= RW nutter

Sounds like we now know why Trump was subdued in his announcement.

And Trump himself https://www.reddit.com/r/thedavidpakmanshow/s/yeO5YrJADT

very somber, reserved and as usual....wrong. Of course he'll never admit it and has already babbled about 'both sides' being in the wrong. Such a POS

But the jnfo should come out in a few hours.

Early minutes, so all info is grain of salt.

Also go to the Trump interview

That seems so unlikely that I don't feel like sitting through an interview of the Worst Person in the World. I'd also think that if Trump had said something so damning about Republicans, more people would have talked about it.

But in this upside down insane world we now live in it won’t matter it will still be the fault of the left.

"Turn on the TV" is a particularly useless bit of advice for me in the UK (and would be for many DUers in the USA too - who might be at work, for instance); but I still don't think that all of the TV news channels are currently reporting the suspect is a Republican - seeing as only one DUer has said it so far, and none of the web pages I've see so far have mentioned it.

I watched the Trump comments. I don’t see any of that from news. We should try and post facts only so we understand the arguments.

The man had to turn in his own son. That must have been agonizing.

Crazy.

taught the young lad how to shoot from a distance.

At least he did the right thing. Still you do have to question his parenting skills in rearing a murderer (right likes to throw that out all the time).

Must be all the Christian propaganda that the son was being fed that led to him murdering Kirk.

Wonder if this kid was Luigi-inspired

100% chance the cops were going to gun him down like they did to that guy who shot/killed some right wing jagoff proud boy type - witnesses said he was surrendering.

Patel is probably scrubbing his social media accounts.

"disturbed loner" blah blah blah

When we know it is likely stochastic RW insanity after he was indoctrinated online from an already radical RW position (his family environment)

Considering how some people - especially those marinated in online culture from infancy - can lead a satisfying ‘life’ without interacting much at all IRL. Everything imaginable delivered to your doorstep, video chats with people who validate your beliefs, even mock-sexual encounters for those especially lonely nights, etc.

Is it true that Kash spends most of the time in Vegas?

Not because it's my team vs their team, but because maybe that will lower the temperature some. The Right was ready to start spraying crowds with machine gun fire.

Nah.

"THE FAR LEFT GROOMED HIM INTO THIS!!!!"

or something like that. Apparently calling them Nazis is bad even though some of them call themselves that, some display Nazi flags and they have adopted Nazi tactics disappearing people, demanding papers and their precious president kept a book of Hitler's speeches on his nightstand.

more likely

When did Trump ever apologize for anything?

99.9% of them still believe that the loon who killed the Hortmans was a hitman for Tim Waltz and that the kid who shot DT was a lefty.

NT

I'm tired of hearing the right saying "they (the left) did this." No one on the legitimate left would even think of doing something like this. Only the radical, false left, clingers-on—whom the legit left needs to disown and discard—would.

I'd argue the best of the left (the majority and the authentic left) are disgusted by the assassination, and they hate the perp and the act. The right shouldn't talk about the act as of "the left." It's not. It's of the lost and of the scumbags. Not the left.

Living in Utah, odds are he's LDS as is his family. LDS members are hyper-focused on family. They'd be appalled by Epstein and Maxwell's sex trafficing ring.

One of his final acts before being murdered was bending the knee to dear leader.

Apparently the young MAGAs are deeply invested in the Epstein case, wanting all documents released regardless of who they implicate. Kirk had recently been vacillating on the subject, first calling for full transparency, then declaring the issue “dead” (after a phone call from frump himself). His young followers very vocally objected to the back-tracking, so Kirk switched it up again and called for release of the docs. This prompted looney toons Laura Loomer to declare him a “traitor” to the cause - thereby painting a target on his back. From the *right*, not the left.

dishing info that nobody else has, sucking up the attention.

cuz he's a narcissist. But back to our regularly scheduled politics, this doesn't lower the temp of the Epstein story IMO. It de-rails it for a few days max. Massie was in the news yesterday with this:

https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2025/09/10/congress/walkinshaw-signs-jeffrey-epstein-discharge-petition-massie-khanna-00556162

They are killing themselves off and continuing to promote tactics that facilitate their own demise.

Holy shit that’s cheap.

The St. George area is a place where a lot of people like to retire.

The LDS Church controls everything, and non-Mormons are socially ostracized. Couldn't wait to get out of there.

It’s probably not a bad place to retire. The climate down there is pretty mild.

For reference: Washington, UT is about 40 miles from Bunkerville, NV which made the news several years ago with the Cliven Bundy standoff.

FLDS = Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints .

That’s a fairly remote and rural area.

St. George is a bit west of there along I-15 and has a population of over 100,000.

Beautiful part of the country, though.

When they find out you don't go to one of their "houses of worship" you are quickly on the outside looking in.

I grew up during the civil rights era in Jackson, Miss. Then in Ft. Worth, Texas for a couple of teenage years. My parents were Democrats and definitely “liberal”. My father regularly warned me and my younger sister to keep quiet about our opinions regarding the civil rights movement. It was not because he was ashamed of it. It was about safety. He knew it was dangerous for anyone admitting to be on the positive side of civil rights. I was not allowed to put a Democratic bumper sticker on my three ring binder when I was in high school. Concern for the safety of his children is why my father insisted we keep our political preferences to ourselves. The fear lingers on to this day and I seldom reveal my political views unless I know you very well. That is one reason I love DU….because it feels safe here.

Right there. It’s length the end of invasion of the body snatchers when Donald Sutherland screeches at the human. Once they find out, you don’t go to their church, they will not stop. You are some kind of freak to them, a pitiable being that merely needs to see the light.

It was a property plot map with every home of a non-LDS family marked in red.

With lots of golf courses and views of the mountains.

I once drove through Utah and people seemed friendly. I was this young brown guy driving across the country in a shitty compact.

They even offered to look over my car mechanics for free when I stopped at a place.

I miss that time (not the economy, this was ‘09). I’m not saying it was perfect, far from it, but it felt like for maybe a short period we had a chance to not just view each other with complete suspicion and paranoia.

... not even considering selling.

Big families. Mormons. This wasn’t in Salt lake or major ski area. The area is very arid.

My wife's uncle lives there.

for an apology from tsf for insisting it was a leftist.

And they're probably trying to scrub the internet for real motives, but people will talk, there's too much out there to erase and silence.

terrorism which is pretty damn likely.

And some type of psychological testing etc . . .

Feel bad for the family. They will be hounded.

Which were mostly from a game (Helldivers) and other internet memes.

Shooter was deep online into incel stochastic terrorism country.

Law enforcement doesn't understand that world and hates to mention how RW terrorists come to be.

Almost looks like a placeholder record. Like it was generated when he was born, or something, and never updated. The guy didn't seem to be invested in public affairs or his civic duties.

Although I am sure some will be saying Mormons aren't real "christians."

People of color give a huge sigh of relief they will not be excoriated into eternity.

I do think he was brought up in a MAGA household, but…. He did receive a full scholarship to Utah State in engineering. My guess he had an epiphany about his upbringing when away from home, smart kid obviously, and questioned what he was taught.

do not necessarily result in societal or social type smarts.

In fact it kind of works the other way. Tech types are often offered help in interpersonal communication at companies where they work. I used to provide such seminars; that's how I know.

Teach me to speculate.

894 W Cimarron Dr Washington UT 84780

Killed a father of two, and made his own father - who worked in law enforcement - turn him in.

Can you imagine turning in your own son, who you know for sure will get the death penalty?

As Yoda might say - 'fucked-up, this country is, hmmm?'

To make sure the actual facts are reported.