wednesday #106
Expect violent Greg_In_SF Wednesday #12
What do you mean by "us"...? SouthernCal_Dem Wednesday #15
If you can't understand Greg_In_SF Wednesday #31
I agree. Dems bear no responsibility senseandsensibility Wednesday #36
Fact is it's quite possibly someone who disagrees with Kirk's of demanding the Epstein files release herding cats Wednesday #35
Exactly senseandsensibility Wednesday #46
His Epstein files stance was two-fold. herding cats Wednesday #51
All the conservatives at work are already saying it's Democrats. haele Wednesday #59
Alleged shooter is an older white guy superpatriotman Wednesday #75
This just makes him a martyr and a badhair77 Wednesday #13
In Trump America, none of us are safe Johonny Wednesday #14
Agreed. The world has gone mad Daveigh Wednesday #17
Regardless of my feelings on Kirk, this isn't okay EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #18
MN tintinvotes Wednesday #19
This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Wednesday #39
Charlie Kirk's response to mass shootings was to say that gun deaths were RockRaven Wednesday #20
Quite ironic then if he were to end up making a contribution to the cause. Xavier Breath Wednesday #23
Yeah, kinda like he took one for the team. StarryNite Wednesday #68
The real irony will be if trump starts confiscating guns.. Volaris Wednesday #110
That simple n/t malaise Wednesday #33
Alrighty then UpInArms Wednesday #73
Charlie Kirk: It's worth the cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every year so that we can have the 2nd Amendment Celerity Wednesday #22
excellent. he got his wish. Maru Kitteh Wednesday #24
You first, Charlie. Vinca Wednesday #37
That made me LOL! Sogo Wednesday #69
He a liar whose lies have killed people Johnny2X2X Wednesday #25
In his world it's ok when the victims are school children malaise Wednesday #40
Awful DET Wednesday #26
Farts and Beers edhopper Wednesday #27
Oh well thoughts and prayers Fullduplexxx Wednesday #28
Shooting people, even awful people, is never a good thing. Ocelot II Wednesday #29
The thing is, when you base your entire life around sowing hate and division in the world... Initech Wednesday #48
That's too bad. BlueTsunami2018 Wednesday #30
Nice! You have a pizza oven? Do you make everything from scratch? fujiyamasan Wednesday #56
I have a pizza stone for my Weber grill. BlueTsunami2018 Wednesday #91
Great been wanting to do the same! fujiyamasan Wednesday #96
The one who said gun deaths were worth it so we could have a Second Amendment? EnergizedLib Wednesday #32
Kirk coined "your body my choice" BlueWaveNeverEnd Wednesday #54
Shooter had white fatigue LoveSucky Wednesday #38
i will be curious as the coming days unfold... Takket Wednesday #41
Horrible. At the end of the day we have free speech Melon Wednesday #42
suspect is "an older man" -- I wonder what that means mainer Wednesday #43
There is a video on X of the alleged shooter newdeal2 Wednesday #45
I just saw the video. A Larry David- looking guy. mainer Wednesday #49
With the mountain of lies Kirk has said through the years perhaps something happened FloridaBlues Wednesday #85
Guess it means he's not the typical gun-humping incel. Silent Type Wednesday #47
Well, like you said Charles. bluestarone Wednesday #50
just saw video of the seconds before and after; absolutely horrific eShirl Wednesday #53
It's the guns blogslug Wednesday #55
saw the video on X, very graphic, the immediate amount of blood loss looked like it's terminal Shellback Squid Wednesday #57
That is not what he said. n/t malaise Wednesday #82
I don't think you meant this for me Shellback Squid Wednesday #84
Extreme graphic clip. He was gushing blood IcyPeas Wednesday #58
OMG! demmiblue Wednesday #61
Plus 1!! BlueWaveNeverEnd Wednesday #63
That's awful Johnny2X2X Wednesday #62
He was still alive when medical attn got to him BlueWaveNeverEnd Wednesday #66
Reminds me of a hickey goalie in the 80s Johnny2X2X Wednesday #70
It wasn't the towel that saved him. WhiskeyGrinder Wednesday #117
Hand pressure works too. Might even be better than a towel. A tshirt will sub for a towel too. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #77
Oh JESUS. He's GONE. Maru Kitteh Wednesday #65
I loathe the guy, but this is sickening. edbermac Wednesday #71
We are going to have to face off with these MAGA nutjobs sooner or later anyway. hadEnuf Wednesday #107
Oh my. Abolishinist Wednesday #76
I'm seeing report say blood is AI. I haven't looked and I'm not going to. I'll let written postings sort it out. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #79
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Wednesday #88
First the shooting in Minnesota and now this. totodeinhere Wednesday #60
Wonder who the shooter is. You all know the "libtards" will be blamed. Vinca Wednesday #72
Post removed Post removed Wednesday #74
Blaming it on the "Radical Left" Deep State Witch Wednesday #78
Elon Musk is already blaming the left yliza Wednesday #93
Says the Man Deep State Witch Wednesday #94
The man himself said Jilly_in_VA Wednesday #80
I don't condone the shooting indusurb Wednesday #81
It's about time the National Guard was called to Orem, and such other violent, red cities and campuses.... Sogo Wednesday #83
Thoughts and prayers mzmolly Wednesday #86
Difficult to tell if it was the carotid or jugular or both. markodochartaigh Wednesday #87
Time to invade Utah bucolic_frolic Wednesday #89
Well... purr-rat beauty Wednesday #90
He Died mokeyz Wednesday #97
He's in a better place now. Abolishinist Wednesday #98
The shooter has ruined his life for that bastard. Klarkashton Wednesday #102
I'd like to offer thoughts and prayers. OrlandoDem2 Wednesday #103
Turns out the shooter is not in custody Hassler Wednesday #105
Latest reports say Kirk is dead pfitz59 Wednesday #109
Please update your headline. Not ID'd, nor arrested, nor has the weapon been recovered. SunSeeker Wednesday #113
I updated. I was the first to post this event and that was the info at the time. Nevilledog Wednesday #118
I'm having a senior moment. Who is Charlie Kirk and why should I care if he's dead? mucholderthandirt Wednesday #119
He was a repulsive younger right wing white nationalist fujiyamasan Thursday #121

