Hate and violence that is. A natural reaction is to "fight fire with fire." Not ecstatic for his demise but he really was an awful misogynistic racist POS. That's all I'll say about him.

that one of his favorite lines, is: "liberal dissenters should all be executed in Public".........

I wonder if this shooter was a Republican like the two that supposedly went after Trump??????????????

There is no glamor in taking a big shit, but it has to come out.

for not suffering the vapid orthodoxy among some that believe we fight best when we do not fight at all.

Thank you for the consistency for being more disgusted by Charlie Kirk's life than by his death.

Today is not gleeful or joyous. It is auspicious.

Crazy? (maybe) Possible? (probably)

Does your husband think Charlie Kirk knows something, or thinks that he is a useful martyr to mobilize undergrad males?

I'm not sure I buy it.

I think it may have the opposite effect and serve as a mortal reminder for Trump who, in case you haven't heard, is concerned he isn't getting into heaven.

As if that were in question.

He seems to be a man between 60-70 years of age. Did one of his kids went to the dark side because of Mr. Kirk's vial rhetoric?

I do not condone violence, but Kirk did, always thinking that it could never happen to him because the people he wanted dead were Democrats, and those he incited were on his side.

I don't know how much hurt and damage Kirk caused with his speeches, and let us not forget that his target audience was college kids, impressionable young people, that is the place where he got shot.

I feel bad for his family, his kids, but I do hope that those who preach hate and violence learn that one cannot go through life advocating violence against people one does not like, and expect that someone who does not agree with your rhetoric may not decide it is time to stop the awful messages of violence.

I believe is not the suspect. All I know about the suspect at this moment is he was dressed in all black.

Particularly Stephen Miller.

same age roughly. miller may have considered mr kirk a threat. and who can doubt miller's willingness to do such a thing.

He's immune from any direct order he issues as president.

Anyone who argues his is not mentally ill is deluding themselves. We don't need an "examination" or structured interview using the Hare Psychopathy Checklist. Decades of real-world observation of public behavior tells the story.

Post from 2017: DT is mentally ill: Antisocial Personality Disorder and Narcissistic Personality Disorder
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DT is mentally ill. He meets the criteria for Antisocial and Narcissistic Personality Disorders. And based on public conduct, I have no doubt that an evaluation would put him way up on the Psychopathy Checklist.

Lying and "distorting reality" are hallmarks. He breaks every rule in the book in pursuit of his own ends. He lies and distorts reality to rationalize and justify his wrongful conduct. To puff up his over-inflated ego he stereotypes and denigrates those he sees as out-groups. His callous disregard for others and sense of entitlement appear to know no bounds. He weaves grandiose tales of his fearsome power, omnipotence, and unequaled brilliance. He is proudly abrasive and offensive. He clearly enjoys humiliating and embarrassing others, but reacts to any perceived slight to his own person, appearance, or accomplishments aggressively and vindictively.

I'm sure there have been U.S. presidential candidates, and presidents, who could be diagnosed with a personality disorder of some sort, but I can't think any of who exhibited this level of psychopathy. I can't think of any who met as many diagnostic criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder, or who met as many criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Regarding Personality Disorders in general

probably on Untruthful Social first.

been chatting over this with a friend. distraction from epstein, he says.

it does appear to be a well trained sniper who killed him.

then it is time to throw in the towel. What is the point of becoming what we profess to hate?

"An eye for an eye and the whole goes blind."

But there is another proverb about actions and words

It makes me happy that he went to his death to preserve the second amendment right to kill another person with a gun. Fuck him. It makes me happy and yes I'm laughing about it.

But I'm not sad at all about it.

Why should I be?

Today, like yesterday, more than 100K people will die. Why should I mourn over the likes of Kirk? He was a monster. The world is better off without him in it.

I wont shed a tear for the odious Mr. Kirk.

i’m not sad, either.

Every thing that happens, seems random to me. Does not matter if I wish it or not. I just accept it.

You live by the sword.......well you know the rest.....

Live by the sword.......well you know the rest.....

children at the altar of the Second Amendment. They always think it will never happen to them . . . until they're spurting blood all over a stage in Utah. I'm sure the answer, as it always is, will be more guns.

what had just happened.

it's possible he did not. I doubt he made it off the stage alive.

you will see that here. Finger-wagging nanny scolding is kind of . . . Karen.


Also. Kirk had no policies. He wasn’t a lawmaker or a politician. He was a bigoted gasbag misogynist white-power MAGA. He felt we should be willing to let some folks die for the 2nd amendment and he got his wish. I feel bad for his kids, but I felt bad for them before he got shot, too.

this is my favoritest! Sorry Charlie, not sorry.

K&R.

Or just this event?

