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judy

(1,959 posts)
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:09 PM 15 hrs ago

Charlie Kirk was not a "conservative"

I can't fathom why he is called a conservative in every news report and commentary.
Charlie Kirk was an extremist. He called himself a Christian while promoting everything that would have made Jesus of Nazareth recoil in horror.
Killing him is an awful crime, that will give more power to the right and the forces of hate.

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leftstreet

(37,157 posts)
1. The terms and definitions seem to be changing
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:11 PM
15 hrs ago

Apparently he wasn't far right enough for the far right

ImNotGod

(1,067 posts)
2. He was a russian paid fascist cult leader, one of many in this dumb and dumber country. nt
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:13 PM
15 hrs ago

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,199 posts)
4. Nonsense. You can post no credible evidence for your claim of Russian pay. You can do better
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:21 PM
15 hrs ago

Every time posters posit Russian domination of US politicians and commentators, they are excusing them. Radical US conservatives, everyone to the right of say Lisa Murkowski, are perfectly capable of very destructive statements and actions all on their own.

Bernardo de La Paz

(58,199 posts)
3. Given current craven state of US conservatism, I'm fine with them calling a sexist racist a "conservative"
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:16 PM
15 hrs ago

Given the way Ailes, Gingrich, Limbaugh and tRump have warped conservatism and polarized political discourse, "conservative" has considerable overlap with "racist" and "misogynist" these days.

True conservatives have shut up or been shut up.

Johonny

(24,582 posts)
7. He was an disinfo-tainer.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:30 PM
15 hrs ago

He had a political group and sold political product, but his goal was mostly to make money off the political apparatus of the country using the rage generation algorithms of social media

biocube

(136 posts)
8. Turning Point USA is funded by billionaires
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:37 PM
15 hrs ago

None of the donors give a shit about culture war issues. But of course, you can't get more voters on college campuses preaching "billionaires should pay less taxes, because liberteh".

Basically describing the GOP since Nixon.

Bev54

(12,847 posts)
9. Well that is the same as most of the republican politicians and their supporters and the media
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 12:46 PM
15 hrs ago

still refers to them as conservatives. They should instead be called Christian Nationalists full of hatred.

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