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werdna

(1,102 posts)
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:12 AM Yesterday

About that video of CK shooter climbing off roof -

- where's the rifle. One of the persons at the briefing indicated that he climbed down, walked about twenty yards, crossed a street, then headed off for the wooded area where the FBI found the suspected weapon - while the video clearly shows him with no rifle in hand. Did he toss it into the wooded area from the opposite side of the building before climbing down? An incredible feat of strength and precision! Or was this individual a spotter for the actual shooter?

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About that video of CK shooter climbing off roof - (Original Post) werdna Yesterday OP
He's also not a danger to the community apparently newdeal2 Yesterday #1
Good question. No answer. OAITW r.2.0 Yesterday #2
The obvious answer is magical thinking and time travel. According to 'Q' of course. littlemissmartypants Yesterday #12
Agree, noway the guy climbing off the building in the video had a long rifle with him. still-prayin4rain Yesterday #3
And, as you say, he WALKED across the street! Totally Tunsie Yesterday #9
From the video markodochartaigh Yesterday #4
An "imported Mauser .30-06 bolt action rifle" can quickly be broken down to be small? still-prayin4rain Yesterday #6
I heard that they had also found a screwdriver markodochartaigh Yesterday #11
An older model is what the NY Times said all yesterday afternoon! Prairie Gates Yesterday #16
When did he break down the gun? Prairie Gates Yesterday #18
Yes. Feel Good Inc Yesterday #20
Is that right? Prairie Gates Yesterday #22
lol not true obamanut2012 Yesterday #24
Yes. Kirk was shot at 12:21 or 12:22 the video shows the person dropping from the roof at 12:24ish Feel Good Inc Yesterday #25
Yes markodochartaigh Yesterday #31
If no other explanation, loosen a screw or two and the rifle fits in a backpack. Silent Type Yesterday #5
Well, I have not seen the video, but is it possible he simply dropped it from the roof before climbing down? AZJonnie Yesterday #7
People don't seem to look for the simple explanations first, like they tossed it off out of sight of the video. Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #13
I don't understand your first point Prairie Gates Yesterday #17
I finally got a chance to see the video Bernardo de La Paz Yesterday #19
So they didn't toss it off the roof? Prairie Gates Yesterday #23
He left the gun. Patel's charges are searching for the cannoli. usonian Yesterday #8
😆 The... littlemissmartypants Yesterday #14
Somebody shot Calvin Klein? Oeditpus Rex Yesterday #10
I chuckled, I'm a big BTTF fan fujiyamasan Yesterday #15
The resolution is so bad you can barely tell its there. But there does appear to be BootinUp Yesterday #21
Look closer. He's carrying the weapon and drops when he falls to the ground. Then he picks it up OLDMDDEM Yesterday #26
yes, the video I saw clearly shows that Celerity Yesterday #28
yes, the video I saw clearly shows that Celerity Yesterday #29
Carrying a rifle in Utah apparently is no big thing Bmoboy Yesterday #27
As with the trump "assassination attempt," I imagine there will be many such questions that are never answered. Scrivener7 Yesterday #30

newdeal2

(3,962 posts)
1. He's also not a danger to the community apparently
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:22 AM
Yesterday

How do they know this?!?!

Don’t ask questions because they don’t have answers and seem to be in no rush except to condemn the left.

OAITW r.2.0

(30,578 posts)
2. Good question. No answer.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:24 AM
Yesterday

When I saw the vid of the guy on the roof, I thought. wait the gun was in the woods...so how does this work? Waiting for the Trump FBI to explain my lying eyes.

still-prayin4rain

(446 posts)
3. Agree, noway the guy climbing off the building in the video had a long rifle with him.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:25 AM
Yesterday

And who was moving the camera to follow him as he walked across the street? I'm so confused by the video.

Totally Tunsie

(11,163 posts)
9. And, as you say, he WALKED across the street!
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:56 AM
Yesterday

He initially ran from the building but soon slowed down to a walk before waiting to cross the street. Didn't seem like he was in any hurry to get away. Was he just trying to appear "normal" and not bring attention to himself?

markodochartaigh

(3,906 posts)
4. From the video
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:26 AM
Yesterday

I saw it looked like he had something in his hand that could have been a rifle broken down and covered with a blanket. You can see it as he jumps off the roof.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-12/manhunt-underway-for-charlie-kirk-trump-ally-shot-and-killed/105765746

still-prayin4rain

(446 posts)
6. An "imported Mauser .30-06 bolt action rifle" can quickly be broken down to be small?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:31 AM
Yesterday

Last edited Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:09 AM - Edit history (1)

On edit: I found a zoomed in version of the video and I can kind of see it now.

markodochartaigh

(3,906 posts)
11. I heard that they had also found a screwdriver
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:38 AM
Yesterday

with the gun. I guess to break the gun down. And nobody seems to mention that if we had tighter gun control the number on the gun would probably have led to the shooter's name by now.

