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OrlandoDem2

(3,116 posts)
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 02:14 PM Yesterday

This shows how out of touch Morning Joe and MSNBC are.

So I was watching that show this morning and they were blathering on about how Democrats were going to get blamed for the shutdown and how they have no plan.

To be fair one person mentioned an ABC poll favorable to the Democrats. However they still kept piling on.

The media are so out of touch. They ought to be hammering the GOP for failing to obtain the necessary votes to open the government. Instead they blame the Democrats for poor messaging. Idiots.

Well, here we go.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna235141

WASHINGTON — The U.S. government is shut down, and Americans are more inclined to blame President Donald Trump and Republicans for it, according to four independent, national polls conducted just before or during the funding lapse.

But there is fluidity in the political fight, as the surveys show a significant share of voters aren't sure who to blame. The shutdown is only in its second day, as Republicans and Democrats sharpen their messages, and it's not clear how long the impasse will last.

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This shows how out of touch Morning Joe and MSNBC are. (Original Post) OrlandoDem2 Yesterday OP
The billionaire owners are obeying Mango Mussolini in advance...they have all 3 parts of this JT45242 Yesterday #1
Hunter's laptop tmars505 23 hrs ago #10
I thought it required 60 votes to pass. Chuuku Davis 12 hrs ago #20
If I remember correctly, filibuster has been suspended for this before JT45242 10 hrs ago #21
Yep. Turned it off. Lazy opinionating. Raven123 Yesterday #2
Turned off Morning Joe day after the election, I'm happier for it. dem4decades Yesterday #3
I turned Rebl2 23 hrs ago #8
Moi aussi! Mme. Defarge 22 hrs ago #11
I have not watched this show since Joe and Mika went to Mar-a-Lago LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #4
Me neither Wifes husband 23 hrs ago #7
Me either. Solomon 20 hrs ago #14
As far as messaging goes, I know one reason the Dems are holding out: ACA subsidies. maxsolomon Yesterday #5
No plan "B" No plan "B" Meka tried to make a point doc03 Yesterday #6
Someone Rebl2 23 hrs ago #9
Mika was pretty good--she was ghosted, talked over.. Ars Longa 22 hrs ago #12
It's a Republican show. I usually switch to CSpan at 7am Emile 22 hrs ago #13
Me too. Solomon 20 hrs ago #15
They aren't out of touch, they're corporately owned, capitalist driven media. BlueTsunami2018 20 hrs ago #16
That's not out of touch. That's complicit. Iggo 19 hrs ago #17
The WaPo poll said 30% blamed D's, 23% didn't know, 47% blamed R's. intheflow 16 hrs ago #18
Morning Joe is awful, devoted to bothsiderism at best, and GoodRaisin 12 hrs ago #19
Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski went to Mar-a-Lago right after the election. Emile 10 hrs ago #22

JT45242

(3,649 posts)
1. The billionaire owners are obeying Mango Mussolini in advance...they have all 3 parts of this
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 02:19 PM
Yesterday

The (R) party has the majority in both houses of congress and the white house. That means they are literally the ones to blame.

If they all voted as one, even if dems voted against it as a unified block of votes, everything that they would want would pass.

So, how can the minority party be to blame.

I know -- billionaire owners of the means of production and media blame dems for everything -- all the time.

JT45242

(3,649 posts)
21. If I remember correctly, filibuster has been suspended for this before
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 04:47 AM
10 hrs ago
plus, republicans could end filibuster in Senate if they want to.

maxsolomon

(37,462 posts)
5. As far as messaging goes, I know one reason the Dems are holding out: ACA subsidies.
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 02:54 PM
Yesterday

Which are expiring because the Repukes wouldn't renew.

If there is another reason I haven't heard it.

doc03

(38,462 posts)
6. No plan "B" No plan "B" Meka tried to make a point
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 03:01 PM
Yesterday

yesterday but Joe yelled over her. She looked really pissed.

Rebl2

(17,047 posts)
9. Someone
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 04:39 PM
23 hrs ago

needs to do an intervention and rescue Mika from Joe blow. He has brainwashed her. Her father must be turning over in his grave.

Emile

(37,974 posts)
13. It's a Republican show. I usually switch to CSpan at 7am
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:14 PM
22 hrs ago

and watch Washington Journal. Listening to dumb ass Republicans calling in is great entertainment.

BlueTsunami2018

(4,648 posts)
16. They aren't out of touch, they're corporately owned, capitalist driven media.
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 07:02 PM
20 hrs ago

They’re doing what they’re paid to do. I don’t know why anyone would expect them to tell the truth as it applies to well, anything.

MSNBC isn’t on the side of anything except making money.

intheflow

(29,777 posts)
18. The WaPo poll said 30% blamed D's, 23% didn't know, 47% blamed R's.
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 11:05 PM
16 hrs ago

That’s a 17 point spread between people with strong opinions about who’s responsible for the shut down. Even if only 10% of the undecideds end up joining us in blaming the R’s, that will be 57%, a clear majority. They really think the entire 23% will swing authoritarian? It’s bullshit upon bullshit because most of these clowns only know how to report on horse races that they help stage.

GoodRaisin

(10,550 posts)
19. Morning Joe is awful, devoted to bothsiderism at best, and
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 03:37 AM
12 hrs ago

providing Republicans a platform for delivering their lies. Not worth getting out of bed to watch.

Emile

(37,974 posts)
22. Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski went to Mar-a-Lago right after the election.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 04:54 AM
10 hrs ago

That's something I will never forget.

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