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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRefreshing honesty from Elizabeth Warren just now
A journalist asked her about people who say Dems need to tone down their rhetoric: "Oh please. Why don't you start with the president of the United States? And every ugly meme he's posted and every ugly word."
I also have to wonder why journalists are not following Republican Senators around asking about the rhetoric on their side when it is so much worse.

In It to Win It
(11,526 posts)lastlib
(26,674 posts)calling for "second amendment solutions." And she wasn't threatening repuglikans.
DinahMoeHum
(23,161 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 11, 2025, 03:44 PM - Edit history (1)
And I'm sorry that I'm not sorry at what happened.
progressoid
(51,861 posts)
senseandsensibility
(23,758 posts)and good for her. I abhor violence and am against it under any circumstances including this one, but the rush to blame Dems is not coming from an honest place.
newdeal2
(3,962 posts)Certainly not towards Kirk, or really anyone. I doubt Kirk was on any elected Dems mind this morning even.
BS media framing. Focus on the gun problem in this country.
oasis
(52,859 posts)
Its an honor.
skypilot
(9,043 posts)Did they ever show their face?
berniesandersmittens
(12,480 posts)More than once, on live tv and on the internet.
He's called us animals, radicals, terrorists, criminals, nasty, low IQ, scum, aliens, and communists.
Mirror, meet face.
electric_blue68
(23,789 posts)Regarding Drumphf and the filth, and violence he espouses!
Karasu
(2,003 posts)right has said and done for the last 10 fucking years.
The MSM simply couldn't give less of a fuck when there's more money to be made from keeping up this charade and kissing fascist boots.
kentuck
(114,601 posts)For any reason.
Bettie
(18,845 posts)but the press laps it up and asks for more.
spanone
(140,121 posts)ReRe
(11,872 posts)when the media interviews the right wing on camera running down a hall or out in the rain??
Where's the GD liberal fucking media????
What this tells me is that all Democrats need to turn up the rhetoric every time a journalist
sticks a mic in their face and asks a stupid question like that.
And on the floor of the Congress and the Senate!
bagimin
(1,616 posts)always speaks for me.
thought crime
(759 posts)Nothing to apologize for. Trump and his minions have been begging for this. It's what they want.
UTUSN
(75,602 posts)Response to senseandsensibility (Original post)
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Wounded Bear
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yliza
(179 posts)I havent seen anything identifying him, though its possible that I missed it. Its way too early to be casting blame, but of course we all know its just their excuse for doing what theyve always wanted to do, which is to criminalize resistance.
Callie1979
(918 posts)They may have been able to find out about this before it happened.
Bettie
(18,845 posts)and they don't even have to have any college! And shorter training time, so they will be....significantly less competent.
https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/trump-patel-fbi-recruitment-standards-lower-rcna226690
Instead of spending about 18 weeks training at the academy in Quantico, Va., the group of agents, tentatively scheduled to start in October, will receive eight weeks, sources told The Times. The report says this change is being made in response to the projected loss of thousands of agents in September, resulting from early retirements and severance packages some agents have sought as the Trump administration has sought to slash the federal workforce. (The FBI declined to comment to the Times on the reason for the changes.)
The news follows reporting from my colleague Ken Dilanian that the administrations pressure campaign to force top officials out of the FBI, which has disproportionately affected women and people of color, has prompted demands from Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., that the Justice Departments inspector general investigate the matter. Dilanian also reported that the FBI would be reinstating a requirement that all agents be able to perform one strict pullup a requirement that Durbin warned could deplete the number of women agents by 30 percent. Past research has helped bolster this claim.
As for the weakened education and training requirement, there's certainly twisted irony in Trump and his administration breathlessly repeating their bigoted claim that diversity, equity and inclusion policies in the federal government prioritize diversity over merit only for them to lower their own standards in order to replenish the ranks of one of the most essential crime-fighting organizations in the nation.
mnhtnbb
(32,814 posts)and EVERYBODY knows that a white penis contains a secondary source of brain matter. Right?
senseandsensibility
(23,758 posts)and it's now past noon on the Westcoast, but we still do not know who the shooter was. So this "journalist" was just going with a RW narrative and trying to blame Democrats based on nothing. Glad Warren put him or her in their place.
Cha
(314,216 posts)are nothing but robots for their corp masters.
TY & Sen Warren.. perfect reply!
Callie1979
(918 posts)At least I HOPE so
I have a lot of friends who are screaming from the rooftops about this.
NNadir
(36,565 posts)...by its inordinate wealthy owners, the 400 people who own 20% of the nation's wealth.
Autumn
(48,341 posts)Good for her.
senseandsensibility
(23,758 posts)I have to say that I'm disappointed that other Dem leaders don't seem to be able to respond with her clarity.
Midnight Writer
(24,675 posts)Have I just got my head in the sand?
Can anyone cite any instances of this? I'm sure there must be one somewhere, but I can't think of any.
Maybe when a journalist asks about violent liberal rhetoric, we should ask them for examples. If they don't have any, we then provide them with a list of RW calls to violence.
senseandsensibility
(23,758 posts)You know how I can be sure of that? If there was such a case, the corporate media would be running it on a loop 24/7 and stalking every Democratic politician to scold them about it. That's not happening, so it doesn't exist. On the other hand, the media has access to many R's calling for violence that they could be questioning republicans about.
barbtries
(30,749 posts)legacy media is a tool of the right.
I love Independent Media.
Clouds Passing
(5,722 posts)