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Polybius

(20,895 posts)
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:48 PM Sep 10

Very touching post by Gov. Gavin Newsom, showing what a President should look like

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I knew Charlie, and I admired his passion and commitment to debate. His senseless murder is a reminder of how important it is for all of us, across the political spectrum, to foster genuine discourse on issues that deeply affect us all without resorting to political violence.

Governor Gavin Newsom (@governor.ca.gov) 2025-09-10T22:05:43.191Z
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Very touching post by Gov. Gavin Newsom, showing what a President should look like (Original Post) Polybius Sep 10 OP
Thanks. Important statement by Newsom. highplainsdem Sep 10 #1
Dignity, class, and coherence. RockRaven Sep 10 #2
Do not expect TACO Don to respond to Newsom in kind. ProudMNDemocrat Sep 10 #3
One of the many things that he's incapable of. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Sep 10 #13
K&R spanone Sep 10 #4
Turns out he's one hell of a politician and patriot, I have an idea Eliot Rosewater Sep 10 #5
Now I must Codifer Sep 10 #7
She is old enough right now! I think she is 35 now.... n/t Ars Longa Sep 10 #9
You are correct. Oct 13 1989. niyad Sep 10 #10
I wish he had just said "violence" instead of "political violence." subterranean Sep 10 #6
My thought also. Codifer Sep 10 #8
That's right. We don't know anything about ReRe Sep 10 #17
What! No fully capitalized words... Enter stage left Sep 10 #11
I don't agree with violence in this case Keepthesoulalive Sep 10 #12
Condemning violence does NOT give Kirk or "these people" legitimacy Bernardo de La Paz Sep 10 #19
He is speaking about dialogue and debate. Keepthesoulalive Sep 11 #20
THIS is how a real leader reponds Skittles Sep 10 #14
With dignity. n/t ReRe Sep 10 #18
I like his "so me" staff. But this seems somewhat disingenuous to me. littlemissmartypants Sep 10 #15
That's a more reasonable statement Bernardo de La Paz Sep 10 #16

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,254 posts)
3. Do not expect TACO Don to respond to Newsom in kind.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:53 PM
Sep 10

For TACO is incapable of any display of emotions.

littlemissmartypants

(29,864 posts)
13. One of the many things that he's incapable of. ❤️
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:47 PM
Sep 10

Characteristics of Psychopaths

1. Aggressive, callous, and cunning
2. Complete absence of conscience and empathy
3. Very adept at manipulating others
4. Willingness to engage in immoral, criminal conduct
5. Willingness to take what they want and do as they please, regardless of who is hurt or wronged
6. Deceptive ability to appear outwardly benevolent
7. Deceptive ability to behave in superficially charming ways to hide purely selfish motives
8. Willingness to use intimidation and violence to control others in order to satisfy their own needs
9. Willingness to intentionally violate the basic inherent human rights of others
10. Complete absence of any sense of guilt or remorse for the harm their actions have caused to others
11. Rationalization of their own immoral behavior
12. Will attempt to lay blame upon someone else for their own conduct
13. Denial, will deny their own wrongdoing outright
14. Utter contemptuousness toward the feelings and desires of their fellow beings
15. Pathological lying, will say anything without any concern for truth to advance their own hidden agendas
16. Ablity to feign [fake] normal human emotions and empathy
17. Distorted sense of the consequences of their actions
18. Total failure to accept any responsibility for their own socially irresponsible ways
19. Strong bellef that they will never be brought to justice for their criminal behavior

Eliot Rosewater

(34,149 posts)
5. Turns out he's one hell of a politician and patriot, I have an idea
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 08:56 PM
Sep 10

Newsom/Alexandria Ocasio Cortez
2028

subterranean

(3,687 posts)
6. I wish he had just said "violence" instead of "political violence."
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 09:01 PM
Sep 10

We don't know yet if the shooter's motive was political.

ReRe

(11,993 posts)
17. That's right. We don't know anything about
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:16 PM
Sep 10

enemies he might have had in his personal life.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,833 posts)
12. I don't agree with violence in this case
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:37 PM
Sep 10

But I do not condone bigotry ever. Stop giving these people legitimacy. His words are to be condemned or how about remain silent.

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,677 posts)
19. Condemning violence does NOT give Kirk or "these people" legitimacy
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:18 PM
Sep 10

It actually condemns his words because he said gun deaths are to be expected.
It condemns them because we know violence is used to enforce racism and sexism: Kirk racism and sexism included.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,833 posts)
20. He is speaking about dialogue and debate.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 12:01 AM
Sep 11

Kirk was a gaslighter and destroyer of facts, he would twist statistics to make his fans believe something that wasn’t true. As I have said before you don’t give bigots air you shun them. White people have used violence against minorities and they are still doing it. I did not shoot him nor did I want him to be shot, but as Malcolm said the chickens have come home to roost.

Skittles

(167,608 posts)
14. THIS is how a real leader reponds
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:52 PM
Sep 10

(praise of Kirk aside)

THIS is how someone who believes in the rule of law and due process responds.

littlemissmartypants

(29,864 posts)
15. I like his "so me" staff. But this seems somewhat disingenuous to me.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:53 PM
Sep 10

Almost like posturing or maybe jockeying for a position in the headlines. But then I haven't read any other statements on the issue except Elizabeth Warren's and I am leaning more in her direction on the subject.
❤️

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,677 posts)
16. That's a more reasonable statement
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:10 PM
Sep 10

compared to his very badly worded one earlier implying we should "honor" Kirk.

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