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yellow dahlia

(2,957 posts)
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 09:55 PM Wednesday

Maybe it was a false flag. Just too convenient. This just appeared on the Alternet.

Written by Carl Gibson
September 10, 2025 | 09:31PM ET

'Find each and every one': Trump pledges crackdown on 'radical left political violence'

In a video address to the nation posted to his Truth Social account, President Donald Trump pledged a massive crackdown on "radical left political violence" in the wake of the killing of far-right activist Charlie Kirk.

Even though the gunman responsible for Kirk's death on a Utah college campus remains at large and the motive remains unknown, Trump insisted that the "radical left" was behind the shooting.

/snip/

"My administration will find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity and to other political violence, including the organizations that fund it and support it, as well as those who go after our judges, law enforcement officials and everyone else who brings order to our country," said Trump, who has so far not addressed the pattern of MAGA activists threatening federal judges".

"Radical left political violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken too many lives," he added.

/snip/


Here is the full article:
https://www.alternet.org/trump-crackdown-radical-left/
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Maybe it was a false flag. Just too convenient. This just appeared on the Alternet. (Original Post) yellow dahlia Wednesday OP
sure had a quick response did he not nt msongs Wednesday #1
If it wasn't a false flag.... yellow dahlia Wednesday #3
A day before 9/11 usonian Wednesday #35
Yup. SheltieLover Wednesday #5
He doth protest too much SheltieLover Wednesday #2
Indeed. yellow dahlia Wednesday #7
Hiya! SheltieLover Wednesday #11
Back atcha! yellow dahlia Wednesday #12
I didn't want to post it, just think it, gab13by13 Wednesday #4
Yes he did. yellow dahlia Wednesday #8
Read this SheltieLover Wednesday #9
There's more to this than at first glance. yellow dahlia Wednesday #14
Absofuckingloutely! SheltieLover Wednesday #15
He Was Too Young... DET Wednesday #17
No idea. I was citing a kennedy's post SheltieLover Thursday #47
Wanted to be the R candidate for what in 2024? Wasn't he 31? Not old enough to be POTUS Attilatheblond Wednesday #30
No idea. I was citing a kennedy's post SheltieLover Thursday #46
It boggles the mind! Attilatheblond Thursday #56
It sure does! SheltieLover Thursday #58
He backed off on that, said he didn't want to talk about it anymore. Bev54 Wednesday #32
Like his massive crackdown on radical right political violence after killing of Democratic Minnesota elected politicians Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #6
You noticed... yellow dahlia Wednesday #10
One thing which is believable about a conspiracy theory of that sort is the part where RockRaven Wednesday #13
Kills three birds w/ one stone. yellow dahlia Wednesday #16
Martial law anyone? chicoescuela Wednesday #20
Exactly! yellow dahlia Wednesday #22
Yup canetoad Wednesday #36
Can he name one radical left gunman who shot up a school full of kids? Bayard Wednesday #18
The false flag is the one flying over the White House. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Wednesday #19
Does the USA JBTaurus83 Wednesday #21
Good point yellow dahlia Wednesday #23
So Kirk is alive? Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #24
I haven't seen any reports that he is alive. yellow dahlia Wednesday #25
Well you suggested it was a "false flag" Fiendish Thingy Wednesday #33
And, at present, Charlie Kirk is dead. Abolishinist Thursday #42
The idiot russian agent orange who destroyed order in this country now wants to bring it back, good luck sucker ImNotGod Wednesday #26
Thank you. H2O Man Wednesday #27
However ...... H2O Man Wednesday #29
Almost by definition. PurgedVoter Thursday #61
No. We just live in a very polarizing country where access to firearms is really easy - especially in a state like Utah. Feel Good Inc Wednesday #28
Fuck you Asshole Traitor! We know how you Kill Cha Wednesday #31
Same thoughts myself canetoad Wednesday #34
Who is "Mr. X" This Time? MrWowWow Wednesday #37
It certainly got Epstein out off the front page. The media acting as if it's the Challenger Disaster is concerning. AStern Thursday #38
If the vote on releasing the Epstein files had gone the other way, it would have been huge, so a diversion was needed Doodley Thursday #39
Maybe it was little green men from Mars? tritsofme Thursday #40
until shown otherwise, the shooter was a rightwinger ecstatic Thursday #41
Response from the Oval Office: Rhiannon12866 Thursday #43
We have no idea what the shooter's motivation was iemanja Thursday #44
and everyone else who brings order to our country? Justice matters. Thursday #45
Looking at this from the outside DFW Thursday #48
I think it's likely that this was not politically motivated Buckeyeblue Thursday #57
Mr. Dahlia and I were just making some of the same points. yellow dahlia Thursday #60
I think the Black Bloc did it Charmin One Thursday #49
Fascists believe they have a reason to hate even more. Emile Thursday #50
I think he was supposed to be winged, ala TACO's ear. marble falls Thursday #51
People on the right don't realize . . . Aussie105 Thursday #52
What radical left? Dave Bowman Thursday #53
Oh ya know MaineBlueBear Thursday #55
Turned on Morning Joe at 6am just turned it off at 720am. The single subject doc03 Thursday #54
Exactly. yellow dahlia Thursday #59