Prairie Gates

(6,211 posts)
16. An older model is what the NY Times said all yesterday afternoon!
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:38 AM
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An older model Mauser 30 06.

Under that flappy blanket?

Come on, now.

Prairie Gates

(6,211 posts)
18. When did he break down the gun?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:45 AM
Yesterday

He flees immediately after the shooting. He fired one shot, then broke down the older model Mauser with a screwdriver, then ran across the roof with the broken down rifle under a blanket or in the backpack?

This is the sequence? He fires one shot, then takes the time to break down the rifle, then runs away?

 

Feel Good Inc

(66 posts)
20. Yes.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:41 AM
Yesterday

Apparently the footage picks up close to three minutes after the shooting. So, he was doing something I assume.

Prairie Gates

(6,211 posts)
22. Is that right?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:48 AM
Yesterday

He sat in the shooting spot for three full minutes before running off?

Fascinating.

 

Feel Good Inc

(66 posts)
25. Yes. Kirk was shot at 12:21 or 12:22 the video shows the person dropping from the roof at 12:24ish
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:00 AM
Yesterday

AZJonnie

(1,423 posts)
7. Well, I have not seen the video, but is it possible he simply dropped it from the roof before climbing down?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:32 AM
Yesterday

Also it seems a little silly to even take the rifle off the roof at all. Surely he could not believed that stashing it in bushes a very short distance from the school was going to result in it never being found. Plus every second you are in possession of the weapon increases the chances you are identified, and perhaps shot. It also slows down your escape. In these circumstance leaving it where you fired from is the best play.

So at best all that is really at stake here is the possibility that the FBI has misinformed us WRT where the rifle was actually found, which they're not obligated to be truthful about anyway, esp. not with the shooter still at large

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,217 posts)
13. People don't seem to look for the simple explanations first, like they tossed it off out of sight of the video.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 03:01 AM
Yesterday

But another simple explanation is that they are an amateur, like not using gloves.

Taking it off the roof has the advantage that it delays discovery of the weapon and the clues it will inevitably contain.

Prairie Gates

(6,211 posts)
17. I don't understand your first point
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:41 AM
Yesterday

"they tossed it off out of sight of the video."

The video shows the gunman running from the shooting site, immediately climbing down from the roof and then departing from the area. The gun was found in woods between the campus and the adjoining neighborhood, in the direction in which the roof jumper was fleeing. The gun would have had to have been with him 1) as he jumped and 2) as he fled toward the weapon dump site.

What do you mean "they tossed it off out of sight of the video?" The video captures the whole sequence of his departure.

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,217 posts)
19. I finally got a chance to see the video
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:31 AM
Yesterday

What's the fuss? It seems pretty clear to me he has something long with him as he gets to the edge of the roof. He puts it down, still holding it as he backs around to get his feet over the edge. Still holding it he falls. As he walks away he is still holding it.

Prairie Gates

(6,211 posts)
23. So they didn't toss it off the roof?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:02 AM
Yesterday

Yes, I think everyone sees the thing you're seeing now that you've actually watched the video. It's that some people don't really see what he's carrying as a rifle. Now, you do see it as a rifle, and obviously so. That's great. Your "Yeah it is!" response is now recorded.

usonian

(20,321 posts)
8. He left the gun. Patel's charges are searching for the cannoli.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:56 AM
Yesterday

Trained cannoli hounds are on the case.



People, THIS IS NOT AI!

It was taken with a SONY ILCE-7.

littlemissmartypants

(29,674 posts)
14. 😆 The...
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 03:06 AM
Yesterday

Athletic trainer, pictured left, is about to explain to the Trained cannoli hound ( Level 10+++) expert, pictured R, the exact number of personal tail chases it will take once the sniff test is completed and the cannoli is located to work off those calories which the expert will likely soon forget. They have a 300% cannoli location success rate, obviously.

🤭😉

BootinUp

(50,362 posts)
21. The resolution is so bad you can barely tell its there. But there does appear to be
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:43 AM
Yesterday

a long object covered by some other garment if you look carefully.

OLDMDDEM

(2,703 posts)
26. Look closer. He's carrying the weapon and drops when he falls to the ground. Then he picks it up
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:02 AM
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and runs off.

Bmoboy

(533 posts)
27. Carrying a rifle in Utah apparently is no big thing
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:11 AM
Yesterday

Walking with a rifle across an intersection that should be filled with ambulances, cops, and fleeing students ...

Wait, now I see how Q works.

Where's a grassy knoll when you need one?

Scrivener7

(57,096 posts)
30. As with the trump "assassination attempt," I imagine there will be many such questions that are never answered.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:18 AM
Yesterday
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