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lostincalifornia

(4,503 posts)
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:53 PM Sep 10

Thune Shuts Door on Obamacare Subsidy Extensions in Funding Bill

"Senate Majority Leader John Thune says there will not be an extension on Affordable Care Act subsidies in Congress’ stopgap funding bill.

“No, this has to be a clean CR,” he tells Bloomberg
Without action, many Obamacare insurance premiums will face large increases at end of year
NOTE: Key Republicans Oppose Obamacare Tax Credit Extension"


https://news.bloombergtax.com/daily-tax-report/thune-shuts-door-on-obamacare-subsidy-extensions-in-funding-bill

This is the one issue that DEMOCRATS should say there will be no funding of the government unless they allow ACA subsides.

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GoodRaisin

(10,525 posts)
1. Democrats must dig in on this.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:58 PM
Sep 10

Otherwise there will be a lot of lost healthcare insurance in 2026.

Fiendish Thingy

(20,821 posts)
3. No they shouldn't dig in
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:01 PM
Sep 10

The compromise deal that was rejected would only have delayed the cuts past the midterms, a temporary reprieve that only benefits the republicans.

Let the chips fall, and let the voters decide if they like things, or if they’ve had enough.

GoodRaisin

(10,525 posts)
8. I disagree. I think Democrats need to be seen fighting for this rather than just letting it go
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:08 PM
Sep 10

without a fight. We see so much crap about democrats not fighting hard. This is a chance to be seen fighting hard. Even a year matters, then carry the fight into next year and the following year. Those subsidy cuts are a big fucking deal.

Fiendish Thingy

(20,821 posts)
13. But their "fight" is to delay the cuts/hikes by 6-12 months
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:45 PM
Sep 10

That’s it.

And the “fight” doesn’t deal with Trump’s pocket rescissions of other funds already appropriated, which could also be applied to any promised funding extension for the ACA.

This is the position already staked out by the Dem leadership- delay the cuts, which only helps the republicans, rather than fighting to permanently restore ACA funding without threat of pocket recessions later.

The average voter isn’t paying attention to any of this, and won’t until it affects them directly.

Better for the effects of Trump 2.0 to be felt before the midterms than after.

Fiendish Thingy

(20,821 posts)
2. Good
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 05:59 PM
Sep 10

Let the benefit cuts and premium hikes kick in before the midterms, so Dems can win even more seats.

Just_Vote_Dem

(3,394 posts)
7. Yeah, and some of those people who can't afford the increase will suffer and die
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:20 PM
Sep 10

Because that's what's going to happen.

Fiendish Thingy

(20,821 posts)
12. So, Dems should cave and give them a 6-12 month reprieve?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:39 PM
Sep 10

The cuts and hikes will happen anyway- why protect republicans?

JBTaurus83

(667 posts)
4. Let the cuts happen
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:11 PM
Sep 10

We shouldn’t help the GOP rescue themselves in the midterms, just to cynically cut the benefits after.

tritsofme

(19,530 posts)
5. And Democrats can say that's fine, as long as the CR doesn't go into the new year.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:13 PM
Sep 10

Republicans want to decouple ACA subsidies and government funding, it’s in our interest to line up the deadlines.

A clean CR till 11/30 or 12/31 would do the trick.

Raven123

(7,038 posts)
6. I see this as a distraction
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:18 PM
Sep 10

Why vote for a CR when the GOP reneged on how funds were to be spent when the budget was passed?

Qutzupalotl

(15,503 posts)
9. Is this about the extra subsidies after the pandemic?
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:12 PM
Sep 10

Or all the subsidies?

The reason I ask is we have been contemplating going to an ACA plan. Out of curiosity I tried shopping with various income levels. I was still seeing subsidies at $150k for two people. That may be too generous. The ones starting around $42k for two people are crucial, and I hope those survive. If they phase out around 100 or 120k, that would make sense. But I could be missing something here.

lostincalifornia

(4,503 posts)
10. The ACA's premiuum subsidies are set to expire at the end of 2025 unles Congress takes action.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:20 PM
Sep 10

Without those subsidy extensions, many people cannot afford the premiums, and the number of uninsured people could increase by millions.


peggysue2

(12,182 posts)
11. Thune has thrown down the gauntlet
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:32 PM
Sep 10

Time for the Dems to shout in unison:

Then F You. Shut it down because we're not budging. In fact, those tariffs are also a sticking point, as in illegal. So add that to our list (scribbling now), as well as military occupation, then shut the whole damn thing down.

Your choice. On your watch. All of it.

This is what democracy sounds like, full-on resistance to the on-going coup against America and her people.

Volaris

(11,046 posts)
14. I agree. Shut this fucker down until TRUMP feels the pain.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:00 PM
Sep 10

You think Speaker HouseElf survives that?
No fucking way trump will care, he will sacrifice ALL OF THEM on the pyre of his own ego. WE know that, it's time for them to know it as well.

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