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surfered

(9,304 posts)
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 11:43 AM Saturday

Trump Increases Fee for H1B visas to $100,000

Just after Oklahoma announces plan to hire teachers from Mexico, due to the state’s teacher shortage.

It’s hard to plan with the King of Chaos.

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Trump Increases Fee for H1B visas to $100,000 (Original Post) surfered Saturday OP
Not a single day can go by without some stupid Klarkashton Saturday #1
Per year AND offer discount as they see fit underpants Saturday #2
20+ years in biopharma, the program is being abused to avoid paying higher wages to Americans. WarGamer Saturday #5
$750-$1500 administrative fees. n/t Ms. Toad Saturday #6
I couldn't get the text or posts fully post here. ??? underpants Saturday #11
Will be challenged in courts dweller Saturday #3
Why would Dems challenge? WarGamer Saturday #4
I don't know if anyone will challenge dweller Saturday #10
Why would Dems challenge a popular policy like this? pcdb Saturday #18
It would be terrible for us politically to challenge pinkstarburst Saturday #8
I don't disagree with you; however, The Madcap Saturday #12
I think this move stems from bad motives milestogo Saturday #13
Everything they do stems from bad motives, obviously pinkstarburst Saturday #14
They made them related to entry and visa stamps renewal to bypass congesss uponit7771 Saturday #15
Certifiably insane policy. The Madcap Saturday #7
Trump has little understanding of money. He had over 400 million from his daddy, had bailouts when his Doodley Saturday #9
The administration has created a loophole that allows them to offer a $100,00 discount to any person the administration LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #16
Why would anyone even want to come here at this point? LS0999 Saturday #17
Pedoprez TACO 'd uponit7771 7 hrs ago #19
clown show continues... democratsruletheday 3 hrs ago #20
They can decide whether to exempt a company JI7 3 hrs ago #21

underpants

(193,070 posts)
2. Per year AND offer discount as they see fit
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 11:47 AM
Saturday

Critical part of the President's new $100,000 charge for H1-B visas: The Administration can also offer a $100,000 discount to any person, company, or industry that it wants. Replacing rules with arbitrary discretion.

Want visas? You know who to call and who to flatter.


This will be absolutely devastating in the medical field.

~30% residents are international medical graduates & ~10k of 43k residency spots are filled by docs with H1-B visas.

Previously the h-1B fee was

WarGamer

(17,907 posts)
5. 20+ years in biopharma, the program is being abused to avoid paying higher wages to Americans.
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 12:01 PM
Saturday

The AFL-CIO agrees.

dweller

(27,135 posts)
3. Will be challenged in courts
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 11:56 AM
Saturday

Only Congress can set fees … blah blah
Dems will have to challenge

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WarGamer

(17,907 posts)
4. Why would Dems challenge?
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 12:00 PM
Saturday

Nowadays H-1B are being used for lower mid range positions... to avoid paying Americans a fair wage.

The purpose of the program is for companies to be able to hire foreign workers with *exceptional skill sets not common in the US job market.

The AFL-CIO has railed against the program.

dweller

(27,135 posts)
10. I don't know if anyone will challenge
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 12:26 PM
Saturday

Doubt repugs will , so if anyone will it would have to be Dems .
Again , Congress sets fees , not Pisswig
Of course legal orgs could challenge


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pcdb

(56 posts)
18. Why would Dems challenge a popular policy like this?
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 07:33 PM
Saturday

If you worked for a company that's replaced around 80% of your development team with H-1Bs because they can pay them less, you're going to celebrate this decision. It's not just unions opposing H-1Bs, it's pretty much any white-collar working class American.

Democrats will get crushed if they side with Elon on this issue.

pinkstarburst

(1,809 posts)
8. It would be terrible for us politically to challenge
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 12:24 PM
Saturday

The H1B program is horribly abused, and it's abused so that companies can fire American workers making good wages--like people in tech, and replace them with immigrant workers that they pay a slave wage to. Computer science grads are finding they are not able to get hired and H1B abuse is a huge part of that. The program was intended so that companies could hire workers when there were no Americans available to work that job. Instead Silicon Valley has become mostly H1B hires, while US computer science grads can't find jobs.

