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AZJonnie

(1,423 posts)
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:03 AM Friday

Because a seemingly long amount of time has passed for a suspect to be at large in a case like this

I decided to look into how long Luigi Mangione avoided capture, and how he managed it. Here's what perplexity had to say about it:

Luigi Mangione was at large for about five days after the December 4, 2024, shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New York City. He was arrested on December 9, 2024, in Altoona, Pennsylvania.

How did he avoid capture for that long?

Mangione meticulously planned his escape, arriving in New York City by bus to avoid airport scrutiny, using cash for hotels and travel, and employing fake IDs to cover his trail.

Immediately after the attack, Mangione fled the scene on an electric bike, which he abandoned in Central Park. He then used a taxi, various forms of public transit (including subway and trains), and interstate buses to leave New York for Philadelphia and then Pittsburgh, before making his way to Altoona.

Mangione wore masks, changed his appearance, and avoided digital footprints, making extensive use of anonymized methods for payments and transportation.

His escape ultimately failed when a McDonald's employee in Altoona recognized him from widely publicized suspect images and alerted authorities, leading to his capture.

Despite careful advance planning, Mangione’s freedom ended due to public tip-offs and coordinated law enforcement efforts publicized through surveillance images.


I was like, damn, dude was organized, I either never knew or didn't remember his entrance and escape was so elaborately planned. I also thought, given the high profile (and recent) nature of that case, that whoever did the Kirk deed may very well have read up on how Mangione got away because his means were pretty effective, for such a high profile slaying, 5 days is pretty long.

Some of Luigi's steps, however, would not be available in smalltown Utah, such as the availability of a lot of public transit, and being able to blend into a cities of millions of people. So those are to the Kirk killers disadvantage, but what works to his advantage is there's a lot fewer cameras in smalltown Utah, vs. NYC, and they're likely of lower quality. In fact, Mangione was ID'd by name, and quality photos released to the public by the next day (relatively sooner than it is now) because of all the cameras. That may not happen for a bit in this kids case.

Luigi stayed on the lamb for 4 more days primarily I think because he got the F outta dodge, and went someplace somewhat remote, where people would be less likely to be looking for him, and he travelled by bus.

My thinking is, if he tried to follow the Mangione plan, he would head someplace he has no ties (as Mangione did), on a bus. He probably wouldn't risk taking a bus from Orem, just a couple miles from the campus, esp. as buses leave there a few times a day, not a few times an hour like SLC. Thus, consider he may've driven to SLC because its only 45 mins away, buses would leave from there a lot more often than from Orem, and there would be a lot more destinations possible from there, and he could be more anonymous in the big city.

So there you go, Kash, there's some tips, since you maybe don't know what the hell you're doing. Focus on SLC bus and train station(s). And remember, everybody has to eat, which is how Mangione got caught. Check the footage in the cheap eats places near the SLC stations
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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(11,144 posts)
1. Travis Decker has escaoed capture for 3 months
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:12 AM
Friday

Update on the Search for Travis Decker — FBI https://share.google/glUvXDZCsd8ukX3hA


Update on the Search for Travis Decker
YAKIMA, Washington—The following statement may be attributed to W. Mike Herrington, special agent in charge of the FBI Seattle field office:

On August 25 and 26, FBI Seattle and partners participated in a two-day grid search operation within the vicinity of the Rock Island Campground near Leavenworth, Washington. During the search, personnel recovered multiple bones, including those that required additional examination to determine if they were animal or human. Central Washington University has reviewed the bones and assessed that they are not human.

While we do not anticipate further updates related to this specific search, the investigation continues. This extensive search was just one step in a three-month process by a variety of agencies to locate Travis Decker, discover signs of his whereabouts, or find any other evidence of the murder of his three daughters. In two days, the search team cleared almost 250 acres by carefully covering rough terrain on foot, and further efforts can build on the knowledge we gained through the electronic mapping of the area.

FBI Seattle is committed to our continued collaboration with the Chelan County Sheriff’s Office, the U.S. Marshals Service, the U.S. Forest Service, and other partners to locate Decker and are committed to bringing every available FBI resource that will advance this case for as long as it takes. If we have an update on this case, we will share as soon as we are able. Also check for updates from the Chelan County Sheriff’s Office or the U.S. Marshals Service.

AZJonnie

(1,423 posts)
3. I'm not saying Mangione is some kind of record for this but everyone knows about him
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:40 AM
Friday

And knows he wasn't caught for a relatively long time. And it was a similar crime, unlike Decker's. Also, nobody could research how Decker did it, because he's still hidden (if I'm reading you right).

usonian

(20,329 posts)
2. I read somewhere on DU that there's a nearby airport and that a private plane left
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:17 AM
Friday

headed for Mexico. Transponder went silent.

I am/was too busy/tired to verify, so, FWIW.
Or not.

I made tomato sauce tonight. Everything in the stores is like wet cardboard. First things first.

CIAO.

BadgerMom

(3,309 posts)
4. There's wilderness all along the Wasatch front.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 04:33 AM
Friday

If he hunted, he likely camped. Additionally, there are cabins scattered throughout the mountains and canyons. Elizabeth Smart’s kidnappers hid in the mountains relatively close to SLC. My husband’s family is in SLC and I’ve thought the shooter likely found a way to get to the mountains and disappear. I believe the Atlanta Olympic bomber evaded authorities by hiding in the wilderness as well.

LudwigPastorius

(13,367 posts)
5. Not to be THAT guy, but...
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 04:40 AM
Friday

the idiom is “on the lam”.

The other spelling makes it seem like he escaped astride the back of a sheep.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,602 posts)
8. I don't know that he did anything at all.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 05:47 AM
Friday

You’re speaking as if this is irrefutable.

And why try to help these fascists?

JI7

(92,583 posts)
9. I think they assume the suspects would be non white
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 05:51 AM
Friday

It's the same during the Trump rally shooting. They see white men with guns and see them as one of them.

It would only be seen as a possible threat if they were non white.

I saw a student say they had tickets for the event but they didn't check and anyone was able to come in.

They thought it's not a blue state and it's mostly a white place so it will be safe unlike the places they are sending national guard and others.

Kaleva

(39,888 posts)
10. He could have drove his car home to eat
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:55 AM
Friday

Until there’s evidence at the scene that leads to him or someone who knows him reports to the authorities he is the person of interest, the shooter could be hiding in plain sight.

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