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kentuck

(114,591 posts)
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:48 PM 14 hrs ago

The Democrats own it...

What do they own?

There were several well-known Republicans that flew off the handle when they heard that Charlie Kirk has been assassinated. Not knowing any facts, they declared that the "Democrats own it".

Excuse us while we wipe the egg from our faces.

It turns out that the shooter and his family are big Donald Trump supporters. They are Utah Republicans. They are Mormon. You can't get much more Republican than that.

The shooter was a MAGA.

Let's try to process all that.

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The Democrats own it... (Original Post) kentuck 14 hrs ago OP
He was also a member of an opposing right wing group Keepthesoulalive 14 hrs ago #1
MAGAs are going to say he's a one-off.. agingdem 13 hrs ago #10
They never take responsibility for their words and the damage they cause Keepthesoulalive 13 hrs ago #11
No ... I didn't weep or care because UpInArms 11 hrs ago #27
They are going to completely forget this guy, like they have the Butler PA guy. RockRaven 14 hrs ago #2
Trump better call on his Fox "News" team of consultants democrank 13 hrs ago #3
Probably forging "Antifa" credentials for him as we speak. GopherGal 13 hrs ago #8
We don't need no stinkin' "rock solid way" to blame the Dems. It's simple: RVN VET71 11 hrs ago #29
Orange Bastard doesn't give a fucking shit about his dead MAGA sycophant. Piss on those fucking turds. SoFlaBro 13 hrs ago #4
He's already moved on catchnrelease 12 hrs ago #16
Orange Bastard is a piss-soaked, shitstained motherfucker. SoFlaBro 12 hrs ago #17
So trump wants the death penalty for one of his voters? Omnipresent 13 hrs ago #5
Not much to process. Nutters gonna nut...nt Wounded Bear 13 hrs ago #6
Charlie was hoist by his own petard over and over. Irish_Dem 13 hrs ago #7
We are going to see more of this from the far right MaineBlueBear 13 hrs ago #9
Classic Republican M.O..... popsdenver 13 hrs ago #12
I apologize to Vlad "The Impaler" Putin. He appparently didn't set this up. The perpetraror was caught. Unprofessional. usonian 13 hrs ago #13
You had me at awesome pickup truck My friend BOSSHOG 13 hrs ago #15
I am not a car afficionado. I can only afford the one little Forester, but that's out of this world great. usonian 12 hrs ago #18
A right wing civil war mountain grammy 12 hrs ago #20
Wouldn't the world be a much happier place if everyone had one of those trucks? (who wanted one, of course) usonian 12 hrs ago #22
"Old pick-up truck envy" has to include "old car envy". rubbersole 11 hrs ago #25
I think I spotted a Cobra (the automotive kind) on the highway the other day. usonian 11 hrs ago #28
IIRC The Sunbeam came with a Ford 260 cid option at one point. rubbersole 11 hrs ago #30
yes, the 260 was shoe-horned into the chassis. usonian 10 hrs ago #32
I just Googled "Get Smart Cars". rubbersole 11 hrs ago #31
If you didn't care about having clean air MichMan 10 hrs ago #34
No mention of the internals. usonian 10 hrs ago #35
* APOLOGY ACCEPTED * ffr 13 hrs ago #14
You should see the AltRight boards right now (not MAGA shit, the hardcores). This is the start of their war Cheezoholic 12 hrs ago #19
He's a Groyper. This is tribal warfare underpants 11 hrs ago #26
Trump owns it! Emile 12 hrs ago #21
Nazi on Nazi crime Farmer-Rick 12 hrs ago #23
K&R spanone 12 hrs ago #24
Important to name them with the statement that PuraVidaDreamin 10 hrs ago #33

agingdem

(8,631 posts)
10. MAGAs are going to say he's a one-off..
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:25 PM
13 hrs ago

burying the fact that most of the mass murders are white Christians and Trump cultists..but what really pisses off the MAGA assholes is/was our reaction to Kirk's shooting...yes, we acknowledged no one should die at the end of a gun (that includes trash like Kirk) but then we took a page out Charlie's playbook...we didn't weep/we didn't care because Charlie didn't shed a tear or care when...

