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TheProle

(3,696 posts) Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:29 PM Sep 10

Gabby Giffords on Kirk Shooting

Gabrielle Giffords, the former Arizona congresswoman and a Democrat who nearly died in a 2011 assassination attempt, said on social media that she was “horrified” to hear that Mr. Kirk had been shot. “Democratic societies will always have political disagreements, but we must never allow America to become a country that confronts those disagreements with violence,” she said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/10/us/charlie-kirk-reaction-trump.html

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Gabby Giffords on Kirk Shooting (Original Post) TheProle Sep 10 OP

Thank you Congresswoman Giffords bottomofthehill Sep 10 #1

She is 100% right. Stpaoulboy Sep 10 #2

This is assuming that this killing was politically motivated. They don't know that no matter what Utah's governor says. ancianita Sep 10 #3

That gov is way over the top. BidenRocks Sep 10 #4

To make political hay over this murder is bearing false witness. It's wrong no matter what the chyrons say. ancianita Sep 10 #6

the execution is wrong no matter WHAT the motivation Skittles Sep 10 #10

And no matter where. ancianita Sep 10 #14

K&R UTUSN Sep 10 #5

Instigating emiami Sep 10 #11

K&R highplainsdem Sep 10 #7

Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. Isaac Asimov Ping Tung Sep 10 #8

she gets it Skittles Sep 10 #9

I guess there's a difference 3825-87867 Sep 10 #12

too late... myohmy2 Sep 10 #13

bottomofthehill

(9,258 posts)

1. Thank you Congresswoman Giffords

Reply to TheProle (Original post)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 06:59 PM

Sep 10

For speaking so eloquently. There are few who have her understanding, please take her comments to heart.

Stpaoulboy

(42 posts)

2. She is 100% right.

Reply to TheProle (Original post)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:11 PM

Sep 10

What she said.

ancianita

(41,897 posts)

3. This is assuming that this killing was politically motivated. They don't know that no matter what Utah's governor says.

Reply to TheProle (Original post)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:14 PM

Sep 10

BidenRocks

(2,228 posts)

4. That gov is way over the top.

Reply to ancianita (Reply #3)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:36 PM

Sep 10

My tv got a Fuck You! as he spoke.

ancianita

(41,897 posts)

6. To make political hay over this murder is bearing false witness. It's wrong no matter what the chyrons say.

Reply to BidenRocks (Reply #4)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:47 PM

Sep 10

No levels of law enforcement even have the killer or murder weapon yet, so media must not amplify any statements about this before all the facts are in.

Skittles

(167,539 posts)

10. the execution is wrong no matter WHAT the motivation

Reply to ancianita (Reply #3)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:49 PM

Sep 10

seriously

ancianita

(41,897 posts)

14. And no matter where.

Reply to Skittles (Reply #10)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 09:02 PM

Sep 10

Utah. Of all places. All the governor had to do was politicize this and now the story fabrication machine is going on in the background for political operatives to use this for more political drama.

UTUSN

(75,745 posts)

5. K&R

Reply to TheProle (Original post)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:41 PM

Sep 10

emiami

(23 posts)

11. Instigating

Reply to UTUSN (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:51 PM

Sep 10

Donald Trump has and is instigating violence in this country. The atmosphere of disturbance and chaos Trump seems to thrive on creates anxiety which permeates society. The negative effects are becoming deadly.

highplainsdem

(58,270 posts)

7. K&R

Reply to TheProle (Original post)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:48 PM

Sep 10

Ping Tung

(3,669 posts)

8. Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. Isaac Asimov

Reply to TheProle (Original post)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:48 PM

Sep 10

Skittles

(167,539 posts)

9. she gets it

Reply to TheProle (Original post)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:49 PM

Sep 10

3825-87867

(1,593 posts)

12. I guess there's a difference

Reply to TheProle (Original post)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:53 PM

Sep 10

between openly killing someone for their political beliefs and rounding up basically innoccent people you THINK are automatically criminals because of their heritage, skin color, language or your own racist views, deriving them of any rights or humane treatment (you enjoy) then sending them to some hell hole of a country (that may have compensated you) to be enslaved, tortured and/or eventually killed there knowing you and your friends had a hand in their deaths.
Doesn't sound that different to me.

myohmy2

(3,677 posts)

13. too late...

Reply to TheProle (Original post)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 09:00 PM

Sep 10

"...but we must never allow America to become a country that confronts those disagreements with violence."

...we're already a country that confronts those disagreements with violence...

...republicans are always laying violence down between the lines of just about everything say...

...just listen...

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