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rubbersole

(10,468 posts)
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:19 AM 17 hrs ago

Apparently the shooter is a homophobic magat.

Last edited Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:05 AM - Edit history (1)

Just from the "engraved" bullet casings. It will take a few days to get past the official spin an self-congratulations expected from these clowns. If the family hadn't turned him in he probably would not be in custody.

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Apparently the shooter is a homophobic magat. (Original Post) rubbersole 17 hrs ago OP
This presser is less about chelsea0011 17 hrs ago #1
I laughed when he said that about Valhalla. Solly Mack 17 hrs ago #2
I don't know it by I choose to believe Valhalla has a minimum height requirement. Hassin Bin Sober 17 hrs ago #6
It certainly has a warrior requirement. Running your mouth does not a warrior make. Solly Mack 17 hrs ago #8
I was surprised, but didn't think it funny TommyT139 17 hrs ago #9
I get what they think but to suggest Kirk was not in heaven caused me to laugh. Solly Mack 17 hrs ago #13
Good point... TommyT139 17 hrs ago #24
True. The whole Norse/Odin embrace has long been a part of white supremacist/nationalist groups. Solly Mack 16 hrs ago #41
Same here. It's not a good look. yardwork 17 hrs ago #31
That's because he is cosplaying white supremacism. Biophilic 17 hrs ago #35
Yeah. Sigh. yardwork 17 hrs ago #36
I wish it was cosplay. I think it's not.... TommyT139 16 hrs ago #44
I don't even know WTF Vahalla is, but there is a street with that name in town. LeftInTX 16 hrs ago #48
Google Valhalla. yardwork 16 hrs ago #49
Will Trump also say this? LeftInTX 16 hrs ago #52
Good question. yardwork 15 hrs ago #55
So did I chelsea0011 17 hrs ago #25
Patel is... I don't know what. Lots of adjectives and nouns. None of them good. Solly Mack 16 hrs ago #42
Backwards is: Alla hlav BoRaGard 17 hrs ago #38
God they're so cringe. I'm sorry, but, the failed seriousness is so funny. Oneironaut 17 hrs ago #34
Funny weird, not funny haha to me. yardwork 17 hrs ago #37
And full of self praise, in an "historical" (Patel) investigation even though they did not "catch" him, he turned Bev54 15 hrs ago #68
The engraved casings were manufacturers IDs. Liberal In Texas 17 hrs ago #3
I'm not a gun person and Bettie 17 hrs ago #7
There is new information today about other messages Renew Deal 17 hrs ago #12
Manufacturers put homophobic statements on ammunition? MichMan 17 hrs ago #30
The bullet casings were engraved? jeffreyi 17 hrs ago #4
According to Gov. Cox, the family friend said Robinson had become "more political" in recent years. The engravings on Celerity 17 hrs ago #10
Did the arrows stand for the Bella Ciao? herding cats 17 hrs ago #26
I am totally guessing here but 3 down arrows (I need to see the engravings to see if they match) may reference this: Celerity 17 hrs ago #32
Thanks for that herding cats 16 hrs ago #43
I always learn something new... SickOfTheOnePct 16 hrs ago #46
Thanks for the reality check, Celerity... more than a few need to read it. WarGamer 16 hrs ago #50
I've seen the down arrows as an avatar on DU. LeftInTX 15 hrs ago #56
yes, it is a well known anti-fascist logo Celerity 15 hrs ago #60
I know nothing of bullet casings - how do you write a message on them? Are they large enough for a sharpie? jmbar2 15 hrs ago #57
It's been a thing since Luigi LeftInTX 15 hrs ago #63
Clearly ideology-based killing to do that jmbar2 15 hrs ago #67
I'm now reading that it's this LeftInTX 10 hrs ago #70
Yes, TY, it appears to be that gamer meme. I stressed I needed to see the markings first and was just making a guess Celerity 10 hrs ago #71
And Bella Caio may simply be from the Netflix series Money Heist LeftInTX 8 hrs ago #72
According to my Zoomer son, Seeking Serenity 15 hrs ago #64
This message was self-deleted by its author Seeking Serenity 15 hrs ago #65
Schizophrenia can emerge in young adulthood. yardwork 17 hrs ago #33
Those seem like awfully long phrases to fit on a casing. Wiz Imp 16 hrs ago #51
Makers marks Liberal In Texas 17 hrs ago #15
No. Someone had engraved messages on the case Melon 17 hrs ago #20
No he engraved them with dumb shit. herding cats 17 hrs ago #21
Engraved. herding cats 17 hrs ago #17
The shooter kind of looks like Charlie Kirk JI7 17 hrs ago #5
geeky? democratsruletheday 17 hrs ago #11
The pic at this link JI7 17 hrs ago #19
Seems he was raised in a UpInArms 16 hrs ago #40
With a proportional tooth to gum ratio? QueerDuck 15 hrs ago #66
Have fun with the self-own, suckers. Heidi 17 hrs ago #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Crunchy Frog 17 hrs ago #16
removed TheProle 17 hrs ago #23
Sorry, not what I intended. I'll delete the post. Crunchy Frog 17 hrs ago #27
Thanks TheProle 17 hrs ago #28
IF the reports of the engravings are accurate, your framing is not going to hold up. Celerity 17 hrs ago #18
You don't think "fascist catch" is a common manufacturer stamp? egduj 17 hrs ago #22
Yeah, I took... SickOfTheOnePct 17 hrs ago #29
That press conference was a joke. Self-congratulating how "great they were" in the capture. Only problem is lostincalifornia 17 hrs ago #39
This guy was right wing. They appear to have reached the "eat your own" phase. Scrivener7 16 hrs ago #45
Where are you getting that he's right wing? SickOfTheOnePct 16 hrs ago #47
Last I looked, homophobia is a republican family value. Scrivener7 16 hrs ago #53
Post #19 above has a link to pictures of him wearing a tsf tee shirt. rubbersole 15 hrs ago #58
I'm pretty sure the person in the Team Trump shirt in that post is Kirk himself. Wiz Imp 15 hrs ago #61
OK. Thank you. rubbersole 15 hrs ago #69
Nick Fuentes hated Charlie Kirk Wiz Imp 15 hrs ago #59
Hating Charlie Kirk from the right? Look up Nick Fuentes/Groypers and Laura Loomer. RockRaven 15 hrs ago #62
FOX to announce war on the Unaffiliated. Sneederbunk 15 hrs ago #54

