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applegrove

(128,520 posts)
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 07:47 PM 18 hrs ago

They're going to die.

I waited to post this until I had permission from the writer. This is real and it's frightening. The blood running through the veins/arteries of the monsters in the R' party/Project 2025/Russell Vought has been replaced with cruelty and evil. 😡🤬😭

Rebecca E ❌👑 (@spoutiblegirl.bsky.social) 2025-10-03T23:31:50.345Z
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They're going to die. (Original Post) applegrove 18 hrs ago OP
This news is coming at a bad time for the Klarkashton 18 hrs ago #1
But also not a bad time b/c it comes before Midterm Elections. no_hypocrisy 18 hrs ago #2
That's a forever time away these days. Klarkashton 17 hrs ago #15
I'm confused what plan she has Skittles 18 hrs ago #3
Don't know. I can't figure out the US's medical system. applegrove 18 hrs ago #4
well, believe me Skittles 18 hrs ago #5
It's a "Medicare advantage " plan. James48 17 hrs ago #12
actually you CAN go back to regular Medicare Skittles 17 hrs ago #13
You may have to do so during open enrollment soldierant 16 hrs ago #31
Medicare "Advantage" is a huge scam Skittles 14 hrs ago #36
Should be retitled "Medicare Disadvantage". BattleRow 3 hrs ago #42
Was just Rebl2 3 hrs ago #41
I had the same question TimeToGo 3 hrs ago #40
She could be a senior who is not yet MontanaMama 2 hrs ago #43
I HATE, ABSOLUTELY HATE THIS WHOLE GAWD DAMN ADMINISTRATION!!!!!!! a kennedy 18 hrs ago #6
I got a notice about two months ago dhol82 18 hrs ago #7
Sorry, that should be the medigap plan from United healthcare dhol82 18 hrs ago #8
On a Medigap plan, your copay should be fixed by the plan type when you bought it. n/t Ms. Toad 17 hrs ago #16
Sorry to hear this... Bread and Circuses 18 hrs ago #9
She implies she is on Medicare with an additional plan. applegrove 17 hrs ago #11
She says "her share" is going up $1,000 per month HuskiesHowls 16 hrs ago #28
Thanks! Bread and Circuses 16 hrs ago #29
Sorry for you but glad you have the means. applegrove 15 hrs ago #32
If I am understanding this correctly, mwmisses4289 17 hrs ago #10
Right. That is what I got out of her statement. applegrove 16 hrs ago #20
OK that makes sense to me Skittles 14 hrs ago #37
The blood running through the veins/arteries of the monsters in the R' party/Project 2025/Russell Vought was Jack Valentino 17 hrs ago #14
My plan D is set to increase $50 a month Auggie 17 hrs ago #17
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Nope. He was a gun humper. Encouraged to daydream about guns in his youth. applegrove 16 hrs ago #21
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Nobody is celebrating, especially in this thread, unless it is you. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz 16 hrs ago #24
Message auto-removed Name removed 16 hrs ago #25
Go worship your orange god, cult member. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz 16 hrs ago #27
Please do not post opaque links. Post the real link and provide a description so we know the source. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz 16 hrs ago #22
I'm not convinced that you will get a coherent response. SoFlaBro 16 hrs ago #26
Will try to do better. applegrove 15 hrs ago #33
It wasn't you, it was the maga troll. You're fine. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz 15 hrs ago #34
Okay. Thanks. applegrove 15 hrs ago #35
Wow. What a shock to receive. Joinfortmill 16 hrs ago #30
No, but I was on borrowed time already. OldBaldy1701E 5 hrs ago #38
So sorry. Not reported enough...especially the fact that many who are relatively healthy will wiggs 4 hrs ago #39
I used to think the R's just didn't care. I was wrong. They do care, they WANT people to die. Fil1957 2 hrs ago #44
You have every right to be pissed as hell. There is NOO excuse for this cruelty and the outrageous cost of "healthcare" Evolve Dammit 51 min ago #45

Klarkashton

(4,163 posts)
1. This news is coming at a bad time for the
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 07:54 PM
18 hrs ago

Republican bastards that won't budge on the healthcare budget.
This is absolutely tragic raising the fees in order to give tax breaks to billionaires and wasting money on ICE.

