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WhiskeyGrinder

(25,704 posts) Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:21 PM Sep 10

"The best way to honor Charlie's memory is to continue his work"

The best way to honor Charlie's memory is to continue his work: engage with each other, across ideology, through spirited discourse. In a democracy, ideas are tested through words and good-faith debate â€” never through violence.
— Governor Gavin Newsom (@governor.ca.gov) 2025-09-10T22:05:43.192Z

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"The best way to honor Charlie's memory is to continue his work" (Original Post) WhiskeyGrinder Sep 10 OP

stochastic domestic terrorism? bigtree Sep 10 #1

What exactly types of engagement of ideas should we have with racists, bigots, and sexists? Wouldn't that lostincalifornia Sep 10 #2

Well, Newsom had Charlie Kirk on his podcast; maybe Newsom heard some things he liked. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 10 #4

Was anyone's point of view changed? lostincalifornia Sep 10 #10

Nah. Hard PASS. Cha Sep 10 #3

Because preaching hate is always a noble pursuit. Solly Mack Sep 10 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author Chasstev365 Sep 10 #6

Best way to "honor" him is to go piss on his grave. lastlib Sep 10 #7

That is especially lame coming from Gov Newsome Beringia Sep 10 #8

God's Gonna Cut You Down struggle4progress Sep 10 #9

Why honor the memory of someone evil to his core? Irish_Dem Sep 10 #11

Most are missing the point... J_William_Ryan Sep 10 #12

A generous reading, but I don't think he's being ironic. WhiskeyGrinder Sep 10 #13

Hmmm..I detect some sarcasm in his post.. Deuxcents Sep 10 #14

I, um, WTF? LearnedHand Sep 10 #15

bigtree

(92,567 posts)

1. stochastic domestic terrorism?

Reply to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:23 PM

Sep 10

...pass.

lostincalifornia

(4,498 posts)

2. What exactly types of engagement of ideas should we have with racists, bigots, and sexists? Wouldn't that

Reply to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:24 PM

Sep 10

be legitimizing that point of view?

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,704 posts)

4. Well, Newsom had Charlie Kirk on his podcast; maybe Newsom heard some things he liked.

Reply to lostincalifornia (Reply #2)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:26 PM

Sep 10

lostincalifornia

(4,498 posts)

10. Was anyone's point of view changed?

Reply to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #4)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:35 PM

Sep 10

Cha

(314,433 posts)

3. Nah. Hard PASS.

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Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:26 PM

Sep 10

Solly Mack

(95,735 posts)

5. Because preaching hate is always a noble pursuit.

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Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:26 PM

Sep 10

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Chasstev365 This message was self-deleted by its author.

lastlib

(26,712 posts)

7. Best way to "honor" him is to go piss on his grave.

Reply to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:30 PM

Sep 10

I have no intention of honoring the little Nazi race-baiter. We're supposed to speak good of the dead. He's dead---good.

Beringia

(5,198 posts)

8. That is especially lame coming from Gov Newsome

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Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:31 PM

Sep 10

struggle4progress

(124,568 posts)

9. God's Gonna Cut You Down

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Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:33 PM

Sep 10

Irish_Dem

(75,004 posts)

11. Why honor the memory of someone evil to his core?

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Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:35 PM

Sep 10

Who spread vile lies and hatred, endangering the lives of many.

J_William_Ryan

(3,005 posts)

12. Most are missing the point...

Reply to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:38 PM

Sep 10

Newsom is saying Kirk didn’t do any of the things Newsom is noting, knowing who and what Kirk was.

WhiskeyGrinder

(25,704 posts)

13. A generous reading, but I don't think he's being ironic.

Reply to J_William_Ryan (Reply #12)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:40 PM

Sep 10

I knew Charlie, and I admired his passion and commitment to debate. His senseless murder is a reminder of how important it is for all of us, across the political spectrum, to foster genuine discourse on issues that deeply affect us all without resorting to political violence.
— Governor Gavin Newsom (@governor.ca.gov) 2025-09-10T22:05:43.191Z

Deuxcents

(24,075 posts)

14. Hmmm..I detect some sarcasm in his post..

Reply to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:42 PM

Sep 10

LearnedHand

(5,025 posts)

15. I, um, WTF?

Reply to WhiskeyGrinder (Original post)

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:57 PM

Sep 10

I think I get what Newsom’s trying to do here, but he certainly could have tailored that message better. Talk and debate across political beliefs? Okay, I guess. But he didn’t mention a word about the trans hatred or the cavalier belief that people getting shot is the cost of upholding the 2nd amendment. Missed. Opportunity.

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