*Black church members were gunned down in Charlotte
*Latino shoppers were gunned down in El Paso
*Gay club revelers were gunned down in Orlando
*Eldery Jews were gunned down in Pittsburgh
*School children were gunned down in Uvalde/SandyHook/Parkland/Minneapolis
*State representatives were gunned down in Minneapolis
*CDC employees were gunned down in Atlanta
*Diners were gunned down in Boulder

and we offer the same "thoughts and prayers'' to the family...

Keepthesoulalive

(1,766 posts)
11. They never take responsibility for their words and the damage they cause
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:31 PM
13 hrs ago

They always change the narrative and the beat goes on.

UpInArms

(53,377 posts)
27. No ... I didn't weep or care because
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 04:31 PM
11 hrs ago

Charlie said it was worth dying for gun bumpers to shoot up pubic venues ..
Schools, churches, stores, gatherings…

He said not to have empathy because that made people weak

RockRaven

(17,943 posts)
2. They are going to completely forget this guy, like they have the Butler PA guy.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:53 PM
14 hrs ago

The shooting will remain part of the RW lore, the shooter disappears from their minds and words like a fart in the wind.

democrank

(11,754 posts)
3. Trump better call on his Fox "News" team of consultants
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:02 PM
13 hrs ago

to see if anyone can come up with a rock-solid way to blame this murder on those awful, awful Democrats. MAGAs are top-notch reality benders so it might work.

GopherGal

(2,584 posts)
8. Probably forging "Antifa" credentials for him as we speak.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:22 PM
13 hrs ago

Second Lieutenant in the "Antifa Army of Utah" or some such nonexistent organization.

Faking up some sort of funds transfer from Hunter Biden. Or Soros. It's always Soros.

RVN VET71

(2,996 posts)
29. We don't need no stinkin' "rock solid way" to blame the Dems. It's simple:
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 04:39 PM
11 hrs ago

Democrats are communist assassinators and atheists so they killed Charlie Kirk. Period.

What more evidence do you need. And don't give me any of that left-wing jazz about the killer being a Mormon and Trump supporter because so what?

SoFlaBro

(3,641 posts)
4. Orange Bastard doesn't give a fucking shit about his dead MAGA sycophant. Piss on those fucking turds.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:03 PM
13 hrs ago

catchnrelease

(2,099 posts)
16. He's already moved on
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 03:05 PM
12 hrs ago

This morning he's on to bragging about his new ballroom. Charlie who??

Irish_Dem

(74,298 posts)
7. Charlie was hoist by his own petard over and over.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:16 PM
13 hrs ago

The MAGA cult owns this lock stock and barrel.

MaineBlueBear

(286 posts)
9. We are going to see more of this from the far right
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:24 PM
13 hrs ago

As they realize Trump and his minions are weakening their freedoms they'll turn on them.

popsdenver

(428 posts)
12. Classic Republican M.O.....
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:47 PM
13 hrs ago

ANYTHING, and every single last thing spewed from ANY/ALL Republican's mouths is 100%:

Always a flagrant lie

Always blatantly Hypocritical

Always 180 degrees from the Truth or Reality..........

AND 95+% of all U.S. main steam media is owned/operated by Uber Rich Republicans and/or Republican Corporations.............

usonian

(20,313 posts)
13. I apologize to Vlad "The Impaler" Putin. He appparently didn't set this up. The perpetraror was caught. Unprofessional.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:49 PM
13 hrs ago

But if it's a right wing civil war ....

fought with non-lethal weapons



Perhaps the Trump Family can arrange a cage match on the former Rose Garden.

P.S. I don't own that fabulous pickup truck.

usonian

(20,313 posts)
18. I am not a car afficionado. I can only afford the one little Forester, but that's out of this world great.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 03:12 PM
12 hrs ago

Been downhill since then.

mountain grammy

(28,182 posts)
20. A right wing civil war
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 03:15 PM
12 hrs ago

with no collateral damage. Maybe they can actually do one thing right?

