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malaise

(288,846 posts)
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:41 AM 16 hrs ago

Let me make this pellucidly clear

Nothing changes these facts

https://racism.org/articles/defining-racism/white-privilege/12835-charlie-kirk-white-supremacist

Charlie Kirk built himself into the face of a conservative youth movement through Turning Point USA (TPUSA). Behind the branding of “patriotism” and “freedom,” the record shows a pattern of rhetoric, organizational culture, and alliances that echoed white supremacist and Christian nationalist ideologies. The Southern Poverty Law Center documented how TPUSA repeatedly framed immigrants, LGBTQ+ people, and racial justice advocates as existential threats to “white Christian America,” warning followers that their families, religion, and entire way of life were under attack. In later years, Kirk openly embraced Christian nationalist language, claiming that liberty was only possible with a Christian population—a narrative tying freedom to demographic dominance, a cornerstone of supremacist logic (SPLC).



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Let me make this pellucidly clear (Original Post) malaise 16 hrs ago OP
Letting young kids be exposed to that is abuse leftstreet 16 hrs ago #1
I have two grandchildren that are trans (LGBTQ). I fear for them. Kirk was not kind to anyone other than OLDMDDEM 16 hrs ago #2
He played his followers and opened doors for cachukis 16 hrs ago #3
A mean, hateful small fraction of a human being that will only be missed by Floyd R. Turbo 15 hrs ago #4
but apparently a large fraction of the GOP Congress RussBLib 13 hrs ago #15
He helped lead the White-geist eleny 15 hrs ago #5
Good one. Irish_Dem 8 hrs ago #28
What happened Wednesday was BLOWBACK. DinahMoeHum 14 hrs ago #6
I think he was nuckin' futs. He was grooming followers, for Trump. twodogsbarking 14 hrs ago #7
All to advance the agenda of the plutocracy. Kid Berwyn 14 hrs ago #8
I have been looking for NJCher 13 hrs ago #14
Yes indeed malaise 13 hrs ago #18
None of that justifies murdering him however. totodeinhere 14 hrs ago #9
Apparently you missed the malaise 14 hrs ago #10
Just because I do not approve of Kirk's murder doesn't mean that I approve of those other things. totodeinhere 10 hrs ago #19
Against who Keepthesoulalive 13 hrs ago #11
I don't know if that has been confirmed but I suspected as much and said so on DU. totodeinhere 10 hrs ago #20
That's between them Keepthesoulalive 9 hrs ago #22
It's not just between them. Some people are blaming the left for this so we totodeinhere 9 hrs ago #25
They are always going to blame the left Keepthesoulalive 9 hrs ago #26
He promoted hate speech. The End. Or as Malaise says, "That's all". Joinfortmill 13 hrs ago #12
The murderer is a loser PoliciesRuleTheDay 13 hrs ago #13
more attention needs to be paid to this statement: NJCher 13 hrs ago #16
You don't platform hitler light Keepthesoulalive 9 hrs ago #24
If it is an honest debate ok Keepthesoulalive 9 hrs ago #23
Tribal warfare. He's a Groyper - Nick Fuentes follower. Rival camp. underpants 8 hrs ago #29
Kirk was a revolting white supremacist who kissed Trump's ass at every opportunity. Martin68 13 hrs ago #17
Kick dalton99a 10 hrs ago #21
Kirk tried to destroy half of America but ended up destroying himself in the process. Irish_Dem 8 hrs ago #27
Well put. yellow dahlia 8 hrs ago #30
Kick SheltieLover 8 hrs ago #31

leftstreet

(37,157 posts)
1. Letting young kids be exposed to that is abuse
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:44 AM
16 hrs ago

And all the social media pic grabs of the shooter over the years - guns, guns, guns

Somebody get the other kids in that family a wellness check

OLDMDDEM

(2,703 posts)
2. I have two grandchildren that are trans (LGBTQ). I fear for them. Kirk was not kind to anyone other than
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:46 AM
16 hrs ago

christian/white nationalist individuals. That includes our current (p)resident.

cachukis

(3,428 posts)
3. He played his followers and opened doors for
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 11:55 AM
16 hrs ago

trump and vance.
Truth tellers have been put on notice.