demmiblue

(38,713 posts)
2. Video (graphic):
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 02:53 PM
Wednesday

BREAKING

There are reports that there has been a shooting at a Charlie Kirk/Turning Point USA event in Utah.

It appears that Kirk may have been shot in the neck.

Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yasharali.bsky.social) 2025-09-10T18:46:26.088Z

Maru Kitteh

(30,612 posts)
16. 2 shots? Looks like he had some decorticate posturing after the hit.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:06 PM
Wednesday

Bye Charles.

To be clear: Violence is bad. Republicans and misgynist white nationalist Christians should stop fomenting it. Also, he was surrounded by ‘good’ white MEN with guns. Huh. How ‘bout that?

Warpy

(113,897 posts)
100. Decorticate is survivable
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:17 PM
Wednesday

although he's going to have a long recovery ahead of him

Decerebrate is the one you don't want to see, although I've seen people who came in posturing recoverr from that, also.

It depends on how fast emergency care was given.

I never had much use for Kirk, he's like Jordan Peterson and a few others, all complaints and finger pointing, no solutions, no compassion. His following came from alienated people who hadn't learned to get off their diffs an do something about things they didn't like.

I take no pleasure in his FAFO about guns. If debate is going to be reduced to shooting an opponent, I"m glad I'm old and my time is limited.

Maru Kitteh

(30,612 posts)
104. Yeah, you are correct but he's dead.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:20 PM
Wednesday

I saw a second video much closer and it was clearly not survivable.

Torchlight

(5,615 posts)
4. I hope the weapons's okay and every uses the correct nomenclature for it
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 02:55 PM
Wednesday

Oh, and thought and prayers too, Mr. kirk. I hope your Prove Me Wrong tour gets better!


(yeah... sarcasm from top top bottom)

newdeal2

(3,962 posts)
7. I am worried about that too
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 02:58 PM
Wednesday

Also proves that a good guy with a gun can’t stop everyone.

Silent Type

(10,973 posts)
9. Take a look at the video above if you have any doubts. Detest the MFer, but this gets us nowhere.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:00 PM
Wednesday

ImNotGod

(1,067 posts)
10. To be frank I don't give a rats ass about him or his cult idiots, they reap what they sow. nt
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:02 PM
Wednesday

get the red out

(13,854 posts)
34. Guns
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:22 PM
Wednesday

We can't talk about the the fact that the right won't address the gun issue in the country, though even they can suffer because of it too?

