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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumson MSNBC just showing a graphic that the shot was taken from 520 ft ??
If thats the case, its definitely not a random dude. Military training.

Ponietz
(4,007 posts)Many without military training can hit a target from 175 yards.
Blues Heron
(7,484 posts)bluedigger
(17,318 posts)Military are trained to aim for center of mass (the chest).
joshcryer
(62,529 posts)It looks like it actually bounced off the armor and hit his artery and slide up into his brain.
johnnyfins
(2,832 posts)I saw the closeup one from in front of him. Looked like the bullet went in the right side of his neck and exited the left, hence the blood pouring out.
joshcryer
(62,529 posts)johnnyfins
(2,832 posts)Edits. Wow.
bluedigger
(17,318 posts)Talk about your unintended consequences. Plenty of people survive a shot to the chest.
Abolishinist
(2,736 posts)When I played the video in slo-mo, it looked like his shirt at the collar moved up prior to the bullet wound. Hard to tell due to the time between frames, but it was puzzling to me. This might explain it.
joshcryer
(62,529 posts)I definitely think that's what happened. He wore a light vest from what I read but trying to source this is difficult with all the current event links.
Prairie Gates
(6,207 posts)Could well have been a lucky (for the shooter) accident after a missed headshot.
Chuuku Davis
(598 posts)Anyone in our shooting club could easily make that shot.
There are a LOT of very good non military shooters in the USA.
Renew Deal
(84,455 posts)Last edited Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:36 PM - Edit history (1)
And there is nothing that guarantees former military. It could be a military weapon though.
Wifes husband
(532 posts)If someone was aiming for center mass, they missed by a foot. No one would aim for a neck shot.
There are a million people who could make that shot and not miss
Ponietz
(4,007 posts)And, maybe the shot was intended for center mass and high, or else a head shot that was low.
I agree, probably ex-military, but the shot distance is no extraordinary feat.
joshcryer
(62,529 posts)I will refrain for other aspects of the profile I have in my head but I think it will not be favorable for us on the left and they should be resoundingly denounced.
They could have learned how to do this on the range but this was a very very angry person who had one singular target in mind. I just feel no one would bother without already prior experience. Too much work for a random.
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Renew Deal
(84,455 posts)Just space and practice
drray23
(8,407 posts)at this distance when you dont have a perfect angle and you only have one chance is another level. Most sunday shooters at the range would not be able to do that under pressure.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(2,424 posts)They very easily could have been aiming for the head or chest and lucked out.
drray23
(8,407 posts)But given that they also made a clean escape, its clear its not some random joe. At the very least they carefully prepared for it.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(2,424 posts)Anyone with moderate practice could hit that with irons, even easier with an optic.
D_Master81
(2,183 posts)I have very little gun training but when I was at a friends house shooting with him I hit 10/10 at 100 yards with his AR and scope. Obviously the person isnt just a hack but I doubt someone needs military training to make that shot.