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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsApparently the shooter is a homophobic magat.
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Just from the "engraved" bullet casings. It will take a few days to get past the official spin an self-congratulations expected from these clowns. If the family hadn't turned him in he probably would not be in custody.

chelsea0011
(10,164 posts)information and more a memorial service. See you on Valhalla from Kash Patel where he will meet Charlie Kirk when he dies? Valhalla is not a Heaven, but a place to gather before the final battle.
Solly Mack
(95,642 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(27,245 posts)Solly Mack
(95,642 posts)You'd think Patel would not have suggested Kirk was not in heaven. Can't go to both.
TommyT139
(1,839 posts)It goes to their whole worldview of this being a cosmic battle, with them the valiant soldiers.
Imagery is powerful.
Solly Mack
(95,642 posts)If he's in Valhalla, he ain't in heaven.
Not that I believe in either.
TommyT139
(1,839 posts)On the other hand, many -- especially the "white power" sorts -- would say that ending up in Valhalla is better than going to Christian Heaven, which would be more analogous to what Norther Tradition folks call the "grass death," for people who don't die in battle.
I do get the juxtapositionw with Kirk's self-proclaimed faith language...but that is precisely what makes Kash Patel's comments stick out as more meaningful.
Solly Mack
(95,642 posts)yardwork
(67,943 posts)The head of the FBI sounds like a kid cosplaying white supremacism.
Biophilic
(6,055 posts)yardwork
(67,943 posts)Argh.
TommyT139
(1,839 posts)...plus he might feel he has something to "prove" as someone who's a nonwhite child of Gujarati immigrants from Africa.
LeftInTX
(33,694 posts)The street is about 50 years old, so I don't think the street was named as part of a cosplay.
I always thought it was some NA word or something.
Oh well, if Valhalla isn't heaven, i guess they know where Kirk isn't going???
I assume they were talking about Kirk...
yardwork
(67,943 posts)It's related to Norse mythology, which is a thing with many white supremacists.
There's a whole sub-culture dedicated to Norse mythology among white supremacists.
AND it's a popular theme among gamers, who may or may not follow white supremacist beliefs.
What it is is a very dumb and childish thing for the head of the FBI to say.
LeftInTX
(33,694 posts)This is getting interesting....
"Kirk has gone to Valhalla"...
What happened to "he's with Jesus"???
yardwork
(67,943 posts)We're in uncharted territory.
chelsea0011
(10,164 posts)And then I did, what did he just say?
Solly Mack
(95,642 posts)BoRaGard
(7,439 posts)repubes are obviously on their knees for alla
who knew?
Oneironaut
(6,113 posts)yardwork
(67,943 posts)Bev54
(12,847 posts)himself in after being encouraged to do so by family and friends.
Liberal In Texas
(15,596 posts)Bettie
(18,845 posts)even I knew that there were manufacturers markings on ammunition.
But, I am known among my family and friends for the weird trivia that my brain decides to hold on to!
Renew Deal
(84,455 posts)Something about catching fascists, and another one that sounds homophobic if it's described accurately.
MichMan
(15,871 posts)What manufacturer?
jeffreyi
(2,433 posts)Or manufacturing stamps?
Celerity
(51,891 posts)https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/charlie-kirk-shooter-suspect-tyler-robinson-1236514694/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bella_ciao
"Bella ciao" (Italian pronunciation: [ˈbɛlla ˈtʃaːo]) is an Italian song dedicated to the partisans of the Italian resistance, who fought against the occupying troops of Nazi Germany and the collaborationist Fascist forces during the liberation of Italy.
herding cats
(19,799 posts)I didn't understand the meaning of them.
Celerity
(51,891 posts)The Three Arrows (German: Drei Pfeile) is a political symbol associated with the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD), used in the late history of the Weimar Republic. First conceived for the SPD-dominated Iron Front as a symbol of the social democratic resistance against Nazism in 1932, it became an official symbol of the Party during the November 1932 German federal election, representing their opposition towards monarchism, Nazism, and communism.
Since its inception, the symbol has been used in many different contexts by a variety of anti-fascist, social democratic and socialist organisations.