yellow dahlia

(2,957 posts)
3. If it wasn't a false flag....
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 09:59 PM
Wednesday

still don't let an opportunity born of "tragedy" pass you by.

gab13by13

(29,730 posts)
4. I didn't want to post it, just think it,
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 09:59 PM
Wednesday

I hope there isn't another Lee Harvey Oswald out there, or will they just claim the shooter was a left wing extremist?

Didn't Kirk also want the Epstein files released?

SheltieLover

(73,546 posts)
47. No idea. I was citing a kennedy's post
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 05:24 AM
Thursday

About something they'd seen on oan.

Clueless here. I didn't even know who kirk was until all this happened.

Attilatheblond

(7,207 posts)
30. Wanted to be the R candidate for what in 2024? Wasn't he 31? Not old enough to be POTUS
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:37 PM
Wednesday

Is Kennedy high again?

SheltieLover

(73,546 posts)
46. No idea. I was citing a kennedy's post
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 05:22 AM
Thursday

& I believe they were talking about what they saw on OAN, so...

Attilatheblond

(7,207 posts)
56. It boggles the mind!
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:08 AM
Thursday

And we all have to jump thru hoops, clog our doctors' offices to get a 'script for Covid jab because a crazy man is running HHS.

Hi back at ya, SheltieLover! Some days, seeing you here is the only saving grace.

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,199 posts)
6. Like his massive crackdown on radical right political violence after killing of Democratic Minnesota elected politicians
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:00 PM
Wednesday

RockRaven

(17,943 posts)
13. One thing which is believable about a conspiracy theory of that sort is the part where
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:03 PM
Wednesday

Kirk is chosen as expendable by TPTB.

yellow dahlia

(2,957 posts)
16. Kills three birds w/ one stone.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 10:06 PM
Wednesday

Steals the narrative.

Eliminates him as a foil re: Epstein and other things.

Sets up the excuse to go after the supposed radical left.

Fiendish Thingy

(20,691 posts)
33. Well you suggested it was a "false flag"
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:48 PM
Wednesday

Are you suggesting it was an internal MAGA hit job to sacrifice Kirk for the good of the MAGA cause?

Kooky.

Abolishinist

(2,736 posts)
42. And, at present, Charlie Kirk is dead.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 12:32 AM
Thursday

I'm implying, simply that, at present, Charlie Kirk is not alive.





ImNotGod

(1,067 posts)
26. The idiot russian agent orange who destroyed order in this country now wants to bring it back, good luck sucker
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:17 PM
Wednesday

you unleashed a monster just like the supreme fascist court did.

H2O Man

(77,891 posts)
27. Thank you.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:22 PM
Wednesday

It might turn out to be a "leftist," though the maga definition of "left" is rather inclusive, with moderates who disagree with the president being so identified. It might be a tall person, or a short person. They may like country music, or possible rock. We do not know. It might even be a foreign mechanic killing three birds with one shot.

PurgedVoter

(2,601 posts)
61. Almost by definition.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 12:03 PM
Thursday

I agree that that is what they will say if it is a young white republican, but I would argue that anyone who is a young white republican is far enough on a spectrum to be called mentally ill.

Feel Good Inc

(57 posts)
28. No. We just live in a very polarizing country where access to firearms is really easy - especially in a state like Utah.
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:24 PM
Wednesday

We're also a country that does not prioritize mental health and fetishizes guns. Honestly, I am surprised this didn't happen earlier.

Cha

(314,213 posts)
31. Fuck you Asshole Traitor! We know how you Kill
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:40 PM
Wednesday

People Without Any Fucking Evidence.

