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B.See

(6,689 posts)
Wed Sep 10, 2025, 11:09 PM Sep 10

Trump's DOJ Lied About the Guatamalan Children (OF COURSE)

(I posted this to a previous thread of mine re same, but maybe it deserves its own thread)

In spite of the onslaught of developments unpredictable and some, no doubt, deliberate, the real and consequential horrors of Trump's maladministration are still a reality, and are still playing out behind the din.

One being the story of the attempted disappearance of hundreds of Guatamalan children, loaded aboard airplanes in Texas in the dead of night, for destinations unknown (Guatamala, they said).

The Trump administration's cover story being that it was done at the request of their families.

Only, as it turns out, that too was bullshit:

DOJ backs off claims about Guatemalan children it sought to deport - POLITICO via MSN

The Trump administration backed off claims Wednesday that hundreds of Guatemalan children it attempted to send to the country last month — before a judge blocked the abrupt weekend deportations — had been requested to return by their parents.

A Justice Department attorney acknowledged that the government’s earlier claims had no factual basis and in fact had been contradicted by a review by the Guatemalan government. That review indicated that parents for most of the children could not be located, and those who were largely suggested they wanted their children to remain in the United States for economic opportunities.

The report from Guatemala’s attorney general — filed with the court this week by lawyers representing the children — said none of the families who could be found actually sought the return of their kids. About half the families contacted “expressed annoyance when this Office went to their residences, rejecting the request to conduct an assessment, sometimes in an intimidating manner.”


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Trump's DOJ Lied About the Guatamalan Children (OF COURSE) (Original Post) B.See Sep 10 OP
What age children are we talking about. ? 6 or 16? Srkdqltr Sep 11 #1
Here's the original story: B.See Sep 11 #3
Lies ordered by the same clown who alleged Torchlight Sep 11 #2
Deadline: Legal Blog--Trump-appointed judge says administration's court claim 'crumbled like a house of cards' LetMyPeopleVote Friday #4
Thanks for the update, LMPV. Not B.See Friday #5
Punishing and putting children in danger is simply wrong LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #6
It's also the MAGA way B.See Saturday #7

Torchlight

(5,696 posts)
2. Lies ordered by the same clown who alleged
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 09:19 AM
Sep 11

transnational gangs were being imported from Venezuela. Lots of bullshit from the administration, served with a few helpings of chickenshit by his minions.

LetMyPeopleVote

(169,950 posts)
4. Deadline: Legal Blog--Trump-appointed judge says administration's court claim 'crumbled like a house of cards'
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 06:59 PM
Friday

A judge appointed by the president in his first term said a government claim in seeking to send children to Guatemala “turned out not to be true.”

Trump-appointed judge says administration’s court claim ‘crumbled like a house of cards’

Ruth Ghiorzi (@ladyruth4u.bsky.social) 2025-09-19T18:35:21Z

https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-house/deadline-legal-blog/trump-judge-send-children-guatemala-immigration-rcna232405

A legal theme of President Donald Trump’s second term is judges not being able to trust his administration’s statements in court. This theme has been especially pronounced in immigration-related cases, where the government has taken some of its most aggressive and lawbreaking stances.

It’s against this backdrop that one of Trump’s own judicial appointees said Thursday that an official explanation offered in court “crumbled like a house of cards.”......

His 43-page opinion contains haunting details, including excerpts of declarations from some of the children who warned of dangerous fates that would await them. One of them said “the conditions she would return to in Guatemala would cause her to kill herself,” Kelly wrote.

The judge’s stern accounting wasn’t limited to the “house of cards” remark. He wrote elsewhere that Trump officials “misstate the legal standard” and that their conduct in deeming children eligible for sending to Guatemala suggested “that they are not applying their criteria accurately, consistently, or in ways that reflect good faith.” He further criticized the “rushed, seemingly error-laden operation to send unaccompanied alien children back to their home countries,” calling it one of the things that federal law seeks to prevent.

The judge wrote that officials’ conduct doesn’t “inspire confidence that they themselves are convinced that they have the authority to proceed as they would like.” If they were convinced of their authority, the judge wondered, then “why exercise it in the middle of the night on a holiday weekend with nothing but a late-night (or early-morning) notice to the children’s caretakers and advocates?”

Why, indeed.

At a time when the administration is bending or breaking the law across various facets of American life, Kelly’s ruling is a reminder that at least some judges have served as a bulwark, and that they stand ready to apply the law to lawless government actions when they’re challenged in court.

B.See

(6,689 posts)
5. Thanks for the update, LMPV. Not
Fri Sep 19, 2025, 11:18 PM
Friday

Last edited Sat Sep 20, 2025, 01:36 PM - Edit history (1)

that it comes as any surprise that Trump, his acolytes, and his maladminístration are a bunch of lying, criminal pieces of shit.

Including when it comes to the lives and WELFARE of CHILDREN...

whether they be Guatamalan children to be spirited off in the dead of night, child victims of gun violence and school shootings,

right wing silence re tens of thousands of abducted Ukrainian children or Gazan children being murdered and living in famine,

or the estimated 40 million children projected to die from Trump's dismantling of USAID and the projected torching of stockpiles of food awaiting delivery,

or even American children, being put in harm's way because of MAGA efforts to reject child nutrition and free lunch programs, cut food benefits,

oppose sensible gun control laws, kill regulations on environmental pollution, reject federal funds for disaster mitigation, undermine healthcare,

and vilify vaccines that have been proven safe and effective for decades.

In effect and in spite of all their pretense at concern for the unborn, A MAGA WAR UPON CHILDREN.

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