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Mon Sep 22, 2025, 12:51 AM 15 hrs ago

Some Americans don't like immigrants, and THAT'S why we have this policy of criminality and abusive removal

...and the people in the U.S. who support criminalizing all migrants who run afoul of our immigration laws, hide their antipathies behind what are vastly unfounded fears and outright lies that our politicians have taught Americans to use when they mob up against migrants in our legislatures and railroad them out of the country in Potemkin, Kafka-like hearings with 'administrative' judges meting out criminal penalties of punishment against mostly working people and their families like they're terrorists.

The economic argument against 'illegal' immigration is pure bullshit.

from 'Americans for Tax Fairness' in March:

In 2022 America’s 10.9 million undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in taxes.

..That included $19.5 billion in federal income taxes and $32.3 billion in federal payroll taxes.
..On a state and local level, undocumented immigrants contribute $37.3 billion in taxes, and in 40 of 50 states, they pay a higher effective state/local tax rate than the top 1% of households. The top 1% of highest-income households paid an average effective state/local tax of 7.2% in 2023, while the average undocumented immigrant paid a 10.1% effective tax rate to state/local governments.
..It is estimated that $40 to $137 billion of additional revenue could be generated each year if these people were granted work authorization. This is because a less exploitable workforce would be paid higher wages (thus pay more taxes) and tax compliance by both employers and employees would increase.

Undocumented Immigrants paid an effective federal income tax rate of 5.27% in 2022, which was higher than some of the wealthiest Americans and mega corporations.

..According to ProPublica’s released tax data from the 400 highest-income individuals, undocumented immigrants paid a higher effective tax rate than five of the richest Americans.
..Undocumented immigrants also paid a higher effective tax rate than 55 mega corporations. Here is a list of the Fortune 500 corporations that paid less that same year. These corporations had a combined pre-tax income of nearly $200 billion but paid just $3.7 billion in federal income tax, 90% less than undocumented immigrants.

Undocumented Immigrants make significant contributions to our economy.

Undocumented Immigrants make up around 5% of the total workforce, but play even larger roles in key industries: 1-in-7 construction workers, 1-in-8 agriculture workers, and 1-in-14 hospital workers.

Deporting millions of undocumented workers would shrink the economy by $1.1 to $1.7 trillion, a more devastating contraction than what happened during the 2008 financial crisis.

https://americansfortaxfairness.org/undocumented-immigrants-contribute-economy/


...the argument that they are a threat is belied by who is actually getting deported at the height of the most discriminatory and arbitrary enforcement scheme ever in our nation's history:

Cato Institute's June 20, 2025 report states that as of June 14, ICE had 204,297 book-ins in FY2025, with 65% (133,687) having no criminal convictions and over 93% never convicted of violent offenses, based on ICE data.

New nonpublic data from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) indicate that the government is primarily detaining individuals with no criminal convictions of any kind. Also, among those with criminal convictions, they are overwhelmingly not the violent offenses that ICE continuously uses to justify its deportation agenda. ICE has shared this data with people outside the agency, who shared the numbers with the Cato Institute.

As of June 14, ICE had booked into detention 204,297 individuals (since October 1, 2024, the start of fiscal year 2025). Of those book-ins, 65 percent, or 133,687 individuals, had no criminal convictions. Moreover, more than 93 percent of ICE book-ins were never convicted of any violent offenses. About nine in ten had no convictions for violent or property offenses.

During the first two weeks of June, ICE brought into its custody nearly 927 non-criminals. That represents a roughly threefold increase compared to the rate of non-criminals booked in during the first week of this administration.

This understates the change in interior enforcement against non-criminals. This is mainly because ICE also books some people into custody who were originally detained by Border Patrol. Hence, the pre-Trump numbers include many non-criminals who had never lived in the United States before. Since then, the Trump administration has put Border Patrol in charge of mass deportation in California, and it is making interior arrests all along both the Mexican and Canadian borders. This means that the pre-Trump and post-Trump numbers are not directly comparable. We cannot say for certain how many peaceful individuals are being whisked off America’s streets by government agents.

