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orangecrush

(26,896 posts) Thu Oct 2, 2025, 04:07 PM 23 hrs ago

I have seen some posters claiming the Chicago ICE raid was unsubstantiated

That there was no footage.

WTAF?

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I have seen some posters claiming the Chicago ICE raid was unsubstantiated (Original Post) orangecrush 23 hrs ago OP

Kick dalton99a 23 hrs ago #1

"This is what I voted for!" "Thank you ice" "America can't thank I.C.E., FBI, and Border patrol agents enough! " progressoid 23 hrs ago #2

Bush 43 made a similar lie near election day in 2004. John1956PA 22 hrs ago #8

I just finished dinner, no way am I looking those sewer sites up irisblue 22 hrs ago #11

I still say using Budget & U-Haul trucks dflprincess 22 hrs ago #3

Stand back and CivicGrief 22 hrs ago #4

Yes. And u-haul said they would not allow this any longer. travelingthrulife 22 hrs ago #5

Do you think thugs would hesitate to lie? Could be that U Haul is being lied to by renters. Hekate 22 hrs ago #6

Of course ICE lied. Now that it has been documented, Budget should never rent to ICE again. nt SunSeeker 19 hrs ago #25

UHaul's Reservation "Advisements" tell you not to. nilram 22 hrs ago #9

UHaul should never rent to ICE again for violating the rental agreement. SunSeeker 19 hrs ago #26

I agree orangecrush 22 hrs ago #10

LOL popsdenver 21 hrs ago #18

More Bernardo de La Paz 22 hrs ago #7

Thank you orangecrush 22 hrs ago #12

U.S. Attorney General ain't worth s***. elleng 21 hrs ago #15

This deserves many kicks!! bluestarone 22 hrs ago #13

Thank you orangecrush 20 hrs ago #20

It is illegal to transport human beings in U-haul and Budget moving trucks. SunSeeker 22 hrs ago #14

Is this a case of TSF's goons riding in rental vehicles? Wednesdays 21 hrs ago #19

It also violates every truck rental agreement. Budget should stop renting to ICE. SunSeeker 20 hrs ago #22

KNR niyad 21 hrs ago #16

Pritzker and Johnson are making sure there's footage of ICE everywhere they go. For evidence. ancianita 21 hrs ago #17

Exactly. Nobody here is denying this happened. But we need it documented to push back on Trump's disinfo. SunSeeker 19 hrs ago #24

Well, there are witnesses. soldierant 20 hrs ago #21

Why the fuck is Chicago PD doing nothing about the theft and destruction of US citizen's property? SunSeeker 20 hrs ago #23

dalton99a

(90,491 posts)

1. Kick

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 04:13 PM

23 hrs ago

progressoid

(52,051 posts)

2. "This is what I voted for!" "Thank you ice" "America can't thank I.C.E., FBI, and Border patrol agents enough! "

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 04:35 PM

23 hrs ago

Take a look at right wing media and you'll get an idea of what the other side is seeing and saying.

John1956PA

(4,506 posts)

8. Bush 43 made a similar lie near election day in 2004.

Reply to progressoid (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:34 PM

22 hrs ago

He claimed there was a successful combat action near Fallujah, Iraq. Actually, the battle was yet be engaged. It indeed turned into a fierce battle which did not end until six weeks later.

irisblue

(36,114 posts)

11. I just finished dinner, no way am I looking those sewer sites up

Reply to progressoid (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:38 PM

22 hrs ago

dflprincess

(29,042 posts)

3. I still say using Budget & U-Haul trucks

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 04:57 PM

22 hrs ago

Has Proud Boys written all over it.

CivicGrief

(235 posts)

4. Stand back and

Reply to dflprincess (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:02 PM

22 hrs ago

stand by. (Still can’t believe this debate answer was not called out for what it was: a call to arms.)

travelingthrulife

(3,390 posts)

5. Yes. And u-haul said they would not allow this any longer.

Reply to dflprincess (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:07 PM

22 hrs ago

Hekate

(99,648 posts)

6. Do you think thugs would hesitate to lie? Could be that U Haul is being lied to by renters.

Reply to travelingthrulife (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:09 PM

22 hrs ago

SunSeeker

(56,840 posts)

25. Of course ICE lied. Now that it has been documented, Budget should never rent to ICE again. nt

Reply to Hekate (Reply #6)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 08:18 PM

19 hrs ago

nilram

(3,356 posts)

9. UHaul's Reservation "Advisements" tell you not to.

Reply to travelingthrulife (Reply #5)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:36 PM

22 hrs ago

https://www.uhaul.com/Reservations/ReservationAdvisements.aspx

Customer and any Authorized Driver shall:

Require passengers to ride only in the cab of the U-Haul Vehicle or Tow Vehicle towing any Towable Equipment;

I'm sure these guys take it seriously.