It's being horribly abused.

And if Democrats were to be crazy enough to jump on the bandwagon of trying to support H1B workers from India and their right to American jobs, over US workers who are being fired in order to give those H1B workers from India their jobs, it would be political suicide.

There is sympathy for what is happening to immigrants right now IMHO in large part because the image in many people's minds is that these are hard working people who are working out in the fields and working in meat packing plants and doing jobs US citizens really don't want to do. Watch how fast voters turn on democrats if we start making the argument that we should be for protecting H1B abuse when US citizens are having good, high-paying tech jobs taken from them, and when they can't get rehired, and when new grads can't get hired, and our argument is "but those Indian H1B visa holders should have a job, too."

It's like we want to lose elections...

The Madcap

(1,467 posts)
12. I don't disagree with you; however,
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 12:38 PM
Saturday

it's going to take serious time to replace the H1B workers with Americans who will require training, onboarding, etc. My gut feeling is that the companies will just eat the bribe and just charge even more.

milestogo

(21,823 posts)
13. I think this move stems from bad motives
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 12:38 PM
Saturday

but I do agree that the H1B program as it stands is abused and I would not be disappointed to see it reformed or ended.

pinkstarburst

(1,809 posts)
14. Everything they do stems from bad motives, obviously
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 02:04 PM
Saturday

This plays into his favorite rhetoric of racism and immigration.

But in this case they may have accidentally stumbled upon something that genuinely needs fixing, a system that WAS and IS being abused by companies to fire US workers from good, high paying tech jobs so they can replace them with H1B visa workers when candidates for those jobs are not scarce or hard to find. They're just gaming the system to avoid having to pay a decent wage to American workers, and that if democrats were to oppose it, that would be incredibly politically unpopular for us. With tech workers. With YOUNG people, who are frustrated they are entering the job market with college degrees and aren't getting hired for tech jobs, while companies are hiring... H1Bs.

This is lose lose for us. It's also one of those things where it's been a problem forever, and was not fixed under the last administration (our watch) and if we make even the smallest bit of noise about it, Trump is going to swing right back around with how he's trying to protect US jobs for US workers and there's too much H1B abuse and why didn't Biden fix this when he was president and we won't have a good answer for that one, because in this instance, he'll be right.

This is the sort of thing I think is really dangerous for us, even more so than when they're doing crazy stuff. People just get angrier when they're doing the crazy stuff like pulling vaccine access. When they do this stuff and it's actually fixing stuff that needed fixing and touching on RW rhetoric... we could stand to lose ground. We need to come up with ideas for what we're running on for 2026. This worries me.

The Madcap

(1,467 posts)
7. Certifiably insane policy.
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 12:12 PM
Saturday

So he is going to whipsaw companies into paying what are effectively bribes. How fast does he think these people could be replaced with trained Americans? It would likely take years, unless he intends to just replace them with AI.

If so, get ready for the "Six Finger Death Punch" to our economy.

Doodley

(11,382 posts)
9. Trump has little understanding of money. He had over 400 million from his daddy, had bailouts when his
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 12:26 PM
Saturday

businesses failed, has never had to worry about being financially responsible. If he had just put Daddy's money in the stock exchange, he'd be richer. Plus, he's a moron who now has dementia. He hasn't a clue the impact this will have on businesses. Not a clue.

LetMyPeopleVote

(169,950 posts)
16. The administration has created a loophole that allows them to offer a $100,00 discount to any person the administration
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 03:10 PM
Saturday

trump may be waiving this fee for companies who contribute to trump's projects



LS0999

(251 posts)
17. Why would anyone even want to come here at this point?
Sat Sep 20, 2025, 03:23 PM
Saturday

This is Trump pretending to give his base some red meat. I'm sure there's lots of pay for play exemptions.

JI7

(92,656 posts)
21. They can decide whether to exempt a company
Mon Sep 22, 2025, 08:55 AM
3 hrs ago

So the big businesses with lots of money will just give money to Trump directly and they don't have to pay this.

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