God help us.

Skittles

(167,834 posts)
3. I'm confused what plan she has
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:15 PM
18 hrs ago

is it a private plan in addition to Medicare? or a Medigap plan? what exactly is going up

James48

(4,969 posts)
12. It's a "Medicare advantage " plan.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:22 PM
17 hrs ago

Some people don’t have traditional Medicare, instead they have “Medicare advantage” plans, which are private plans they pay a fee for.

But once you are on an advantage care plan, you can’t yo back to regular Medicare.

Skittles

(167,834 posts)
13. actually you CAN go back to regular Medicare
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:26 PM
17 hrs ago

but if you want a Medigap plan it will cost you out the ass (not that they are cheap for anyone) and they CAN be denied

soldierant

(8,996 posts)
31. You may have to do so during open enrollment
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:28 PM
16 hrs ago

but I think that's coming right up. Regular Medicare is parts A and B. I would recommend getting part D if one has chronic conditions (here, Sheriff). I am fortunate in that the employer I retired from opted to go to an HRA program. Keeping an active Part D with a particular company is a condition of keeping it, but that works well for me - I just got the notice from them that next year's premium will go down a little If Part D is not an option, a DUer recently posted an article about a service that Mark Cuban is involved with,, so that may be an option.

Please don't tell them I said so, but in my opinion all Medicare Advantage plans are scams. The only one who gets an advantage with them is the insurer.

Skittles

(167,834 posts)
36. Medicare "Advantage" is a huge scam
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 12:20 AM
14 hrs ago

I don't blame people for using them - especially people of modest means, a lot of money is spent enticing them - but the entire goal of MA is to eventually get rid of Medicare and turn it all over to the insurance wolves. Only then will people see what those "freebies" really cost.

Rebl2

(17,050 posts)
41. Was just
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 10:56 AM
3 hrs ago

going to ask about that. Have always had regular Medicare and secondary plan from my husband’s former employer from which he retired from several years ago.

MontanaMama

(24,551 posts)
43. She could be a senior who is not yet
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 11:44 AM
2 hrs ago

eligible for Medicare and buys health insurance from the Marketplace. I’m 60, my husband is 64. I buy our health insurance through the Marketplace for us and our 20 year old son. Our policy is $2200 per month with an $8000 per person deductible. We received a letter stating our current plan will go up at least 75%. I don’t know how we will shoulder this.

a kennedy

(34,538 posts)
6. I HATE, ABSOLUTELY HATE THIS WHOLE GAWD DAMN ADMINISTRATION!!!!!!!
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:25 PM
18 hrs ago

I FAWKING HATE THEM ALL. and not sorry. I hope they do infiltrate this site. I hope they see what I’ve written and said. I FAWKING HATE, DESPISE, and DETEST THEM ALL. 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

dhol82

(9,618 posts)
7. I got a notice about two months ago
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:27 PM
18 hrs ago

My copay insurance is going to be raised 50%. It was high before but now will be ridiculous.

Ms. Toad

(37,775 posts)
16. On a Medigap plan, your copay should be fixed by the plan type when you bought it. n/t
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:33 PM
17 hrs ago

Bread and Circuses

(1,223 posts)
9. Sorry to hear this...
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:36 PM
18 hrs ago

But, I’m confused.
She states that she’s a senior and low-income and medicaid . Am I wrong to assume that she is receiving Medicaid?
I don’t know her situation , but something doesn’t add up for me , $1000/monthly Increase to her Medicaid plan.?
And why would she cancel her health insurance when she has many serious health issues?

I am not criticizing this woman, I’m sorry for the difficulties she faces. It must be stressful.

I hope that a relative can sort this out for her and explain that she is risking her life if she discontinues medical insurance and medical care.

If the facts are accurate , I wish we had more details.

Thanks for reading my post.

