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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLooks like those who guessed that the shooter would be a maga rwnj
were absolutely correct.

RockRaven
(17,943 posts)Those in charge of further investigation and prosecution will be ideologically, and career advancement-wise, motivated to service that narrative.
relayerbob
(7,269 posts)Attilatheblond
(7,207 posts)
1) He only attended one semester in college
2) Leftist college professors? In Utah? Can't see that happening much. Maybe ONE leftist college professor, probably an anthropologist.
IbogaProject
(4,932 posts)It couldn't have been his Parents, Preacher, or their hunting buddies.
Diraven
(1,546 posts)He was "indoctrinated" in violent far-left liberal ideology because he went to 1 semester of community college (before dropping out), 3 years ago, in the most conservative state in the country.
spooky3
(37,854 posts)róisín_dubh
(12,118 posts)Celerity
(51,891 posts)In 2021, Mr. Robinsons mother posted a video of her son reading a letter in which he said he had received a presidential scholarship to Utah State University worth $32,000. But a university spokeswoman said that Mr. Robinson only attended the university for one semester in 2021, as a pre-engineering major. The school is roughly two hours away from Utah Valley University, where the shooting took place.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/12/us/politics/tyler-robinson-charlie-kirk.html
AdamGG
(1,756 posts)SeattleVet
(5,731 posts)Along with claims that his mother must have been the one that 'groomed' him. Bunch of freaking idiots trying to find a way to keep blame from what Kirk's rhetoric had planted.
Jack Valentino
(3,200 posts)he was a follower of Nick Fuentes, and thus thought Kirk to be
"not far right enough"--- to be somewhat convincing!
Heck, maybe he was a follower of Laura Looney Loomer,
who attacked Kirk several months ago (before deleting those Tweets)
for being a traitor to Donald Trump--- and THAT inspired him to the act....
ANYWAY, starting to look a lot like "right on right violence" to me....
I don't have a dog in that "hunt".
LogDog75
(846 posts)radicalized him with their talk about alternating current.
bucolic_frolic
(52,306 posts)to set out and execute someone in a premeditated manner. No ambiguity. You are right and want the other guy dead.
Generally, liberals understand shades of gray, there is ambiguity in most things in their lives. They are not good candidates for assassins.
IMHO, of course.
multigraincracker
(36,255 posts)O
Cosmocat
(15,272 posts)I made w some friends before we found out the kid came in.
Sneederbunk
(16,669 posts)Farmer-Rick
(12,055 posts)The Grandma came out and said the family was all right-winger Trump supporters. Then there are pictures of him with all sorts of weapons and guns from childhood to adulthood.
His father is in construction and his mother works with disabled people. They have a huge house that looks like they have a lot of wealth. They are Mormons and are probably well connect in the church.
Maybe they weren't as bad and neglectful as Jennifer and James Crumbley but they certainly have many similar characteristics.
Cosmocat
(15,272 posts)They certainly immersed him in MAGA, but it's becoming clear he got sucked into the new age extremist right that targets young white males.
pat_k
(11,699 posts)FadedMullet
(495 posts)pat_k
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uponit7771
(93,230 posts)tonekat
(2,338 posts)I asked one for a list of assassinations by the left, and that he couldn't include Sacco and Vanzetti.
MaineBlueBear
(286 posts)75% rwnj
20% Islamic
4% left wing
1% other
Their governor was hoping it was an immigrant.
Nimble_Idea
(2,821 posts)pat_k
(11,699 posts)I highly recommend this forum. Time codes for sections below.
Wes Moore's promotion and work to expand funding for a service year after high school is something that is truly a step in the right direction. And Spencer Cox has championed a similar program in Utah.
The entire program is worthwhile, but the section with Spencer Cox and Wes Moore (14:01 to 51:29) is a must see for anyone looking for signs of hope in a bleak political landscape.
With Malice Toward None, With Charity for All, 2/21/24
https://www.youtube.com/live/8SFSkWxUxeo
37 minutes
14:01 to 51:29
Keynote: Spencer Cox and Wes Moore
44 minutes
52:15 to 1:28:44
Panel
Dr. Timothy Shriver
Ruth Okejiji
Rachel Brand
Donna Brazile
1:28:30 to 1:55:00
Panel
Rev. Dr. David McAllister-Wilson
Joshua Dubois
Peter Wehner
Judge Thomas Griffith
Dr. Timothy Shriver
Silent Type
(10,967 posts)roamer65
(37,766 posts)🤪🤪🤪🤪
Whats that saying? God works in mysterious ways as does a rwnj with a gun?
Silent Type
(10,967 posts)referred to rightly or wrongly as an incel, looking for notice, needing treatment, etc.
LogDog75
(846 posts)W_HAMILTON
(9,521 posts)markodochartaigh
(3,896 posts)Now I'm going to make another, and more difficult prediction: the sun will rise in the morning.
JanMichael
(25,720 posts)When one group takes over they start killing themselves.
StarryNite
(11,820 posts)I guessed a hired hit man.
Greg_In_SF
(532 posts)hitman would jump off a roof like that risking a leg injury that could lead him to be easily caught. Same goes for leaving shoe, palm, etc. prints.
ms liberty
(10,566 posts)It would have been an older person with a terminal illness and a near term end-date if you know what I mean.
But, I always expected it to be a magat, either disillusioned or internal warfare. They seem to believe in violence.
Picaro
(2,184 posts)We dont have a violent leftist movement in this country. The knee jerk urge to violence is very much a right wing thing these days.
I had absolute confidence that it was a right winger that committed the murder.
I wasn't sure who he was, TBH. When I heard "Charlie Kirk Assassinated" I assumed he was a Democratic politician somewhere killed by a white nationalist. Then when I heard he was a Trumper/Wingnut/White Nationalist, I assumed it was an inside job (but wasn't sure why). Then when I heard he was pushing the Epstein story even though it displeased the Fuhrer, I was 99% sure it was because of that.
blubunyip
(245 posts)based on known statistics about these incidents of high profile gun violence.
Right wing crazies and terrorists have been keeping everyone hostage for a long time in America. And with the rise of the Rump regime, it's no surprise that it's a whole lot worse.
Elect a rapist, get f__ed.
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Google: "High-profile gun violence in the US is marked by frequent mass shootings that have devastated communities nationwide. The rate of mass shootings and gun deaths has increased significantly since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic, with firearms surpassing car accidents as the leading cause of death for children and adolescents."
yourout
(8,575 posts)Queso Delicioso
(64 posts)But I guess it's for the best.
AncientOfDays
(239 posts)Kirk wasn't conservative enough for him.
Old Crank
(6,186 posts)Should be hard to get a taker on the other side of that bet..
58Sunliner
(6,055 posts)AdamGG
(1,756 posts)if he pleads to being a leftist.