White nationalists in general are people who believe the US ought to be populated by or at least controlled by white people. Christian nationalists believe the only legitimate religion is Christianity and that the US should be governed by Christians and Christian rules. There is a fair amount of overlap, since the evangelical Christians who want to take over the government are almost all white people, but the two kinds of nationalists are not ideologically identical.

In terms of the the two as social movements there is far less difference. Many white nationalists call themselves Christian nationalists because of the difference in connotation. And unless someone can prove to me otherwise, I believe there is an infinitesimal number of self-identifying Christian nationalists who oppose trump based on his anti-Christian behavior. Many would say that is because he is a means to their ends. I say there are very few Christian nationalists who support him only grudgingly. From my observation, they're all in.

But that's just my opinion.

even though if there's any such thing as the Antichrist, he's it - because he furthers their larger goals.

Gander, goose, six of one, half a dozen of the other.

Yeesh

All the true conservatives have had their party taken over and they have shut up or they have been forced to shut up.

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When the hell did Christian Nationalism become "OK"???

Christian Nationalism is deeply Un-Christian and Un-American. Christian Nationalism encompasses all those other hateful labels. Christian Nationalism is the antithesis of American and Christian Values. Christian Nationalism rejects values that have been our guiding principles as we stumble along the path to a more perfect union -- values like human-rights, rule of law, religious freedom, self-governance, and economic justice, and the thinking underlying those values, among them rationality, compassion as a moral imperative, and scientific inquiry

We need to be Crystal Clear on this. We embrace ALL religions, including Christianity. However, we utterly abhor and oppose Christian Nationalism because Christian Nationalism is a racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, homophobic, transphobic, Un-American, Un-Christian ideology. Christian Nationalist demagogues are hellbent on passing laws that force the rest of us to live in a world controlled by their tragically twisted belief system. Charlie Kirk was one of those demagogues.

In America, you can believe whatever the hell you want, BUT DO NOT try to pass laws that impose those beliefs on people who do not share those beliefs. Do not use public institutions to proselytize

And while we fiercely oppose Christian Nationalism, we utterly reject the use of force or violence to control or silence ANYONE who is acting or speaking in accord with the spirit of our constitution (not the unrecognizable version of that constitution being constructed by the black-robed traitors on SCOTUS).

TX State Rep. James Talarico is a riveting speaker on the topic. I would LOVE to see him in the U.S. Senate!!!

I don't want to get ahead of myself or jinx anything, but what if this WAS the election to do it in TX?

Colin Allred is great, but in our current crisis, a progressive Christian as compelling and talented a communicator as James Talarico is is what we need to meet the moment.

Similarly, I think that Anti-47 people in deep red areas need to get aggressive in recruiting and fundraising for Pro-Impeachment Republican candidates to mount primary challenges. Yes, I want to see Democratic general election challengers EVERYWHERE. We may not flip many seats, but if we aren't in the game, we will never gain ground. We must be running to build strength over time. My 100% support for Democratic candidates is a given, however, in this crisis, if a Republican is onboard with Impeachment and Removal of 47 and his co-conspirator Vance, and their otherwise conservative bonafides win them diehard Republican votes, this nation needs them to step up.

But I switched it on just now and guess who they're talking to?
JAMES TALARICO!
Hallelujah.

I'm sorry I missed it!

Mormons aren't Christians.