HuskiesHowls

(735 posts)
28. She says "her share" is going up $1,000 per month
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:01 PM
16 hrs ago

That is probably a combination of premiums, Part D deductibles and copays. If some of her meds changed tier, her cost could go from zero dollars to maybe 50% of the cost (which for specialty drugs could be thousands). Her deductibles could have gone up from possibly zero to some astronomical number. Its also possible that instead of having zero copay for doctor visits, that has gone up, as well as referrals to specialists.

My wife and I are both in our late 70's, and I have just gone through this. In my wife's very specific case, Part D deductible went from zero, to $615. That's along with the monthly premium going up $25 a month. She only has 4 prescriptions, and all of those are generics, so it will take us about 6 months to cover the deductible. Along with that, my wife's supplemental insurance rates went up $50 a month, and for the last 4 years, the only claims have been for quarterly doctor visits; no specialists, no hospitals, no expensive testing.

My wife and I are lucky, we're both pretty healthy, but we both feel the need to be insured because we don't know when one of us will need it. Most recently, we've spent more money on keeping our dogs healthy, than we have on ourselves.

Bread and Circuses

(1,223 posts)
29. Thanks!
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:15 PM
16 hrs ago

I found the post to be confusing. Yes, I can better understand if one factors in her deductible, copays, monthly premium and meds.

I don’t doubt that the costs are going up. But this is crazy.

I’m glad that both you and your wife are able to stay healthy! It’s important to take care of our little fur-babies, too!

Many thanks!

mwmisses4289

(2,344 posts)
10. If I am understanding this correctly,
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:17 PM
17 hrs ago

the lady is implying that her out of pocket expenses (a.k.a co-pay and/or deductible) is going to go up by over a $1000 more per month. In other words, if she only has to currently pay $400 a month for all her care, medications, etc., next year her payment is going to get jacked up to $1400 (or more) per month. If her income from ss and other sources is only $1500-2000 or so a month, a $1000 or more increase is going to be devastating.

Skittles

(167,834 posts)
37. OK that makes sense to me
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 12:23 AM
14 hrs ago

seeing as she is a person who most certainly routinely uses up deductibles, when they are raised that can be quite costly

what a fucking SCAM American health insurance is, it is just plain WRONG......not to mention how constant worry about medical bills affects someone's health and recovery

Jack Valentino

(3,454 posts)
14. The blood running through the veins/arteries of the monsters in the R' party/Project 2025/Russell Vought was
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:28 PM
17 hrs ago

ALWAYS 'cruelty and evil", so I am confused..... there has BEEN no great change here

Response to applegrove (Original post)

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Bernardo de La Paz

(59,262 posts)
22. Please do not post opaque links. Post the real link and provide a description so we know the source. . . nt
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:43 PM
16 hrs ago

OldBaldy1701E

(9,207 posts)
38. No, but I was on borrowed time already.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 09:15 AM
5 hrs ago

I cannot afford it now, so any increase means I will have to just suffer in the streets and die in the gutter.

However, I will promise you this. If I end up in this position with no way out of it (which is the path I am on at the moment, despite any attempts to change this), I will spare no expense or effort to get to D.C. so I can die on the steps of the White House. If they are causing it, they should have to experience it. Over and over and over. Remember, that orange gibbon won't even come out of the doorway unless they clear Pennsylvania Ave. None of them will leave without massive protection. They don't like having their 'fee-fees' hurt.

Maybe if enough people do this, it will wake up the rest of us. I doubt it, but at this point, I might as well do something.

wiggs

(8,470 posts)
39. So sorry. Not reported enough...especially the fact that many who are relatively healthy will
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 10:32 AM
4 hrs ago

leave the market rather than pay more, which leaves the overall population on insurance programs unbalanced. Resulting in even higher costs and premiums.

They are crashing the systems...both public and private.

Fil1957

(243 posts)
44. I used to think the R's just didn't care. I was wrong. They do care, they WANT people to die.
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 11:51 AM
2 hrs ago

Evolve Dammit

(21,259 posts)
45. You have every right to be pissed as hell. There is NOO excuse for this cruelty and the outrageous cost of "healthcare"
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 01:46 PM
51 min ago
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