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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA simple request for lurking MAGAT fuckwits:
Do a little research, and compile a list of all of the heads of state who have ever called their generals together and demanded that they prepare to fight "the enemy within".
It won't take long.
Then come on back and we'll see if you can figure out what every name on that fucking list has in common.

Aviation Pro
(14,850 posts)But these fucking morons won't even look.
lostincalifornia
(4,617 posts)brainwashed until it is too late.
11 Bravo
(24,209 posts)So I did it.
Fuck 'em.
Gimpyknee
(765 posts)rubbersole
(10,646 posts)Your search should begin with "H". And end with "itler".
AZJonnie
(1,713 posts)Last edited Thu Oct 2, 2025, 09:37 PM - Edit history (1)
"Dear Leader is Owning the Libs" is literally all that matters to them. The only thing that could turn the cultists against their Dear Leader and his VERY OBVIOUSLY fascist dictatorship agenda is if started talking about taking their guns away. NOT "everyone else's guns", just THEIRS. They consistently show they aren't intelligent enough for complex thoughts like "if the government is doing bad XYZ to someone else, then maybe they will eventually also do it to ME".
And ALL that matters to the RWNJ's is "I, Me, Mine". Always. It's the very essence of their being.
Skittles
(167,806 posts)WTF
malaise
(289,668 posts)RFN!
dalton99a
(90,491 posts)oasis
(52,984 posts)the greater good.
So say his deplorablegang of morons.
MLWR
(579 posts)but I seriously doubt that MAGAts have the first clue as to how to do research or what the word "compile" means.
Paladin
(31,701 posts)So many of them are currently occupied with shitting their undies over the upcoming Super Bowl halftime show.
Skittles
(167,806 posts)Pacifist Patriot
(25,124 posts)to a MAGAt yesterday and got nowhere. I couldn't convince him with simple arithmetic that the GOP controlled Congress, the White House, and the Supreme Court so Democrats can't possibly be controlling his life circumstances. If second grade math can't break through the brainwashing, nothing can.
0rganism
(25,342 posts)Not that I'm a MAGAT lurker, I just wanted to see what it would say. Your questions in bold.
compile a list of all of the heads of state who have ever called their generals together and demanded that they prepare to fight "the enemy within".
ChatGPT said:
Short answer up front: I cant produce an exhaustive all heads of state who ever said that that would require searching global historical records and contemporary sources (and web browsing, which I cant run right now). Nor can I guarantee any leader actually used that exact wording. What I can do here is a best‑effort, sourced‑style list of notable historical heads of state who invoked the idea of an enemy within and mobilized their military or generals to suppress internal opponents with brief context and approximate dates from my existing knowledge (cutoff June 2024). If you want a full, definitive catalog I can assemble with citations, Ill need permission to run up‑to‑date searches (web browsing), which I cant do in this session.
Below are prominent examples (not exhaustive). Ive tried to pick cases where a head of state explicitly mobilized generals or the armed forces to fight internal enemies (rebels, political opponents, fifth column, communists, etc.):
Representative examples
Abraham Lincoln (United States, 18611865)
Context: When the Southern states seceded in 186061 Lincoln summoned and directed Union generals to suppress the Confederacy a domestic rebellion he treated as an enemy within the Union. (American Civil War, 186165.)
Maximilien Robespierre / Committee of Public Safety (French Revolutionary government, 17931794)
Context: Revolutionary leadership mobilized military and police to root out internal enemies (counter‑revolutionaries); military commanders and representatives on mission were instructed to suppress internal opposition during the Terror.
Napoleon Bonaparte (Consul/Emperor of France, 17991815)
Context: Napoleon used the military and secret police to neutralize royalist conspiracies and domestic insurgents; he repeatedly instructed commanders to guard against plots and internal enemies.
Francisco Franco (Spain, after civil war 1939 onward)
Context: Francos uprising against the Republican government (1936) was framed as eliminating internal subversion; after victory he used the military and security forces to hunt internal enemies (Republican supporters, leftists).
Benito Mussolini (Italy, 19221943)
Context: Mussolini and fascists used state security and paramilitary forces to crush leftist/internal opposition; Mussolini coordinated with military and police to suppress domestic enemies.
Adolf Hitler (Germany, 19331945)
Context: Hitler and Nazi leadership repeatedly ordered the arrest/elimination of political opponents and internal enemies (Communists, Social Democrats, other undesirables); the regime used SS, Gestapo, and military/police apparatus and purged potential rivals (e.g., Night of the Long Knives, 1934).
Joseph Stalin (USSR, 19241953)
Context: Stalin framed many threats as internal enemies (enemies of the people) and directed the NKVD and affected the Red Army command during the Great Purge (late 1930s), leading to arrests/executions of senior officers and political repression.
Mao Zedong (PRC, 19491976)
Context: Mao repeatedly called for struggle against internal class enemies (landlords, counter‑revolutionaries, then capitalist roaders during the Cultural Revolution). The PLA and militia were repeatedly mobilized or ordered to intervene against alleged internal enemies.
Chiang Kai‑shek (Republic of China on the mainland / Taiwan, 19281975)
Context: Chiang led military campaigns against the Chinese Communist Party (internal enemy) through the 1920s40s and later used military and security services to suppress internal opposition in Taiwan (White Terror).
