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OneGrassRoot

(23,821 posts)
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:25 PM 14 hrs ago

I fear age may factor in greatly with what happens next in media and even law enforcement...

and we should all keep it in mind.

The initial reports about trans messaging on the casings ends up being, almost certainly, Groyper messaging. People over a certain age rarely know what the alt-right is and how it evolved and splintered into various factions (Kirk v Fuentes, for example), and their "language."

The messaging on the casings, including the one about Hey fascist, catch this is very much on brand for Groyper (Fuentes faction) messaging. Media may mistake that for "leftist." But it's all of the messages taken in total that add up to Groyper.

It won't make any sense to older people who haven't followed this evolution.

But it's desperately important that people learn so they know what their kids are being exposed to and that, while it may seem like silly nonsense, it's cloaking some really dark, violent shit.

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I fear age may factor in greatly with what happens next in media and even law enforcement... (Original Post) OneGrassRoot 14 hrs ago OP
"Groyper"--just so ya' know (I didn't): Timeflyer 14 hrs ago #1
They're even further right than Kirk. I've followed the alt-right before they were called that... OneGrassRoot 14 hrs ago #3
Yes, according to one poster here, MSNBC's supposed experts are already doing this. RockRaven 14 hrs ago #2
It is bad. And, also, MAGA will now realize... OneGrassRoot 14 hrs ago #4
I don't know what it means. LeftInTX 14 hrs ago #5
While Groypers tend to be very young... OneGrassRoot 14 hrs ago #6
Yup, Groyer and Groyper gaming stuff obamanut2012 13 hrs ago #7

Timeflyer

(3,399 posts)
1. "Groyper"--just so ya' know (I didn't):
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:37 PM
14 hrs ago

ADL--Anti-defamation League website definition.
"Groypers are a loose network of alt right figures who are vocal supporters of white supremacist and “America First” podcaster Nick Fuentes."

OneGrassRoot

(23,821 posts)
3. They're even further right than Kirk. I've followed the alt-right before they were called that...
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:46 PM
14 hrs ago

and followed the evolution of this whole supremacist nightmare made manifest.

RockRaven

(17,943 posts)
2. Yes, according to one poster here, MSNBC's supposed experts are already doing this.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:38 PM
14 hrs ago

Whether that is incompetence or purposeful, either is bad.

OneGrassRoot

(23,821 posts)
4. It is bad. And, also, MAGA will now realize...
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:49 PM
14 hrs ago

they've lost control of their youngest members. There is a civil war within MAGA, especially young MAGA, and Epstein even factors into this re: Kirk.

LeftInTX

(33,694 posts)
5. I don't know what it means.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:55 PM
14 hrs ago

Not enough info yet.

He donated to Trump in 2020, but not in 2024.

At that age, shooters seem to be very fickle.

OneGrassRoot

(23,821 posts)
6. While Groypers tend to be very young...
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:01 PM
14 hrs ago

they're immersed in and embrace white supremacy, antisemitism, etc.

They had beef with Kirk because he wasn't radical enough. Fuentes is the leader of the Groyper Army.

It comes across as absolute nonsense when taken piece by piece. But the picture coming together -- though still nascent -- is pointing in a certain ideological direction, especially given his upbringing and environment.

It's just good for us all to be aware of these various factions, regardless.

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