Charlie blamed the left for the MN shootings and political violence. It's sad that anyone in America has to worry about gun violence and political hate, but here we are, and honestly I don't think it's the left that got us here.

our country and public discourse generally...caused mostly by specific individuals (going back at least 30 years) and a certain political party. In my bubble it's fair to say that most people I know have been morose and sad about the new darkness and outrages we see every day now. This murder adds to the sadness and dark trends, doesn't reduce it in any of the posts I've read so far.

We should now be especially aware of the kind of cruelty, rhetoric, hate, and polarization that TSF brings to the world and of the tolerance/willful denial his supporters display. The silence and lack of discussion around this is also to blame. Light needs to be shed on this.

(To this point: see headlines and posts about new gun laws in florida)

are we supposed to echo MAGA litany.."Guns don't kill people/people kill people"..or "This isn't the time to argue gun control"..or "Our thoughts and prayers are with the family"?..no more bullshit..

Charlie Kirk was a hate-spewing piece of shit...a fitting end!!!

Falling on deaf ears here.
Playing nice has been an abysmal failure since the Clinton administration.
I'm perfectly willing to be mean; and won't be dissuaded by having my meanness pointed out.

The quote isn't, "Be the hate you wish to see in the world"

More sanctimonious lecturing.
Just what I hoped for.
He was a tool that reaped what he sewed.
End of story for me.
Good riddance to bad rubbish, is the saying I'll go by.

And if people think that down the road it might be a good idea to delete some of these posts as they're in bad taste and my come back to haunt them, forget about it. Go visit any conservative site out there. They're screenshotting all of this.

Lost our federal govt. Science, healthcare, etc etc.
Soon we shall see SS and medicare bite the dust.

Being too good does not seem to be the right answer.

nt

you are a good man.

And I mean both of us.

Mark Twain

And posted it to Facebook, with no explanation. Pissed off my maga people something awful….


Oh, by the way, it was Clarence Darrow who said that, not Mr Twain, though it certainly sounds like his sentiment.

I know he was the father of 2 young children. It's them I'm thinking about.

who will grow up with a different viewpoint on guns than the one their father espoused.

That fucker died in a world he helped create.

These kind of admonitions seem to be more about signaling one's own virtue rather than any sort of realistic or meaningful or serious attempt to control the behavior of others. So... there's that, I suppose.

How would it reflect on the party NOT to celebrate the death of an evil man who wished nothing but harm for the innocent?

Our rights require the blood of patriots but also tyrants.

they’re looking in a fun house mirror. what we say has no bearing on how we’re painted.

but I understand those who are.

This person wanted many of us to either be dead or to have no rights ( or unequal rights ). His hate was palpable.

He tacitly supported violence by the right against the left

I don't need to be a better person.

https://music.amazon.com/es-us/podcasts/141cf9c6-f9ac-404b-9bcf-aa6180a22bd0/episodes/e6550d41-9936-4e10-b203-410cc6df630c/the-progressive-american-report-episode-55-maga-terrorist-attacks-nancy-pelosi's-home-charlie-kirk%E2%80%99s-defense-of-maga-terrorism-elon-musk%E2%80%99s-abuse-of-twitter-and-response-to-kevin-phares-on-mara-lago-raid

go to 12:12 in the audio and see how Charlie Kirk felt about the attack on Paul Pelosi.

simply based

For whatever Kirk's shitty politics, I don't root for anyone to be killed. That sort of hate eats you up inside.

Before I was able to escape from a violent, physically abusive husband I used to listen to the guns of the duck hunters were we lived and wish I had one of their guns. It's the only time in my life that I entertained the notion.

It took me a while and a couple of broken bones before I saved enough secret money for my escape. But I survived without committing murder. Though even after I left it was several months after before the abuse and attacks by him and his sympathetic friends ended. I still managed to not kill him.

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powerless and neutered on this issue in this country for a long time.

It's 100% on them.

Personally, I would much rather live in a country where deaths like his are impossible or damn close to it.

I had no wish for this man to die. I had no involvement in his death.

But I refuse to be expected to mourn someone who was against common sense gun laws when I see the faces of the parents of the Uvalde victims on a regular basis.

Sometimes, karma just bites and bites hard and this is one of those times. And you can judge me all you want for not grieving this time. Stop the holier than thou crap and let people say what they need to say. No one on DU orchestrated this or wanted this, but not everyone is as saintly as some here want to believe they (themselves) are.

Not to worry, NOTHING will be done about gun violence.

Pointing out the irony of Kirk's position on gun deaths being acceptable and then his dying via a gunshot and saying "you reap what you sow" is not gleefulness. Pointing out what a horrible human being Kirk was is not gleefulness. 99+% of the comments I've seen fall into one of those categories.

Fuck him and fuck his fans

ARE YOU NOT Entertained?!?!?

If someone doesn't want me to rejoice over their death they shouldn't devote their life to making mine a fucking nightmare

I need to do better? No. Charlie Kirk should have

sympathy or support from republicans

Even though?
I disagree with almost everything he says

I can’t get upset about one less evil person in the world. And he was one of those gun victims he was willing to have.