Polly Hennessey

(8,118 posts)
64. I'm not feeling too much sympathy either.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:43 PM
Wednesday

Charlie Kirk spews lies like a swarm of flies. I do, however, hope he recovers without too much after damage. The world we live in , oh my.

angrychair

(11,107 posts)
95. My opinion
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:37 PM
Wednesday

Is that violence only begats violence.
Kirk has done his fair share of promoting hate and violence against others. I have zero doubt that his constant rhetoric against marginalized people is responsible for the deaths of innocent people. Therefore, I do not take any pleasure in this horrible incident, I am just not surprised by it.

ImNotGod

(1,067 posts)
114. Oh, I will carry on and anyone that doesn't like my posts can put me on ignore as I do with them. nt
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:09 PM
Wednesday

still-prayin4rain

(446 posts)
67. He said everybody else who has been murdered with guns is worth it.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:45 PM
Wednesday
https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-says-gun-deaths-worth-it-2nd-amendment-1793113

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe."

calimary

(87,765 posts)
92. How do you feel NOW, Charlie?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:34 PM
Wednesday

That “God-given right” almost sent YOU to the undertaker. Still feel the same now?

ForgedCrank

(2,874 posts)
108. I don't
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:43 PM
Wednesday

think people quite understand just how far this is going to set us back.
The majority of people here are mocking a guy who was assassinated. The entire country can see this gruesome video and it is not going to end well for us, especially when the words written in places like this are read by outsiders. The look is disgusting, and that is a seriously sized understatement.

Hieronymus Phact

(660 posts)
99. Please let it go
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:09 PM
Wednesday

Nobody 'staged' a shot at trump, intending to miss so closely that it grazed him but killed someone behind him, just to make a publicity stunt.
Not credible.

Please leave the conspiracies to the Q nutters.

ImNotGod

(1,067 posts)
115. if anyone doesn't like what I post they can put me on ignore, like I do to them. Have a nice day. nt
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:11 PM
Wednesday

Hieronymus Phact

(660 posts)
120. the point is spreading conspiraciy theories is unhealthy and degrades the forum.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 01:01 AM
Thursday

it's not all about you.

Daveigh

(61 posts)
6. Absolutely awful
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 02:58 PM
Wednesday

My thoughts are with everyone—Utah Valley University students/witnesses certainly included.

senseandsensibility

(23,758 posts)
11. Ew...Katy Tur weighed in
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:02 PM
Wednesday

and said he was the only young politician that was really connecting with young people and then corrected herself that he wasn't a politician, but she is so tone deaf to my ears anyway. She comes across a gushing in the weirdest situations.

sprinkleeninow

(21,576 posts)
106. If he was a proper *man*, husband and father, gifted with family,
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:34 PM
Wednesday
he shouldn't have put himself in such a position to receive what just befell him.

senseandsensibility

(23,758 posts)
36. I agree. Dems bear no responsibility
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:23 PM
Wednesday

for this. We also don't know what the "motive" was here. Very easily could be warring factions of maga culminating in violence. There's a lot of conflict between them lately. All Dems will and should condemn the violence but it is in no way their fault.

herding cats

(19,829 posts)
35. Fact is it's quite possibly someone who disagrees with Kirk's of demanding the Epstein files release
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:22 PM
Wednesday

The GOP is truly that fractured at the moment.

senseandsensibility

(23,758 posts)
46. Exactly
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:30 PM
Wednesday

That's what I thought too, but I wasn't sure that was his position since I don't follow these RW "influencers" closely.

herding cats

(19,829 posts)
51. His Epstein files stance was two-fold.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:34 PM
Wednesday

First he was all in in changing the subject and moving on. Then he got a lot of backlash from his MAGA supporters, especially the youth, and flipped back to released the files.

So, I definitely seems it could be an angry follower.

superpatriotman

(6,748 posts)
75. Alleged shooter is an older white guy
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:53 PM
Wednesday

So. I suppose they could be any, all, some or none of those groups.


badhair77

(4,964 posts)
13. This just makes him a martyr and a
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:04 PM
Wednesday

hero. The cult will love him even more, like when trump was the victim. This doesn’t help our side. Damn.

Johonny

(24,587 posts)
14. In Trump America, none of us are safe
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:04 PM
Wednesday

And no fucking way is this good. What a fucking shit show this country has become.

Daveigh

(61 posts)
17. Agreed. The world has gone mad
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:06 PM
Wednesday

Coming on the heels of news of the NC knife attack … it’s all deeply disturbing. Take care of each other, friends.