MSNBC just said the other arrows (apart from the 3) mean 'total destruction' in video game culture.
herding cats
(19,799 posts)I learned something new.
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,413 posts)...from Celerity's posts.
WarGamer
(17,820 posts)LeftInTX
(33,694 posts)
It's the avatar of a DU member who passed away a few years ago.
Celerity
(51,891 posts)jmbar2
(7,277 posts)If he had them engraved, seems like bullet engravers would know a lot about potential terrorists planning symbolic violence.
LeftInTX
(33,694 posts)Maybe before that, but Luigi put words like "Deny, Defend, Dispose" on the casings with a sharpie.
That's the first I heard of this.
jmbar2
(7,277 posts)Not that it would have been anything else, given the target.
LeftInTX
(33,694 posts)
https://www.moviemaker.com/charlie-kirk-helldivers/
Link to tweet
I don't play games so I don't know WTF this means.
Celerity
(51,891 posts)
LeftInTX
(33,694 posts)And who knows, it may be in video games. It is a popular tune.
Apparently according to Reddit in a video game called FarCry 6
https://www.reddit.com/r/farcry/comments/pi7s7i/does_anyone_know_the_name_of_the_song_thats/
TBH: I just assumed it was an Italian folk song. I never knew the significance or anything...

It's like mariachi or Tejano music. I don't know what the heck most of it is about, but it's super ubiquitous here. It's everywhere. Some Tejano music is about drugs, but I couldn't tell you if it was a song about drugs or love because I don't understand much Spanish, let alone understand lyrics to music.
Seeking Serenity
(3,230 posts)They are a video game controller input for a bomb tactic in the game "Hell Diver 2" (up, right, down, down, down)
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yardwork
(67,943 posts)I have no idea, but those messages - if the whole engraving on bullets thing is true - sound unhinged.
Wiz Imp
(6,967 posts)Liberal In Texas
(15,596 posts)You mean the utterly normal factory shell casing markings stamped onto any bog standard shell casings of normal, readily available and utterly unmodified ammo from any of a million American retail places and online stores.
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Melon
(764 posts)herding cats
(19,799 posts)See my post below. I heard this from Cox during the presser.
herding cats
(19,799 posts)I didn't understand what was on them all but the last one was homophobic.
It said, "if you're reading this you're @ay. LMAO"
CNN has this excerpt:
JI7
(92,573 posts)At least one pic I saw of him. A less funny looking version of Kirk.
democratsruletheday
(1,542 posts)I shouldn't label but....he is
JI7
(92,573 posts)The one where he has a bit of a smile
https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/comments/1nf3vja/22_year_old_tyler_robinson_identified_as_official/
UpInArms
(53,377 posts)Good Cristian gun toting right wing Republican family and pop was a minister, to boot!
QueerDuck
(55 posts)Heidi
(58,689 posts)The apple doesnt fall far from the tree.
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TheProle
(3,642 posts)Crunchy Frog
(27,879 posts)TheProle
(3,642 posts)Celerity
(51,891 posts)
egduj
(880 posts)SickOfTheOnePct
(8,413 posts)...the "if you read this you're gay LMAO" as "ha ha Charlie Kirk, you're actually gay"
lostincalifornia
(4,374 posts)the perpetrator told his father, and it was his father who turned him in. Nothing to do with the clown show, who only a day or two earlier were professing they had the killer, only to retract that they didn't.
Scrivener7
(57,083 posts)
SickOfTheOnePct
(8,413 posts)I've never seen/heard of a right winger saying they hate Charlie Kirk or using/writing anti-fascist words.
Scrivener7
(57,083 posts)Also, it looks like he donated money to Cankles's campaign:
https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?contributor_name=tyler+robinson&contributor_city=St+george&contributor_state=UT
rubbersole
(10,468 posts)A couple of days from now there will be a better profile of this guy. I somehow doubt that he had Jesus in his heart (even though it's being reported that his dad is a minister).
Wiz Imp
(6,967 posts)rubbersole
(10,468 posts)Wiz Imp
(6,967 posts)"hey fascist! catch!" is apparently from a video game called Helldivers 2. It's not necessarily meant to support "anti Fascist ideology" (whatever that is supposed to mean)
RockRaven
(17,943 posts)Sneederbunk
(16,669 posts)