I'm really bad at pretending to be sad when bad things happen to terrible people.

he was able to take full measure of the moment and risks and decide he was prepared to lay his life at the mantle of nearly unregulated firearm access.

if we are going to respect the 2nd Amendment.

So ...

in the face of school shootings.

He was a racist, sexist guy who tried to encourage a generation of youth to not go to college.

I keep hearing about how "polite" he was behind the scenes. Who gives a fuck about how polite someone is after spreading poison to the masses? Stuff that has made our country a worse place to live in.

So I don't feel bad about this news.

My concern is that this will become a tit for tat and escalate into a full blown war.

I would prefer that nobody get shot.

They should try to be better. A race baiter and a man who excused rape by saying what was she wearing. I’m sick of people telling us how to feel, perhaps you should try your value shaming on someone else.

feeling less than sympathetic.

He said this:

Turning Point USA CEO and co-founder Charlie Kirk said of gun deaths on April 5, 2023:

"I think it's worth it. I think it's worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights."

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-kirk-gun-deaths-quote/

From that quote, he'd be fine with his death being part of the "some deaths every year". Well, probably not, he probably figured other people would pay the blood price for his adoration of guns.

I'm not gleeful. He was a human being, a terrible one, but a human being.

ETA: I will save my sympathies for the children who were injured in today's school shooting....and the one that will happen tomorrow and nearly every day, in part due to Charlie Kirk's advocacy for unfettered access to guns.

https://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2025/09/10/3-criticallycolorado-shooting-reportedly-injures-three-at-evergreen-high-school3-critically-injuured/86082124007/

Yawn.

Life goes on.

I know I've said some shit about Charlie Kirk and my opinions about him and TPUSA are well known. Charlie Kirk was a despicable human being who made a living off sowing hate and division in this country, while attaching himself to one of the worst human beings alive. But a politically motivated assassination in front of a huge crowd on TV is fucking insane. Like it shouldn't have to come to this. I wanted Charlie Kirk, Steve Bannon, Sean Hannity and the rest of them to rot in prison, but not killed.

Disappointment abounds!

A poster can write absolutely evenly, unemotionally, with no loaded terms and some people will call it sanctimonious and condemn it. (Since you are not referring to anything or anyone specific you are not being singled out. It's about others.)

It is laughable (and sadly un-self-aware) that members criticize other members for criticizing (not you, you limited your remarks. I'm speaking about others).

I suppose we all have opinions and often get frustrated by the reactions others may have.

It makes Kirk into a martyr, which he does not deserve and it makes Progressives look bad.
So yes, I wish this event had never occurred and Kirk was still alive.

Trump slithered into the scene all those years ago we've seen a woman run over by a Nazi, Democrats in a bus run off the road, Democrat offices firebombed, the husband of one of our leaders nearly beaten to death with a hammer, Dems murdered in Michigan, etc. etc. etc. No flags at half mast, no sympathy from the right wing nuts, lies from the right wing media and people like Kirk.

Do I care about this guy? Not one bit.

“The only person you can now or ever change is yourself. The only person that it is your business to control is yourself.”

You do you. I’ll do me. Thanks.

Brilliant book! Thank you for reminding us.

let's say Trump was shot and killed...your initial reaction would be what?..Charlie Kirk was a malignant racist/antisemite/misogynist/white nationalist/vocal advocate of the Second Amendment...

Words have consequences...hate has consequences....

JK

It may be one of the final pieces he needs to fulfill his wet dream to be a dicktator.

As for Kirk, my reaction to his death is a stoic one. His death is a footnote, unlike John Lennon or Marvin Gaye. That is all.

Remember, even the Nazis needed certain incidents they could take advantage of. The two obvious examples are the killing of Horst Wessel and later, the Reichstag fire.

We should all be prepared for an onslaught of propaganda, similar to the run up to the war on Iraq.

The drumbeat of “war” is eminent, but this time it’s not against a foreign country — it’s on all democrats, and pretty much anyone that dares to disagree with Trump.

Kirk spread hate. It rebounded. Like an echo.

Acknowledging karma and not grieving is not "glee."

OP is outta line. Laughably outta line

If and when you consider mourning Charlie Kirk and/or his family and loved ones, please remember this phrase, and take it to heart.
“I think empathy is a made up New Age term that does a lot of damage” - Charlie Kirk
He thought the shooting deaths were unfortunately worth it.

One less fascist enabler.

Good riddance. He was an enemy to the lgbtq+ community.

But, I have no objections to pointing out that the man said this:

Charlie Kirk: “It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment”

That is not "glee." It highlights the tragic costs to the nation of the reactionary insanity of opposing ALL regulation of guns, however modest and proven. No gun death is acceptable, up to and including his own.