SunSeeker

(56,840 posts)

26. UHaul should never rent to ICE again for violating the rental agreement.

Reply to nilram (Reply #9)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 08:21 PM

19 hrs ago

Just like UHaul stopped renting to a neo-nazi group for transporting people in a UHaul.
https://www.kbtx.com/2025/05/29/u-haul-bans-white-supremacist-members-who-rented-trucks-downtown-demonstration/

orangecrush

(26,896 posts)

10. I agree

Reply to dflprincess (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:38 PM

22 hrs ago

Typical Nazi m.o.

popsdenver

(581 posts)

18. LOL

Reply to dflprincess (Reply #3)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 06:16 PM

21 hrs ago

when one shows up in a neighborhood and just has come to a stop, someone should run up and throw a padlock on the latch......

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,171 posts)

7. More

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:10 PM

22 hrs ago

orangecrush

(26,896 posts)

12. Thank you

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:38 PM

22 hrs ago

elleng

(140,920 posts)

15. U.S. Attorney General ain't worth s***.

Reply to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #7)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:46 PM

21 hrs ago

bluestarone

(20,394 posts)

13. This deserves many kicks!!

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:43 PM

22 hrs ago

Many!!

orangecrush

(26,896 posts)

20. Thank you

Reply to bluestarone (Reply #13)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 06:54 PM

20 hrs ago

SunSeeker

(56,840 posts)

14. It is illegal to transport human beings in U-haul and Budget moving trucks.

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 05:43 PM

22 hrs ago

https://www.illinoislegalaid.org/legal-information/can-you-ride-back-truck-or-towed-vehicle

Wednesdays

(20,871 posts)

19. Is this a case of TSF's goons riding in rental vehicles?

Reply to SunSeeker (Reply #14)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 06:43 PM

21 hrs ago

If so, when have they ever given deference to laws?

SunSeeker

(56,840 posts)

22. It also violates every truck rental agreement. Budget should stop renting to ICE.

Reply to Wednesdays (Reply #19)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 07:35 PM

20 hrs ago

UHaul stopped rending to neo-nazis when they put people in the back of their rental trucks:
“If an individual is in good standing with us, we will rent to them,” Lockridge said. “If an individual commits illegal acts using our equipment, misuses our equipment, or violates their rental contract, we reserve the right to take away their rental privileges. That happened in this instance.”
https://www.kbtx.com/2025/05/29/u-haul-bans-white-supremacist-members-who-rented-trucks-downtown-demonstration/

niyad

(127,664 posts)

16. KNR

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 06:04 PM

21 hrs ago

ancianita

(42,077 posts)

17. Pritzker and Johnson are making sure there's footage of ICE everywhere they go. For evidence.

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 06:06 PM

21 hrs ago

SunSeeker

(56,840 posts)

24. Exactly. Nobody here is denying this happened. But we need it documented to push back on Trump's disinfo.

Reply to ancianita (Reply #17)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 07:54 PM

19 hrs ago

That is Pritzker's point.

For example, this witness provided a harrowing account, but if she had videotaped it, it would have been on the evening news:

Ebony Sweets Watson, who lives across the street from the raided building, told the Chicago Sun-Times that she saw children, some of whom weren’t even wearing clothes, dragged out of the building by ICE agents and then placed into U-Haul vans.

soldierant

(8,987 posts)

21. Well, there are witnesses.

Reply to orangecrush (Original post)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 07:19 PM

20 hrs ago

https://www.wonkette.com/p/illegal-chicago-raid-makes-ice-the

SunSeeker

(56,840 posts)

23. Why the fuck is Chicago PD doing nothing about the theft and destruction of US citizen's property?

Reply to soldierant (Reply #21)

Thu Oct 2, 2025, 07:40 PM

20 hrs ago

From your Wonkette link:

Jones said he entered his unit to find all of his electronics and furniture missing, and all of his clothes and shoes thrown on the floor. Jones said he had no idea who took his belongings and hadn’t received answers from Chicago police.

“I’m pissed off,” Jones said. “I feel defeated because the authorities aren’t doing anything.”

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