EdmondDantes_

(889 posts)
18. Regardless of my feelings on Kirk, this isn't okay
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:07 PM
Wednesday

Not just because it will likely play up a sense of victimhood among conservatives, but this sort of violence itself is bad. Kirk is allowed to say whatever hurtful stupid things he wants without someone trying to kill him.

tintinvotes

(95 posts)
19. MN
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:09 PM
Wednesday

I think Tim Walz should come out and say he and MN know exactly how this feels and the political rhetoric from the Pres and Republicans needs to be toned down. Declaring war on Chicago and the rest of the Democratic cities They brought this violence on, I'm not surprised they are reaping what they sow.

Response to tintinvotes (Reply #19)

RockRaven

(17,956 posts)
20. Charlie Kirk's response to mass shootings was to say that gun deaths were
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:11 PM
Wednesday

worth it to have/keep the 2nd Am.

"You will never live in a society when you have an armed citizenry and you won't have a single gun death," Kirk said at a Turning Point USA Faith event on Wednesday, as reported by Media Matters for America. "That is nonsense. It's drivel. But I am—I think it's worth it.

"I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe."


https://www.newsweek.com/charlie-kirk-says-gun-deaths-worth-it-2nd-amendment-1793113

Sowing, reaping, etc.

Volaris

(11,036 posts)
110. The real irony will be if trump starts confiscating guns..
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:47 PM
Wednesday

They HAD ALL the guns, AND the 2nd amendment, and didn't do shit with EITHER when the dictator ended up being one of them.

Gun control via legislation is not tyranny it's the democratic process WORKING, and yes that means someone's gonna get out voted.

If the death of ONE of their own is what FINALLY gets this done, then so be it.

Also, there WILL be blowback. If the shooter was one ioata to the left of Hitler, trumps gonna use this to further putting armed troops in our cities cause librul crimz.

ALSO Also, dems UNIVERSAL RESPONSE to this needs to be 'well guys, do you want thoughts and prayers or do you want to fix the problem...which would you prefer, go ahead YOU TELL US.'

Johnny2X2X

(23,368 posts)
25. He a liar whose lies have killed people
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:16 PM
Wednesday

Political violence is wrong though and it's what Trump wants, if this was that.

DET

(2,202 posts)
26. Awful
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:16 PM
Wednesday

The only one I have sympathy for is his daughter, who was apparently at the event. No child should have to see that, no matter how awful the parent.

Ocelot II

(127,056 posts)
29. Shooting people, even awful people, is never a good thing.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:19 PM
Wednesday

That said - live by the sword, die by the sword. Charlie is on record as saying a few gun deaths are worth it to preserve the "freedom" of the Second Amendment. Ya think your own ass is worth it, Charlie?

Initech

(106,243 posts)
48. The thing is, when you base your entire life around sowing hate and division in the world...
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:31 PM
Wednesday

And attaching yourself to one of the absolute worst human beings alive (Donald Trump), you can definitely expect to attract some of the worst people alive to your cause.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,601 posts)
91. I have a pizza stone for my Weber grill.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:25 PM
Wednesday

My wife makes the dough, I make the sauce. I am using store bought mozzarella though. Didn’t have time to make that. The basil is grown in my backyard.

So good.

fujiyamasan

(653 posts)
96. Great been wanting to do the same!
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:40 PM
Wednesday

I have a Weber that’s out of commission. Need to get it fixed.

EnergizedLib

(2,760 posts)
32. The one who said gun deaths were worth it so we could have a Second Amendment?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:21 PM
Wednesday

Karma.

Remember, before you feel bad about someone shooting Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk wouldn’t care if it was you. If you were the one trump shot on Fifth Avenue, Charlie Kirk would defend trump.

Takket

(23,207 posts)
41. i will be curious as the coming days unfold...
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:25 PM
Wednesday

to see how the coverage of this compares to the assassination of the Minnesota Democrats that was out of the news cycle just a few days after it happened.

Melon

(764 posts)
42. Horrible. At the end of the day we have free speech
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:26 PM
Wednesday

Nobody deserves to die for advocating their position, whether we agree or not. This will only ad fuel to the fire and ultimately strengthen Kirk’s message and force it to be heard by more.

mainer

(12,426 posts)
43. suspect is "an older man" -- I wonder what that means
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:26 PM
Wednesday

With such a huge crowd, I'm surprised they caught the guy.

newdeal2

(3,962 posts)
45. There is a video on X of the alleged shooter
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:28 PM
Wednesday

He is being handcuffed on the ground. Old white male with glasses and balding. Doesn’t fit their usual narrative but I’ll be curious to hear more.