Floyd R. Turbo

(30,861 posts)
4. A mean, hateful small fraction of a human being that will only be missed by
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:00 PM
15 hrs ago

mean, hateful small fractions of human beings!

DinahMoeHum

(23,160 posts)
6. What happened Wednesday was BLOWBACK.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:04 PM
14 hrs ago

It was inevitable, given the climate of coarser and coarser discourse in our nation.

And I'm sorry that I'm not sorry about what happened to him.

You reap what you sow.

Kid Berwyn

(21,923 posts)
8. All to advance the agenda of the plutocracy.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:25 PM
14 hrs ago

Tax breaks for uh the rich, for ever and ever.

How U.S. tax policies have fueled right-wing populism

https://equitablegrowth.org/how-u-s-tax-policies-have-fueled-right-wing-populism/

totodeinhere

(13,664 posts)
9. None of that justifies murdering him however.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:28 PM
14 hrs ago

And the right wing is already calling for revenge. His murder will just feed into more violence.

malaise

(288,846 posts)
10. Apparently you missed the
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:59 PM
14 hrs ago

I am your retribution from the guy who fomented a failed coup then pardoned the cop killers and goons threatening to kill the VP.
Apparently you missed the slaughter of democrats in Minnesota and the attempted assassination of Paul Pelosi.
Please tell me where I justified this murder.

totodeinhere

(13,664 posts)
19. Just because I do not approve of Kirk's murder doesn't mean that I approve of those other things.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 05:51 PM
10 hrs ago

This is what I said previously.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20624115

I specifically called out the Minnesota shooting.

To assume that I missed those other horrible things just because I said this particular shooting was unjustified is totally illogical.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,766 posts)
11. Against who
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:01 PM
13 hrs ago

The suspect belongs to another white fascist group. It appears to be a part of the Nick Fuentes group. Democrats and the liberals don’t have any say in this fight. They are reaping what they have sown.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,766 posts)
22. That's between them
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:08 PM
9 hrs ago

Rumor has it that Fuentes is afraid of retribution and that’s their problem. I’m sure they will wort it out.

totodeinhere

(13,664 posts)
25. It's not just between them. Some people are blaming the left for this so we
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:49 PM
9 hrs ago

have a dog in this fight whether we like it or not.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,766 posts)
26. They are always going to blame the left
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:55 PM
9 hrs ago

Blacks, Hispanics, Jews, women. They are never responsible for the chaos the bring. I can’t fix them or change them so I have no dog in this fight. They started harassing black institutions of higher learning, we are used to it. We’ve also learned not to fret.

13. The murderer is a loser
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:28 PM
13 hrs ago

So Tyler Robinson went and killed a debater who opened up the floor for to Democratic college students to share their opinions and ideas. So stupid and unnecessary. That's not how you defeat someone like that. You defeat him through debate. Tell him why his ideas are wrong and how things can be improved. You don't shut down the debate. That seems to be the problem these days with younger people. They don't want debate, and anyone who disagrees with them needs to be destroyed. Even before the debate, there were [940 activists (corrected)] who signed a petition to prevent him from speaking.

NJCher

(41,352 posts)
16. more attention needs to be paid to this statement:
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:35 PM
13 hrs ago
Even before the debate, there were thousands of students who signed a petition to prevent him from speaking.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,766 posts)
24. You don't platform hitler light
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:17 PM
9 hrs ago

Imagine being gay, trans , black a woman and listening to justification for your marginalization. If it were a debate he would have to be open to changing some of his views, it was nothing more then another republican propaganda session.

Keepthesoulalive

(1,766 posts)
23. If it is an honest debate ok
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:12 PM
9 hrs ago

But it is a publicity stunt with really bad statistics and Gish galloping. He then takes it back to the studio and cleans it up to make it appear he had valid points.
It is a recruitment session. The man was an unrepentant monster, stop trying to clean up his image.

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