Love that truck!

usonian

(20,313 posts)
22. Wouldn't the world be a much happier place if everyone had one of those trucks? (who wanted one, of course)
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 03:24 PM
12 hrs ago

I had a Tacoma, and small as it was, it was a challenge to park it in tight spaces.

Though, I don't recall any spaces so tight that I had to exit the vehicle through the rear window.

I am going to investigate "old pickup truck envy" as a major cause of world angst.
Maybe I can squeeze a PhD out of it.
I've been looking for places that sell them.
A friend once bought me a ministry so I could call myself a minister (probably for tax benefits) but I lost the paperwork.

I miss having crazy friends like that.

rubbersole

(10,468 posts)
25. "Old pick-up truck envy" has to include "old car envy".
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 04:22 PM
11 hrs ago

Your student body will expand exponentially. Plus, the material for your doctoral thesis would be endless. (Start with - '66 Shelby GT-350 Mustang.) Where can I sign up?

usonian

(20,313 posts)
28. I think I spotted a Cobra (the automotive kind) on the highway the other day.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 04:33 PM
11 hrs ago

Could be mistaken. Just a quick glance, as I was going so fast.

Call me old-fashioned, but I always wanted Maxwell Smart's Sunbeam Tiger.




OOOOOOOH

rubbersole

(10,468 posts)
30. IIRC The Sunbeam came with a Ford 260 cid option at one point.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 04:55 PM
11 hrs ago

The 260 was the precursor of the 289 (which was my real love all through Jr high/high school). That would have been an incredibly fast Tiger. Total KAOS.😏

usonian

(20,313 posts)
32. yes, the 260 was shoe-horned into the chassis.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 05:08 PM
10 hrs ago

And please don't mention KAOS.

It is all too common these days.

rubbersole

(10,468 posts)
31. I just Googled "Get Smart Cars".
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 05:01 PM
11 hrs ago

Cool. Don't remember any of the other ones except the Sunbeam. Thanks for posting...made my afternoon. 👋

MichMan

(15,871 posts)
34. If you didn't care about having clean air
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 05:34 PM
10 hrs ago

primitive pollution controls and doesn't meet current safety standards.

usonian

(20,313 posts)
35. No mention of the internals.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 05:46 PM
10 hrs ago

I don't know about safety compliance.

Oddly enough, I got a Datsun pickup long long ago (when there were Datsuns) somewhat because I saw one land on its cab in a James Bond movie with no harm (of course, that was staged).

The point was hypothetical because anything finite of the sort would have to meet current standards.

Before they are degraded further.

ffr

(23,239 posts)
14. * APOLOGY ACCEPTED *
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:56 PM
13 hrs ago

Is what every democrat should be throwing in their faces today.

Unless of course, the GOP incited civil war on democrats to purge the nation of Kirk's assassins wants to start a circular firing squad upon itself. In which case, have at it!

Cheezoholic

(3,272 posts)
19. You should see the AltRight boards right now (not MAGA shit, the hardcores). This is the start of their war
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 03:14 PM
12 hrs ago

This schism in the far right has been there for a long time and its been spreading hot and fast. I have been hanging out in these hate rooms for over 10 years and I'm telling ya, and not wanting to promote violence in any way, this is a good thing. People in California know that when a wildfire starts most of the time it only stops when it burns itself out. All firefighters can do, especially to fast host ones, is try and protect life and property. Occasionally those guardrails break down and you get what happened to LA. But, like most wildfires, they burned themselves out. This could very well end up being a good thing. Nothing fans the flames of hate as more hate, especially upon itself when it runs out of fuel. The far right may be running out of fuel.

Farmer-Rick

(12,055 posts)
23. Nazi on Nazi crime
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 03:34 PM
12 hrs ago

So quick to blame others when it's their own hate groups shooting at each other.

PuraVidaDreamin

(4,344 posts)
33. Important to name them with the statement that
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 05:11 PM
10 hrs ago

Leaders who fly off the handle without measured reason thoughtful deliberation are
Unstable and dangerous for our nation.

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