Checking for anti-perfume laws ....

Spray on clothing.

"Glitter bombs" have been used.
One wouldn't want to cause material damage, so to speak.

Not causing them to unmask. Fabric coloring is fairly permanent,

I am sure that the same face recognition that they use could be adapted, though perhaps with more open software tools.

Glitter is "permanent enough" without being "permanent" in a "damages" sense.

Just trying to think of ways to identify, because i'm thinking that they will never be forced to remove masks. I cannot believe, in our great country, these so called law enforcement asshole are allowed to do what they are doing? Someone has the answer, i don't but would love a perfect way to identify them personally.

by the appeals court, or Supreme court. I just don't understand how ICE gets away with it? States should be allowed to stop ICE in their states. At the very least States should be given NAMES of all ICE personal coming to their state, PLUS wages paid each one!! Should be a matter of public record what their wages are!!

It's all connected. Like that old song.
Ohhhh, the pigs bones connected to the law bones..
And the law bones connected to the pay to play bones..which is connected to greed bones...

Damn right they need to take their masks off.
But they are man baby cowards.

At the very least they could be identified for prosecutorial purposes? We need very good lawyers!!

...they can be easily identified and prosecuted; taking their masks off won't make any difference in that case.

I don't understand why people think it's so important to identify them at the time of the operations.

There are thousands of ICE, so how to get the one that commits the crime? Please explain.

Then shown to local prosecutors for them to decide if, by what they see, a crime has been committed? You don't need a name in order to see if someone is committing a crime.

If the local prosecutors feel they are committing a crime, they can seek warrants to have the feds identify them, and proceed from there.

No way.

...then what is the point of seeing their faces and knowing their names?

Christ you need PROOF who that person is. WTF?

You already said that they won't be prosecuted. So if they won't be prosecuted, why do you need their names?

You don't have a point.

to be more aggressive, violent, and cruel than if they feared being immediately identified on social media-- or, worse yet, by friends/neighbors/family who are unaware that they have gone full jackbooted thug.

They claim they are concerned about "retaliation" (i.e. having done unto them) but the court of public opinion is what they truly fear.

...what the point of unmasking them is and what will gained by it.

They are wearing masks for all the reasons you keep denying

I'm simply asking what is gained by unmasking them.

The behavior isn't going to be changed, which is what we all want, so what is the actual point?

DO NOT FEED THE MAGATS!!!!🤣🤣🤣

behaving like storm troopers, not legitimate law enforcement.

to brutalize people. See how that works?

You're the one making the case for taking off the masks, so make it.

It’s on YOU to make a case for a departure from the norm.

law-breaking police personnel are masked. Moreover, imitators can impersonate masked law officers more easily. For the purpose of legal purposes, arresting officials are in power and can physically or sexually abuse those they arrest. Those arrested have a civil right to know who arrested them.

How?

If I have an interaction with a police officer, how would them not having a mask make it obvious to me they are or aren't an imposter?

I would have to somehow memorize the faces of every single police officer in order to know they are legitimate.

as the mask is off?

How do we do anything about it? We need a starting point. That's all i'm thinking.

the masks -- that changes none of the behavior you want to change, which is why I always push back against it.

And empowers them to act outside their parameters
Like when those agents tried to steal food from the restaurant they raided
Cops don't wear mask and have badge numbers
It's for accountability

windows of your $80,000 car merely because you've refused to depart your safe space due to fear for your life, is adequate to press legal action.

of their brutality. As individuals, they’re *actively* choosing their employer—they weren’t drafted; they applied for the job and by all reports are well compensated. Require them to show their faces, just as the rest of us must show our faces in public and bear the consequences. (Also, they should have no choice to turn off body cams. They’re OUR employees and we have every reason to expect to be able to monitor the on-the-job interactions of our armed employees.)

but if you think for one second one of those thugs deserve a warm hug at church, PTA, big family dinners, recognition in family/community e-mail/text groups (they’re not really private anymore), etc., I guess you’re a better person than I am. They signed up to be thugs so I’ll hit them (and those who support this brutality) closest to home. I’ve had to do it with my hateful, racist sister, so I can do it with people I don’t even know.

We know how to govern.

Is this good enough for you?

It doesn’t work with me (or you, apparently).

CBS News
https://www.cbsnews.com › losangeles › news › california-legislature-bill-law-enforcement-face-coverings

California Legislature passes bill banning most law enforcement from ...

5 days agoLawmakers in California passed a bill on Thursday banning most local and federal law enforcement officers from covering their faces during

...in trying to enforce it.

If something could be gained from unmasking them, I wish someone would tell me what it is.

For your viewing pleasure:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20640614

Thanks for an actual answer, i.e., you want them doxed.

I think the video you linked to is hilarious, and I support it 100%; it's in a public space, and something similar could be done to ICE agents whether they have their masks on or off.

But tracking down their personal information - where they live, where their spouse lives, where their kids go to school? Sorry, I don't support that.

Please elaborate.

And welcome to DU.

The guy did not have a mask on. He had an over sprayed grayish fluff on the top of his head and a beard to match. Seemed to flaunt it.

The way he justified the stop based on "Trying to make America safe again," was despicable.

Point is, after seeing his face, I understand why they opt for masks.

I just gotta wonder how Americans would take to ALL law enforcement, (police, hi-way patrol, sheriff and all deputies) decide to start wearing masks and no id badges?

Remember the Nuremberg Trials.

2026 is gonna be very interesting.

He was on MSNBC. He said "his" men had to wear masks because they are getting "thousands" of threats every day. Point being that if they can be recognized (by whom?) they would be endangered. (Sorry that I didn't catch his name.)

This is a matter that must be decided by the courts and/or Congress. Masked thugs breaking into homes and cars, or throwing protestors roughly to the ground must stop.

Call your Repug Senators -- especially in red states. Resistance only works if attacked at multiple levels and by many people.

Picture this for a second, driving down the Hi-way a hi-way patrol person MASKED, with NO ID comes to your door? Then picture every police, sheriff deputy sheriffs, and Federal police doing the same? SCARY huh?

these thugs signed up for. They weren’t drafted.

the mask thing anyway. Is there an official reason? I mean, aren't these the same fucks that wouldn't wear masks during COVID because government wasn't going to tell them what to do?

I believe they were told to wear them, because most of them are the STAND BACK and STAND BY ASSHOLES (plus other gang types). These are the type of people that would turn in their mother and father during the hitler years.

but carrying proper identity for the same reason why police officers are unmasked, have badges with numbers or other information identifying them as law enforcement, bodycams, and who disclose (usually) what people are being arrested for or charged with.

Whether or not it makes a difference in their behavior, or the ultimate outcome.

Not to mention reports of people being abducted by unidentified (people), for reasons often undisclosed, and even reports of assaults by masked individuals impersonating "law enforcement."

The possibilities for abuse and misuse are endless, we all know the shit storm that would be occurring if a Democratic adminstration pulled this,

and I find it hard to believe anyone would be defending it.

Like i said before, just imagine if ALL law enforcers decided to start doing the same thing.

I what I want to say... I wouldn't be allowed to. Not by DU's rules.

Take them to a magistrate judge.