chelsea0011

(10,164 posts)
1. This presser is less about
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:25 AM
17 hrs ago

information and more a memorial service. “See you on Valhalla “ from Kash Patel where he will meet Charlie Kirk when he dies? Valhalla is not a Heaven, but a place to gather before the final battle.

Solly Mack

(95,642 posts)
8. It certainly has a warrior requirement. Running your mouth does not a warrior make.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:36 AM
17 hrs ago

You'd think Patel would not have suggested Kirk was not in heaven. Can't go to both.

TommyT139

(1,839 posts)
9. I was surprised, but didn't think it funny
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:37 AM
17 hrs ago

It goes to their whole worldview of this being a cosmic battle, with them the valiant soldiers.

Imagery is powerful.

Solly Mack

(95,642 posts)
13. I get what they think but to suggest Kirk was not in heaven caused me to laugh.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:39 AM
17 hrs ago

If he's in Valhalla, he ain't in heaven.

Not that I believe in either.

TommyT139

(1,839 posts)
24. Good point...
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:48 AM
17 hrs ago

On the other hand, many -- especially the "white power" sorts -- would say that ending up in Valhalla is better than going to Christian Heaven, which would be more analogous to what Norther Tradition folks call the "grass death," for people who don't die in battle.

I do get the juxtapositionw with Kirk's self-proclaimed faith language...but that is precisely what makes Kash Patel's comments stick out as more meaningful.

Solly Mack

(95,642 posts)
41. True. The whole Norse/Odin embrace has long been a part of white supremacist/nationalist groups.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:04 AM
16 hrs ago

yardwork

(67,943 posts)
31. Same here. It's not a good look.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:55 AM
17 hrs ago

The head of the FBI sounds like a kid cosplaying white supremacism.

