But this is at least 95% him and the Right went nuts on the left before they had even a shred of evidence the shooter was leftist.

He posted Pepe the Frog memes. Dressed in that Trump costume for Halloween. And he's rumored to be a disciple of Nick Fuentes, who was feuding with Kirk.

He was from a Right Wing gun nut family.

Pretty safe to say he was Alt Right at least and likely a White Nationalist.

Posts falsely claim Charlie Kirk shooting suspect was a Trump donor

"Tyler Robinson" is a more common name than social media users would lead you to believe.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/charlie-kirk-suspect-trump-donor/



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According to the Federal Election Commission, the Tyler Robinson who donated $224.48 to Trump listed an occupation of "ENTREPRENEUR" and lived in St. George, Utah, at ZIP code 84790. That Robinson donated the money on Oct. 5, 2020, to the "TRUMP MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN COMMITTEE."

Public records showed the shooting suspect's residential address, in contrast, was in Washington, Utah, at ZIP code 84780 — physically close to the Robinson who donated to Trump, but not the same address.

The Federal Election Commission website has published the Trump donor's full address. Looking at that address using the Washington County, Utah, property search webpage found that the Robinson who donated to Trump bought the St. George house along with his wife, according to the deed; the Trump donor sold that home in 2022, according to additional records.

The shooting suspect, reportedly a 22-year-old as of this writing, would have been a minor in 2019. In Utah, children can only own or sell property if they are emancipated or married — but social media posts from the suspect's mother depicted a close-knit family, according to USA Today, thus suggesting Robinson was not emancipated, and there was no indication that the suspect had married anyone; reputable news reports would have certainly included that.

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https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220633949#post58

been through there a few times.

OTOH there are a lot of Mormons ( the families tend to stay near their childhood homes... not to mention that they sometimes have a large number of spouses with even more children ) so there could be more tylers in the Robinson clan

Maga with zero evidence: "Get the Dems! Time to declare war!!"

"The shooter shown wearing a Donald Trump costume and may have donated to the Trump campaign in 2020."

Maga: "Waitaminnute, it could be a different guy and so what if he wears a costume!!"

MAGA logic.

Link to tweet

That's exactly what all leaders of the gun cult should be saying.

There is nothing stopping minors from donating to political campaigns.

Response to now deleted post.

One from Salt Lake City.

The one from St. George only donated to Trump.

"Authorities said there were messages written on the fired casing and three unfired bullets found in the Mauser rifle allegedly used in the shooting."

"The fired casing, according to Utah governor Spencer Cox, read, 'Notices bulges OwO What’s This?' The phrase references an internet meme tied to animated videos and furry culture. OwO references an emoticon, and 'what’s this?' denotes cuteness or curiosity. It’s frequently referenced by video game streamers."

"One of the unfired casings said, according to Cox: “Oh bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao.” The lyrics reference the anthem of the antifascist Italian resistance during World War II."

"Cox said that another read, 'Hey fascist! Catch!' The casing also had a series of arrows that pointed up, right, down, down, and down in reference to a cooperative shooter video game called Helldivers 2. The input is the code for an airstrike. It has morphed into a meme and is used to imply a devastating reaction to something that should be destroyed."

"The third unfired casing, according to Cox, said, 'If you’re reading this, you’re gay LMAO.' "

More details at link:

'Here's what we know about Tyler Robinson, the suspect in Charlie Kirk's murder'

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2025/09/12/what-we-know-charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect/86091474007/

in order to throw off the fuzz?

The governor was spreading misinformation.

"Usage in video games and modern culture...Recent popularity has led to the song's inclusion in various media, including: Money Heist (2017–2018), the Spanish Netflix series prominently features 'Bella Ciao.'; Far Cry 6 (2021), an adapted version titled 'Bella Ciao de Libertad' is a revolutionary song opposing the fictional dictator of Yara; Hearts of Iron IV (2022), a choir version was released as part of the DLC By Blood Alone for this grand strategy game."

I'm not a gamer, don't know anything about the gaming culture, but this connection has been reported by several reliable sources, and on numerous postings here on DU. Like this one:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220634618

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bella_ciao

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In 2017 and 2018, the song received renewed popularity due to the singing of "Bella ciao" multiple times in the Spanish television series Money Heist. The character Tokyo recounts in one of her narrations, "The life of the Professor revolved around a single idea: Resistance. His grandfather, who had fought against the fascists in Italy, taught him the song and he taught us." The song is played in emblematic moments in the series as a metaphor for freedom.

In the German protests against the rising right-extremist party AfD in January 2025, the song was chanted by around 600 people in Würzburg. The event produced a viral TikTok-video with 3.4 million views within 4 days, documenting the chants during the protest.

