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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMaybe it was a false flag. Just too convenient. This just appeared on the Alternet.
Written by Carl Gibson
September 10, 2025 | 09:31PM ET
'Find each and every one': Trump pledges crackdown on 'radical left political violence'
Even though the gunman responsible for Kirk's death on a Utah college campus remains at large and the motive remains unknown, Trump insisted that the "radical left" was behind the shooting.
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"My administration will find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity and to other political violence, including the organizations that fund it and support it, as well as those who go after our judges, law enforcement officials and everyone else who brings order to our country," said Trump, who has so far not addressed the pattern of MAGA activists threatening federal judges".
"Radical left political violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken too many lives," he added.
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Here is the full article:
https://www.alternet.org/trump-crackdown-radical-left/

msongs
(72,330 posts)yellow dahlia
(2,957 posts)still don't let an opportunity born of "tragedy" pass you by.
usonian
(20,313 posts)
SheltieLover
(73,546 posts)🤔
yellow dahlia
(2,957 posts)SheltieLover
(73,546 posts)
yellow dahlia
(2,957 posts)
gab13by13
(29,730 posts)I hope there isn't another Lee Harvey Oswald out there, or will they just claim the shooter was a left wing extremist?
Didn't Kirk also want the Epstein files released?
yellow dahlia
(2,957 posts)A little too convenient, I would say.
SheltieLover
(73,546 posts)And a kennedy's rexent post to turn on OAN. According to that post, Kirk wanted to be rethug candidate in 2024.

yellow dahlia
(2,957 posts)SheltieLover
(73,546 posts)
DET
(2,202 posts)
to run for President. Need to be 36; he was 31.
SheltieLover
(73,546 posts)About something they'd seen on oan.
Clueless here. I didn't even know who kirk was until all this happened.
Attilatheblond
(7,207 posts)Is Kennedy high again?
SheltieLover
(73,546 posts)& I believe they were talking about what they saw on OAN, so...
Attilatheblond
(7,207 posts)And we all have to jump thru hoops, clog our doctors' offices to get a 'script for Covid jab because a crazy man is running HHS.
Hi back at ya, SheltieLover! Some days, seeing you here is the only saving grace.
SheltieLover
(73,546 posts)Awww, ty!
Bev54
(12,847 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(58,199 posts)yellow dahlia
(2,957 posts)RockRaven
(17,943 posts)Kirk is chosen as expendable by TPTB.
yellow dahlia
(2,957 posts)Steals the narrative.
Eliminates him as a foil re: Epstein and other things.
Sets up the excuse to go after the supposed radical left.
chicoescuela
(2,293 posts)yellow dahlia
(2,957 posts)And look at his fan base. An army of Rittenhouses.
Bayard
(26,919 posts)RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(1,027 posts)JBTaurus83
(642 posts)Even have a radical left? He would really shit his pants in Europe.
yellow dahlia
(2,957 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(20,691 posts)Kooky.
yellow dahlia
(2,957 posts)Who is saying that?
Fiendish Thingy
(20,691 posts)Are you suggesting it was an internal MAGA hit job to sacrifice Kirk for the good of the MAGA cause?
Kooky.
Abolishinist
(2,736 posts)I'm implying, simply that, at present, Charlie Kirk is not alive.
ImNotGod
(1,067 posts)you unleashed a monster just like the supreme fascist court did.
H2O Man
(77,891 posts)It might turn out to be a "leftist," though the maga definition of "left" is rather inclusive, with moderates who disagree with the president being so identified. It might be a tall person, or a short person. They may like country music, or possible rock. We do not know. It might even be a foreign mechanic killing three birds with one shot.
H2O Man
(77,891 posts)if it was a young white republican, he was mentally ill.
PurgedVoter
(2,601 posts)I agree that that is what they will say if it is a young white republican, but I would argue that anyone who is a young white republican is far enough on a spectrum to be called mentally ill.
Feel Good Inc
(57 posts)We're also a country that does not prioritize mental health and fetishizes guns. Honestly, I am surprised this didn't happen earlier.
Cha
(314,213 posts)People Without Any Fucking Evidence.
Fucking Asshole
canetoad
(19,428 posts)It must have been disappointing not to have riots in Chicago, so Charlie needed to go?
MrWowWow
(1,102 posts)AStern
(490 posts)nt
Doodley
(11,310 posts)tritsofme
(19,505 posts)Maybe its Maybelline?
ecstatic
(34,916 posts)If we had the leftwing radicals that trump keeps insisting we have, things would be very different in this country.
Rhiannon12866
(242,508 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/132156188
iemanja
(56,666 posts)and we wont unless hes apprehended or identified. That Trump and the MAGAs are blaming the left is just what they do. Saying its a false flag assumes a motivation to counter. We have to know the motivation before dreaming up alternate scenarios.
Justice matters.
(8,848 posts)Pedo Felon wants to crackdown on everyone "who brings order"
Sure does all he can for that. Look at the "disorder" everywhere...
DFW
(58,862 posts)Although this guy Kirk was preaching to a substantial choir, at the end of the day, thats all he was preaching. With hate rhetoric as thick as his, its rather obvious he was stirring up a frenzy among his own followers for his own benefit. We have a few people like that, but they dont go around preaching righteous violence like the radical right does. There are control freaks, and then there are control freaks. The more powerful and influential a control freak gets, the more jealousy builds up within the movements own ranks (Im thinking Trotsky vs. Stalin as an example). The American radical right is the gun-worshipping crowd in America, not the left. Sure, plenty of us own guns. The number of us that worship those guns or have basements stocked with dozens of them and a thousand rounds of ammunition are practically zero.
The extremist right wants to find a perp among the ranks of the left, but NOT because they really expect to find him there. Frankly, despite his noise, I wouldnt honor him with having been worth the effort. This hit was well-planned, and the getaway flawless (so far, anyway). This sounds like someone is setting some up to take the fall because the people who set it up do NOT want the shooter found alive. He might have some stories to tell that a few Trumpanzees do not want told publicly.
Of course, I could be wrong anout all this, and it was just some highly intelligent, well armed 19 year old in a Che Guevara T-shirt. But it just doesnt smell like it.
Buckeyeblue
(6,002 posts)I agree with those who say that this murder seems professionally done. It's more like a hit. The person or persons who orchestrated this have Kirk's rhetoric as a cover. I'm guessing this is going to end up being about money. Who all was he in bed with?
yellow dahlia
(2,957 posts)Well executed.
A set up to blame the left.
Will the perp be found? And if found will he be alive? I doubt it.
The left are not the radicals.
Who benefits?
Charmin One
(313 posts)The shooter was wearing all black. His head might have been covered too.
Emile
(37,345 posts)Always playing the victim, just like their dear leader.
marble falls
(68,277 posts)Aussie105
(7,184 posts)that some of their extremist rhetoric is considered immoral and destructive of American values.
And someone or a group of people are prepared to take extreme measures to voice their horror.
(Remind you of any current popular TV shows and films? I can name quite a few!)
Assuming there will be no backlash now and down the track is just stupid.
Donald, take notice!
This incident transcends politics.
Dave Bowman
(5,791 posts)MaineBlueBear
(286 posts)People that want clean air, water, food, and healthcare, education, and a social safety net for all.
Radicals...
doc03
(38,358 posts)has been Charlie Kirk. I haven't heard about Epstein or the Russian attack on Poland. It
may not be a false flag but it is sure working as another shiny object for the news media to chase.
yellow dahlia
(2,957 posts)Kind of convenient.