FloridaBlues

(4,603 posts)
85. With the mountain of lies Kirk has said through the years perhaps something happened
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:04 PM
Wednesday

To a family member of the shooter because of Kirk’s words. Never know what motivates someone to go and take revenge.

Shellback Squid

(9,614 posts)
57. saw the video on X, very graphic, the immediate amount of blood loss looked like it's terminal
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:38 PM
Wednesday

blood was gushing from the left side of his neck, it almost looked fake, no one deserves this

Johnny2X2X

(23,368 posts)
62. That's awful
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:42 PM
Wednesday

He could still survive if someone with a towel was there a few seconds after this. But it's going to be a huge loss of blood unless he got medical attention almost immediately.

Johnny2X2X

(23,368 posts)
70. Reminds me of a hickey goalie in the 80s
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:47 PM
Wednesday

Clint Malarchuk who caught an errant skate to the jugular. Blood sprayed out onto the ice 10 feet as he collapsed, but a trainer was there with a towel immediately and he recovered.

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,655 posts)
117. It wasn't the towel that saved him.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:19 PM
Wednesday

It was Pizzutelli reaching into the wound and pinching the artery while kneeing on Malarchuk's shoulder blade to slow his heart and induce semi-consciousness.

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,215 posts)
77. Hand pressure works too. Might even be better than a towel. A tshirt will sub for a towel too. . . nt
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:54 PM
Wednesday

edbermac

(16,313 posts)
71. I loathe the guy, but this is sickening.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:49 PM
Wednesday

I don’t pray, but I hope he survives. And if he dies, I just know every MAGA nut job is going to declare open season on people they don’t like.

hadEnuf

(3,382 posts)
107. We are going to have to face off with these MAGA nutjobs sooner or later anyway.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:35 PM
Wednesday

Open season works both ways.

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,215 posts)
79. I'm seeing report say blood is AI. I haven't looked and I'm not going to. I'll let written postings sort it out. . nt
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:58 PM
Wednesday

Response to IcyPeas (Reply #58)

totodeinhere

(13,665 posts)
60. First the shooting in Minnesota and now this.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:41 PM
Wednesday

Last edited Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Political violence in this country has got to stop.

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

Jilly_in_VA

(12,984 posts)
80. The man himself said
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 03:59 PM
Wednesday

“I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational."

I guess it came back to bite him in the neck.

That's called karma.

I am neither rejoicing nor pointing fingers. It is merely an observation.

indusurb

(247 posts)
81. I don't condone the shooting
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:00 PM
Wednesday

But frankly, in this time and place, it is to be expected. As are many more. We're living in a behavioral sink, with an extra large helping of guns thrown in for good measure.

Sogo

(6,599 posts)
83. It's about time the National Guard was called to Orem, and such other violent, red cities and campuses....
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:02 PM
Wednesday

nt.

markodochartaigh

(3,906 posts)
87. Difficult to tell if it was the carotid or jugular or both.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:08 PM
Wednesday

The corporation that I was working for very briefly tried to use surgical glue as an alternative to staples/sutures for carotid endarterectomies. It lead to really horrifying scenes when the glue failed.

Edit: The only way that I would like Charlie Kirk less is if he was a martyr.

purr-rat beauty

(780 posts)
90. Well...
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 04:25 PM
Wednesday

Gun violence does not solve shit no matter who is pulling the trigger. This is not acceptable and should not be how political discourse is handled. It appears sadly, that Kirk did not have much concern for the lives of children lost from guns though. I do not wish this upon anyone but it was his belief that gun deaths are unfortunately necessary in the preservation of our God Given Rights. Irony is dead.

pfitz59

(11,826 posts)
109. Latest reports say Kirk is dead
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:45 PM
Wednesday

and suspect not in custody. I expect this to dominate the news.

mucholderthandirt

(1,664 posts)
119. I'm having a senior moment. Who is Charlie Kirk and why should I care if he's dead?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 09:23 PM
Wednesday

LOL

This thread was too long to read. My brain won't handle it. I won't even see this post and any replies, so don't feel bad. I'm just being a shit asking like this, because I hate MAGA.

fujiyamasan

(653 posts)
121. He was a repulsive younger right wing white nationalist
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 03:06 AM
Thursday

Very close to Trump and he had a lot of influence with his podcasts and his organization Turning Point USA.

He peddled plenty of racism, homophobia, sexism, xenophobia, anti semitism, etc

I have a feeling the media will sanitize much of what he said, while they fawn over him. Not thrilled about what happened, but I’m not shedding any tears here. I’m worried where we’re going as a country. This makes it that much worse.

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