TommyT139

(1,839 posts)
44. I wish it was cosplay. I think it's not....
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:15 AM
16 hrs ago

...plus he might feel he has something to "prove" as someone who's a nonwhite child of Gujarati immigrants from Africa.

LeftInTX

(33,694 posts)
48. I don't even know WTF Vahalla is, but there is a street with that name in town.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:47 AM
16 hrs ago

The street is about 50 years old, so I don't think the street was named as part of a cosplay.

I always thought it was some NA word or something.

Oh well, if Valhalla isn't heaven, i guess they know where Kirk isn't going???

I assume they were talking about Kirk...

yardwork

(67,943 posts)
49. Google Valhalla.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:52 AM
16 hrs ago

It's related to Norse mythology, which is a thing with many white supremacists.

There's a whole sub-culture dedicated to Norse mythology among white supremacists.

AND it's a popular theme among gamers, who may or may not follow white supremacist beliefs.

What it is is a very dumb and childish thing for the head of the FBI to say.

LeftInTX

(33,694 posts)
52. Will Trump also say this?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:57 AM
16 hrs ago

This is getting interesting....

"Kirk has gone to Valhalla"...

What happened to "he's with Jesus"???

Bev54

(12,847 posts)
68. And full of self praise, in an "historical" (Patel) investigation even though they did not "catch" him, he turned
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:54 PM
15 hrs ago

himself in after being encouraged to do so by family and friends.

Bettie

(18,845 posts)
7. I'm not a gun person and
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:34 AM
17 hrs ago

even I knew that there were manufacturers markings on ammunition.

But, I am known among my family and friends for the weird trivia that my brain decides to hold on to!

Renew Deal

(84,455 posts)
12. There is new information today about other messages
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:39 AM
17 hrs ago

Something about catching fascists, and another one that sounds homophobic if it's described accurately.

Celerity

(51,891 posts)
10. According to Gov. Cox, the family friend said Robinson had become "more political" in recent years. The engravings on
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:38 AM
17 hrs ago
his bullet casings included phrases like “Hey, fascist! Catch!,” “If you read this you are gay lmao” and “Bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao.”

https://variety.com/2025/tv/news/charlie-kirk-shooter-suspect-tyler-robinson-1236514694/



Bella ciao

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bella_ciao

"Bella ciao" (Italian pronunciation: [ˈbɛlla ˈtʃaːo]) is an Italian song dedicated to the partisans of the Italian resistance, who fought against the occupying troops of Nazi Germany and the collaborationist Fascist forces during the liberation of Italy.

Celerity

(51,891 posts)
32. I am totally guessing here but 3 down arrows (I need to see the engravings to see if they match) may reference this:
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:56 AM
17 hrs ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Arrows

The Three Arrows (German: Drei Pfeile) is a political symbol associated with the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD), used in the late history of the Weimar Republic. First conceived for the SPD-dominated Iron Front as a symbol of the social democratic resistance against Nazism in 1932, it became an official symbol of the Party during the November 1932 German federal election, representing their opposition towards monarchism, Nazism, and communism.

Since its inception, the symbol has been used in many different contexts by a variety of anti-fascist, social democratic and socialist organisations.







MSNBC just said the other arrows (apart from the 3) mean 'total destruction' in video game culture.

LeftInTX

(33,694 posts)
56. I've seen the down arrows as an avatar on DU.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:02 PM
15 hrs ago


It's the avatar of a DU member who passed away a few years ago.

jmbar2

(7,277 posts)
57. I know nothing of bullet casings - how do you write a message on them? Are they large enough for a sharpie?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:04 PM
15 hrs ago

If he had them engraved, seems like bullet engravers would know a lot about potential terrorists planning symbolic violence.

LeftInTX

(33,694 posts)
63. It's been a thing since Luigi
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:24 PM
15 hrs ago

Maybe before that, but Luigi put words like "Deny, Defend, Dispose" on the casings with a sharpie.

That's the first I heard of this.

jmbar2

(7,277 posts)
67. Clearly ideology-based killing to do that
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:36 PM
15 hrs ago

Not that it would have been anything else, given the target.