Suharto (Indonesia, 19671998)
Context: After the 1965 coup attempt, Suharto and the army moved to eliminate the Indonesian Communist Party (PKI) and other internal enemies, calling on military and regional commanders to carry out purges and security operations.
Ferdinand Marcos (Philippines, 19721986)
Context: Upon declaring Martial Law (1972) Marcos explicitly invoked threats from communists/separatists and used the military and police to suppress internal dissent he directed the armed forces to round up opponents.
Francisco (or Rafael) Trujillo, Anastasio Somoza, other authoritarian Latin American leaders (mid‑20th century)
Context: Several Latin American strongmen repeatedly ordered their militaries and security forces to crush internal opposition and insurgencies (examples include Rafael Trujillo in the Dominican Republic, the Somoza family in Nicaragua).
Saddam Hussein (Iraq, 19792003)
Context: Saddam used security services and military operations to suppress internal uprisings and perceived internal enemies Kurds and Shia uprisings were violently repressed by state forces.
Various colonial governors and imperial rulers
Context: Colonial administrators and metropolitan heads of state repeatedly mobilized military forces to put down internal rebellions or insurgents within colonies (examples across Africa, Asia and the Americas during the 18th20th centuries).
Important caveats
I cannot guarantee any of those leaders used the exact phrase the enemy within but they used equivalent rhetoric (fifth column, internal enemies, counter‑revolutionaries) and mobilized armed forces or ordered generals to act.
Producing a complete list of all heads of state who ever did X is effectively impossible without exhaustive, source‑checked research across many languages and time periods. That requires systematic web and archival searching (which I can do if you want and browsing is available).
Some leaders were themselves military figures (so calling their generals together looks different when the leader is a general). I included both civilian heads who ordered military action and military rulers who used their officer corps to eliminate domestic threats.
How I can help next (pick one)
I can focus on a narrower scope (e.g., 20th‑century heads of state worldwide; Latin America; Europe; authoritarian regimes) and produce a more complete, referenced list from my internal knowledge.
If you want a definitive, source‑backed list, tell me you want me to research and Ill need to perform web searches / cite primary sources (note: I cant run web searches right now).
I can draft a timeline or short dossiers (dates, quotes, actions) for any of the names above.
Which would you like? If you want a narrower, immediate list Ill expand from the examples above into short dossiers (no browsing required).
what does every name on that list have in common?
ChatGPT said:
Every name on that list from Lincoln to Hitler to Mao shares a core characteristic:
They all wielded state power to define and suppress a group within their own population as a threat an enemy within and they mobilized military or coercive force to neutralize that threat.
But digging deeper, heres what they all have in common at multiple levels:
🔷 1. They centralized authority and exercised control over the military.
Whether elected (Lincoln), revolutionary (Robespierre), or authoritarian (Franco, Stalin), each one had command over the state apparatus, including the military or internal security forces. They either:
Commanded generals directly, or
Had the power to authorize military action against internal threats.
🔷 2. They used the concept of the internal enemy to justify extraordinary action.
Every leader on the list claimed that:
The danger is not only external it is among us. And we must act decisively.
This justified:
Suspension of norms (e.g. martial law, purges, emergency powers),
Crackdowns on political opposition,
Mass arrests, surveillance, and in many cases,
Violence or suppression against their own citizens.
🔷 3. They framed internal dissent as existential or ideological.
They often didnt just see internal opposition as political rivalry but as a deep threat to the nation, revolution, order, or ideology. For example:
Lincoln: secession was a betrayal of the Union.
Robespierre: counter-revolutionaries were enemies of liberty.
Hitler: Jews, Marxists, and others were subversives within the volk.
Stalin: internal sabotage and wreckers undermined socialism.
Mao: capitalist roaders endangered the revolution.
🔷 4. They treated the state as the ultimate guardian of order or ideology.
These leaders often positioned themselves as guardians of:
National unity (Lincoln, Franco),
Revolutionary purity (Robespierre, Mao),
Ethnic or ideological supremacy (Hitler, Stalin),
State survival (Saddam, Suharto).
In every case, the "enemy within" was portrayed as a corrupting force that had to be rooted out to preserve the larger vision.
🔷 5. They fused domestic security with national identity.
By labeling internal enemies, they drew a hard line between us and them even within their own nation. This often resulted in:
Civil war or internal purges,
Mass repression,
Long-term social or political trauma.
🔷 6. They saw military or coercive force as a legitimate tool of internal governance.
In democracies, militaries are usually for defense against external threats. But in all these cases, the military or coercive force was used against civilians (or segments of the population), under the justification of protecting the state.
🔷 7. Many created or relied on cults of personality or centralized ideology.
These were not neutral administrators. Many used propaganda, personality cults, or ideological dogma to justify repression and secure loyalty. This helped consolidate power and silence dissent.
Summary in one sentence:
Each of these leaders saw internal dissent not as part of a political process, but as a threat to be eliminated using the armed power of the state.
Would you like me to analyze differences between them next? Or compare how democracies vs authoritarian regimes framed enemies within?
JoseBalow
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