Fucking Asshole

canetoad

(19,428 posts)
34. Same thoughts myself
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:51 PM
Wednesday

It must have been disappointing not to have riots in Chicago, so Charlie needed to go?

AStern

(490 posts)
38. It certainly got Epstein out off the front page. The media acting as if it's the Challenger Disaster is concerning.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 12:04 AM
Thursday

nt

Doodley

(11,310 posts)
39. If the vote on releasing the Epstein files had gone the other way, it would have been huge, so a diversion was needed
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 12:18 AM
Thursday

ecstatic

(34,916 posts)
41. until shown otherwise, the shooter was a rightwinger
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 12:21 AM
Thursday

If we had the leftwing radicals that trump keeps insisting we have, things would be very different in this country.

iemanja

(56,666 posts)
44. We have no idea what the shooter's motivation was
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 12:48 AM
Thursday

and we won’t unless he’s apprehended or identified. That Trump and the MAGAs are blaming the left is just what they do. Saying it’s a false flag assumes a motivation to counter. We have to know the motivation before dreaming up alternate scenarios.

Justice matters.

(8,848 posts)
45. and everyone else who brings order to our country?
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 02:08 AM
Thursday

Pedo Felon wants to crackdown on everyone "who brings order"

Sure does all he can for that. Look at the "disorder" everywhere...

DFW

(58,862 posts)
48. Looking at this from the outside
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 06:06 AM
Thursday

Although this guy Kirk was preaching to a substantial choir, at the end of the day, that’s all he was preaching. With hate rhetoric as thick as his, it’s rather obvious he was stirring up a frenzy among his own followers for his own benefit. We have a few people like that, but they don’t go around preaching righteous violence like the radical right does. There are control freaks, and then there are control freaks. The more powerful and influential a control freak gets, the more jealousy builds up within the movement’s own ranks (I’m thinking Trotsky vs. Stalin as an example). The American radical right is the gun-worshipping crowd in America, not the left. Sure, plenty of us own guns. The number of us that worship those guns or have basements stocked with dozens of them and a thousand rounds of ammunition are practically zero.

The extremist right wants to find a perp among the ranks of the left, but NOT because they really expect to find him there. Frankly, despite his noise, I wouldn’t honor him with having been worth the effort. This hit was well-planned, and the getaway flawless (so far, anyway). This sounds like someone is setting some up to take the fall because the people who set it up do NOT want the shooter found alive. He might have some stories to tell that a few Trumpanzees do not want told publicly.

Of course, I could be wrong anout all this, and it was just some highly intelligent, well armed 19 year old in a Che Guevara T-shirt. But it just doesn’t smell like it.

Buckeyeblue

(6,002 posts)
57. I think it's likely that this was not politically motivated
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:10 AM
Thursday

I agree with those who say that this murder seems professionally done. It's more like a hit. The person or persons who orchestrated this have Kirk's rhetoric as a cover. I'm guessing this is going to end up being about money. Who all was he in bed with?

yellow dahlia

(2,957 posts)
60. Mr. Dahlia and I were just making some of the same points.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 11:48 AM
Thursday

Well executed.

A set up to blame the left.

Will the perp be found? And if found will he be alive? I doubt it.

The left are not the radicals.

Who benefits?

Charmin One

(313 posts)
49. I think the Black Bloc did it
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 06:15 AM
Thursday

The shooter was wearing all black. His head might have been covered too.

Emile

(37,345 posts)
50. Fascists believe they have a reason to hate even more.
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 06:42 AM
Thursday

Always playing the victim, just like their dear leader.

Aussie105

(7,184 posts)
52. People on the right don't realize . . .
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 07:05 AM
Thursday

that some of their extremist rhetoric is considered immoral and destructive of American values.
And someone or a group of people are prepared to take extreme measures to voice their horror.
(Remind you of any current popular TV shows and films? I can name quite a few!)

Assuming there will be no backlash now and down the track is just stupid.
Donald, take notice!

This incident transcends politics.

MaineBlueBear

(286 posts)
55. Oh ya know
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 07:30 AM
Thursday

People that want clean air, water, food, and healthcare, education, and a social safety net for all.

Radicals...

doc03

(38,358 posts)
54. Turned on Morning Joe at 6am just turned it off at 720am. The single subject
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 07:25 AM
Thursday

has been Charlie Kirk. I haven't heard about Epstein or the Russian attack on Poland. It
may not be a false flag but it is sure working as another shiny object for the news media to chase.

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