ICE also books individuals who have pending criminal charges into custody. As of June 14, the agency had booked 44,897 individuals with only a pending charge. The agency sometimes erroneously calls these people “criminals,” even without a conviction. This is wrong. We believe in due process in America because many people charged are never ultimately convicted.

ICE admitted in court that it considers even people whose charges were dismissed to still be a “criminal” for purposes of removal, and many immigrants with pending charges are never convicted. For instance, ICE terminated the legal status of international student Suguru Onda for a dismissed fishing-related citation. The same thing happened to Akshar Patel, another international student, with a dismissed reckless driving charge. When ICE deports people without giving them their day in court, it not only deprives them of their right to clear their name but also denies justice to victims if they are guilty.

Regardless, ICE also hasn’t listed what the charges are for, and we know that it is slapping thousands of “illegal entry” charges on long-time residents to brand them as criminals and force California and other states to help deport them.

Nonetheless, focusing on people without pending charges or convictions, the difference in policy is indescribable. ICE doesn’t separately report the criminal status of book-in specifically from ICE arrests. But ICE’s public numbers on its currently detained population reveal a ninefold increase in immigrants being arrested by ICE and locked up by ICE for no other reason than their immigration status.

If we look at the net increase in immigrants detained by ICE after an ICE arrest, 70 percent of the increase in detention has come from people without criminal convictions.

https://www.cato.org/blog/65-people-taken-ice-had-no-convictions-93-no-violent-convictions


...yes, some immigrants commit crimes. But a 2024 study showed that immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than U.S.-born Americans.

There is also state level research, that shows similar results: researchers at the CATO Institute, a libertarian think tank, looked into Texas in 2019. They found that undocumented immigrants were 37.1% less likely to be convicted of a crime.

Beyond incarceration rates, research also shows that there is no correlation between undocumented people and a rise in crime. Recent investigations by The New York Times and The Marshall Project found that between 2007 and 2016, there was no link between undocumented immigrants and a rise in violent or property crime in those communities.

The reason for this gap in criminal behavior might have to do with stability and achievement. The Stanford study concludes that first-generation male immigrants traditionally do better than U.S-.born men who didn't finish high school, which is the group most likely to be incarcerated in the U.S.

The study also suggests that there's a real fear of getting in trouble and being deported within immigrant communities. Far from engaging in criminal activities, immigrants mostly don't want to rock the boat.

https://www.npr.org/2024/03/08/1237103158/immigrants-are-less-likely-to-commit-crimes-than-us-born-americans-studies-find


So, there it is.

If you're encouraging or enabling the criminalization of all migrants that run afoul of our immigration laws, encouraging or advocating along with politicians who threaten and deny migrants' basic human rights and dignity, you're advantaging all of that punitive action on top of LIES politicians have revived from our nation's racist past to curry the favor of Americans fearful of and hateful toward mostly Mexicans, Latin Americans, and Asians, and perpetuate and expand that prevaricating racism across the country.

There is no other justification for criminalizing immigration, and enforcing the laws with such brutality and inhumanity which stand up to facts and reason, other than Americans own antipathy and undue fears.

Why won't our politicians tell us the truth? Why do so many in our own party continue to politic and legislate on top of these lies, even as we watch the unconscionable treatment of so many working people and their families?

Why is it more important to our leaders to assuage the ignorant and uninformed in the country in their demonization and scapegoating of our foreign-born co-workers and neighbors, than it is to stand up for human dignity?

We won't get to anything resembling justice or morality in this by continuing to ignore the damnable truth about what our nation has done and why; how most of the people of our nation have advantaged those lies in the hope or desire that the hapless source of their inflamed fear and animus would just go away.

We need to demand our politicians tell us the truth about immigrants in America, and act on that, instead of punishing migrants for our politicians' projections, and their cowardice toward confronting the racists and bigots in society who have cowed so many of us for centuries with their absolute bullshit.

We can fucking see them.


earlier post:

America's criminalization of immigration has proven itself an abomination to humanity
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220661364
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