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Old Testament Libera

(123 posts)
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 09:42 PM 21 hrs ago

Another repeated lie by Trump regarding California...

Trump keeps saying (a couple of dozen times at least!) it that Los Angeles burned because they (Newsom and CA officials) wouldn't "open the valve" to release the water from the Pacific Northwest - presumably the Columbia River basin. They wouldn't release the water because they have to keep it in the river to protect fishes, which Trump doesn't care about.

As a water system engineer with 45 years' experience, I just need to say that is totally inaccurate.

1. There is no water connection or pipeline from the Pacific Northwest to California. There never has been and never will be.
2. There is a water system from the Sacramento River (State Water Project) down to Los Angeles. That was the one Musk's incel boys tried to turn on to send more water down the pipe. They were kicked out of the station and rightly so.
3. Trump finally prevailed on a Corps of Engineers officer (who does work for Trump) to release 2 billion gallons of water from a big reservoir in California. The water flowed north, away from LA, and went into a dry lakebed to evaporate and be wasted. That water is needed now for agriculture in the Central Valley but it is gone.
4. The municipal water utilities in the LA Basin have a capacity of over 3 billion gallons per day. There was no lack of water. The reason all the houses burned is that the residential areas have smaller pipes (6-inch to 12-inch) and they cannot provide enough water to put out a very intense fire like those that happened. While to put 24-inch and 36-inch pipes in every residential street and ten million gallon water reservoirs on every square mile of residential land is simply impossible. That's what it would take.
5. To entrust your water policy to a bunch of f_____ing idiots is not a good idea. Starting with the top idiot.

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Another repeated lie by Trump regarding California... (Original Post) Old Testament Libera 21 hrs ago OP
Thank you! chowder66 21 hrs ago #1
#3 stands out kwolf68 21 hrs ago #2
K&R canetoad 20 hrs ago #3
Thank you - KT2000 18 hrs ago #4
Exactly love_katz 18 hrs ago #5
I'm always gonna believe the engineers before the politicians. calimary 18 hrs ago #6
There's another thing about the water in L.A. Morbius 18 hrs ago #7
K&R ReRe 18 hrs ago #8

KT2000

(21,707 posts)
4. Thank you -
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 12:46 AM
18 hrs ago

his hallucination included a giant faucet as I recall. He is an idiot and the people who do his bidding are just as bad. They had to have known it was wasting the water.

love_katz

(3,152 posts)
5. Exactly
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 12:51 AM
18 hrs ago

Along the Western edge of the continent, water tends to flow east to west, not north to south. Our big and beautiful mountain ranges are in the way. They channel the water towards the sea. It would take enormous amounts of energy to pump the water from the Columbia River down to California. The amount of energy that would need to be expended would not be justified by the amount of water they could get.
And, those of us in the Pacific Northwest would fight this kind of robbery, tooth and nail. Thanks to climate change, we are not getting enough rain in the valleys and snow in the mountains to fulfill the needs of our region. Wild fires are becoming the new normal, which reduces the capacity of a watershed to hold water.
And, the local First Nations tribes have treaties which bind both state and federal governments to protect the salmon and other resources which are promised to the tribes at all of their historic and accustomed places. Those treaties are binding legal agreements, which have been in existence long before Pisswig and his grifting friends happened on the scene. There would be huge and expensive law suits. I would happily stand with the First Nations people on defending their treaty rights.
Rump is such an idiot! He thinks that because the standard globe depiction of our planet puts the North Pole at the top, that water must flow downhill, from north to south. Go learn something about plate tectonics, stupid orange moron.
My dad used to say that people from the East Coast do not grasp or understand the vastness of the West, nor do they appreciate the fact that a lot of land out here is vertical.

Morbius

(656 posts)
7. There's another thing about the water in L.A.
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 12:58 AM
18 hrs ago


I know it's just a movie, but the plot - rich asshole controls water supply for money - still rings true.

ReRe

(11,872 posts)
8. K&R
Sat Sep 13, 2025, 01:09 AM
18 hrs ago

I cringe every time djt spews what he supposedly "did" for the LA fires. Just another example of how he lies every time he opens his mouth about anything. Thanks for your explanation of why he did not do what he said he did. Your experience speaks the truth!

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