Celerity

(51,891 posts)
71. Yes, TY, it appears to be that gamer meme. I stressed I needed to see the markings first and was just making a guess
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 05:20 PM
10 hrs ago

LeftInTX

(33,694 posts)
72. And Bella Caio may simply be from the Netflix series Money Heist
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 07:30 PM
8 hrs ago
&t=1s&ab_channel=StillWatchingNetflix

And who knows, it may be in video games. It is a popular tune.

Apparently according to Reddit in a video game called FarCry 6

https://www.reddit.com/r/farcry/comments/pi7s7i/does_anyone_know_the_name_of_the_song_thats/

It is a well known song, but the reason 20year old kids know it is Far Cry. Much like my generation knows Ride of the Valkyres due to Bugs Bunny.


TBH: I just assumed it was an Italian folk song. I never knew the significance or anything...

It's like mariachi or Tejano music. I don't know what the heck most of it is about, but it's super ubiquitous here. It's everywhere. Some Tejano music is about drugs, but I couldn't tell you if it was a song about drugs or love because I don't understand much Spanish, let alone understand lyrics to music.

Seeking Serenity

(3,230 posts)
64. According to my Zoomer son,
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:26 PM
15 hrs ago

They are a video game controller input for a bomb tactic in the game "Hell Diver 2" (up, right, down, down, down)

Response to herding cats (Reply #26)

yardwork

(67,943 posts)
33. Schizophrenia can emerge in young adulthood.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:57 AM
17 hrs ago

I have no idea, but those messages - if the whole engraving on bullets thing is true - sound unhinged.

Liberal In Texas

(15,596 posts)
15. Makers marks
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:43 AM
17 hrs ago

You mean the utterly normal factory shell casing markings stamped onto any bog standard shell casings of normal, readily available and utterly unmodified ammo from any of a million American retail places and online stores.
bsky.app/profile/adam...

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herding cats

(19,799 posts)
21. No he engraved them with dumb shit.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:46 AM
17 hrs ago

See my post below. I heard this from Cox during the presser.

herding cats

(19,799 posts)
17. Engraved.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:43 AM
17 hrs ago

I didn't understand what was on them all but the last one was homophobic.

It said, "if you're reading this you're @ay. LMAO"

CNN has this excerpt:

“Inscriptions on the three unfired casings read ‘Hey, fascist, exclamation point, catch, exclamation point. Up arrow symbol, right arrow symbol and three down arrow symbols,’” Cox said.

JI7

(92,573 posts)
5. The shooter kind of looks like Charlie Kirk
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:31 AM
17 hrs ago

At least one pic I saw of him. A less funny looking version of Kirk.

UpInArms

(53,377 posts)
40. Seems he was raised in a
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:03 AM
16 hrs ago

Good Cristian gun toting right wing Republican family … and pop was a minister, to boot!

Response to rubbersole (Original post)

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,413 posts)
29. Yeah, I took...
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 10:52 AM
17 hrs ago

...the "if you read this you're gay LMAO" as "ha ha Charlie Kirk, you're actually gay"

lostincalifornia

(4,374 posts)
39. That press conference was a joke. Self-congratulating how "great they were" in the capture. Only problem is
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:00 AM
17 hrs ago

the perpetrator told his father, and it was his father who turned him in. Nothing to do with the clown show, who only a day or two earlier were professing they had the killer, only to retract that they didn't.


SickOfTheOnePct

(8,413 posts)
47. Where are you getting that he's right wing?
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:47 AM
16 hrs ago

I've never seen/heard of a right winger saying they hate Charlie Kirk or using/writing anti-fascist words.

rubbersole

(10,468 posts)
58. Post #19 above has a link to pictures of him wearing a tsf tee shirt.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:06 PM
15 hrs ago

A couple of days from now there will be a better profile of this guy. I somehow doubt that he had Jesus in his heart (even though it's being reported that his dad is a minister).

Wiz Imp

(6,967 posts)
59. Nick Fuentes hated Charlie Kirk
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:10 PM
15 hrs ago

"hey fascist! catch!" is apparently from a video game called Helldivers 2. It's not necessarily meant to support "anti Fascist ideology" (whatever that is supposed to mean)

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