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The song was the inspiration for the #EleNão movement against right wing Brazilian presidential candidate Jair Bolsonaro.

During nationwide protests in Colombia in 2019, the anti-fascist song was adapted by demonstrators to oppose the government of Iván Duque of the Centro Democrático party, who have been for years questioned or investigated for systematic violations of the Constitution, the environment, Human Rights and Crimes against humanity. As the presidential period of Duque ends in 2022, since 2019 the song, dubbed as 'Duque Chao', is sung and interpreted in protests in Colombia and by the diáspora, also during the national strike demonstrations of April and May 2021, in which citizens have been killed, injured and disappeared by state police forces.

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In 2023, unionists from the Italian General Confederation of Labour, Italian Confederation of Trade Unions, and Italian Labour Union sang "Bella Ciao" to protest Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, who has been criticized for her party's neo-fascist origins Similarly, in 2024, left-wing MEPs sang "Bella Ciao" in the European Parliament on the occasion of a visit by Hungary's authoritarian prime minister Viktor Orbán.

IF I see actual cold hard proof, then I will admit it instantly.

The Pepe meme halloween costume social media post was from 7 years ago, when the POS Robinson was only 15 years old, for instance.

on the Groypers "War" Playlist (appeared to be available through Spotify, but I don't remember how to post pictures) and it's from that game Hellraisers II (or something like that) which they're all obsessed with.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220633949#post27


btw, here is the original X post of that playlist, whick George Conway picked up on and spread (and which has been posted all over DU now)

Link to tweet

this is perfect!

https://democraticunderground.com/100220634618

Last edited Fri Sep 12, 2025, 06:27 PM - Edit history (1)

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0ais7KJXx8Gyd0hsrbakKW

be far happier than if he is a LWer nutter. I really hope he is a RWer, but as of now I am not convinced.

Someone literally posts a Groyper playlist with it on there and """you don't buy it,""" lol.

Again, facts are facts, regardless of what people think of them.

automatically Groypers, though some may be both.

And yet they didn't shoot him dead.

Being a gamer doesn't do much to point to a motive here, but being a Groyper would -- and it would make sense with the available evidence that is out there, hence why people are bringing it up.

saves (it had less than that the first time I checked before, but now it is being exposed on social media, so it is attracting 'fans') is hardly definitive proof on its own that Robinson is a Groyper.

That list is just the product of some rando Spotify user with FIVE followers, not some official Groyper product.

It is all over the place in terms of songs and artists with a tonne of huge pop stars and rappers included:

Ellie Goulding, Kid Cudi, Calvin Harris, Spongebob Squarepants, Estelle, Huey Lewis & The News, Imogen Heap, Clams Casino, Tame Impala, Katrina & The Waves, MGMT, A$AP Rocky, Empire Of The Sun, Meek Mill, etc.

I do not think it is some smoking gun (pardon the pun) proof.

Pretty much by definition anyone who kills someone via a sniper shot someone is going to be relatively unique in any group that isn't a group of snipers.

The point was that playing video games provides absolutely no explanation for a motive here -- but being a Groyper would.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20634209

are not what the Trump, FBI and Utah Governor Spencer Cox initially reported.

What do I know? I was drinking beer and trying to hook up at 17 and didn't give a good goddamn about politics.

Federal election laws require you to be 18 to donate.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220633949#post58

I'm seeing that the Tyler Robinson who owned the home at the address in the FEC record owned it from 2019 - 2021.

A 30-something Tyler Robinson from St George, UT shows up in the "peoplefinder" type services - I'm guessing that he's the one that made the donation, not the 22 year old suspect.

Could be wrong.

And is left wing antifa.

The Tyler Robinson from St. George is in southern Utah, whereas the Tyler Robinson involved in the Charlie Kirk shooting was reported in Orem/Provo area in Utah County, which is roughly 300+ miles north of St. George.

That’s his home town and where he lived in 2020.

The school he was going to now is in Orem.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220633949#post58

No, Tyler Robinson—the 22-year-old Utah resident arrested as the suspect in the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk—did not make any donation to a MAGA organization or Donald Trump's 2020 campaign. Social media claims linking him to a $250 donation from St. George, Utah, in 2020 stem from a case of mistaken identity, as the donor is a different person with the same common name. Federal Election Commission (FEC) records show no contributions from the suspect, who is registered to vote as unaffiliated (inactive, with no voting history in recent elections) and has no documented ties to political donations.

https://grok.com/c/4ebad451-1179-44cf-85cc-d07ce8b57995

He would have been 17 years old in 2020 so that seems to be alot of disposable income for a kid to part with.

Link to tweet

I posted the laws on another post. Must be 18.

How does a 17 yo get $225?
And why is he listed as an "Entrepreneur" instead of student?