However, "Good Christians like you" seems to be a rather stark contradiction in terms.

It's either one, the other, or none of the above. I stopped believing in the tooth fairly long ago.

When they married, he hadn’t yet fallen down the rightwing extremist hole. Being Peter Thiel’s puppet didnt require overt religiosity - he just needed that raw depraved desire for money.

Indians/Hindus have many many centuries of their own proud culture and religion, and consider their world far superior to anything the US can offer. Usha and her family are extremely high caste and could have plausibly expected JD to adopt into their world.

They obviously didn't push it on him. Because that’s shitty.

Yet here he is bringing the not-so-subtle pressure.

Now he has presidential aspirations and she’s embarrassing as both brown and a “heathen” (in rightwing circles. I’m atheist and don’t give a shit). Guessing she either converts or gets pushed out. She’s as craven as he is imo. I have zero sympathy for her. She knew what she married.

Faith should be a private matter. His mixed faith marriage is not something for public discussion since it represents a conflict in their relationship. His comments and hopes for his marriage should be kept private.

But Vance is an opportunistic pig. It’s unfathomable to me how Usha has any respect for him… or herself.

She’s as hardcore rightwing as he is. I have zero sympathy for her.

It will just be karma coming back to bite her if JD throws her over for a “Christian” (*grifter*) influencer like Erika Kirk.

But yes, to your point, it’s just another data point reflecting JD’s character that he’s willing to air this conflict in public

of her political future in a monopoly game sort of way

Like trading Baltimore for park place

posts seem to indicate?

He was asked about her religion and his reply was something like the OP

I think it was a set up, Fuentes used to plant dissenters at Kirk’s events to ask questions

And he recently said he will have 10,000 Groypers at every JD event if JD crosses a “red line” for them.

Where he and Erika Kirk shared a very close and intimate hug onstage

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/01/jd-vance-usha-christianity

each other.

"For us, it works out now most Sundays, Usha will come with me to church, as I've told her, and I've said publicly, and I'll say now in front of 10,000 of my closest friends, do I hope eventually that she is somehow moved by the same thing that I was moved in by church. Yeah, I honestly, I do wish that, because I believe in the Christian Gospel, and I hope eventually my wife comes to see it the same way. But if she doesn't, then God says everybody has free will, and so that doesn't cause a problem for me.”

He followed it up with a subsequent statement: "My Christian faith tells me the Gospel is true and is good for human beings. My wife -- as I said at the TPUSA -- is the most amazing blessing I have in my life. She herself encouraged me to reengage with my faith many years ago. She is not a Christian and has no plans to convert, but like many people in an interfaith marriage -- or any interfaith relationship -- I hope she may one day see things as I do. Regardless, I'll continue to love and support her and talk to her about faith and life and everything else, because she's my wife."

Because he's turned into a right monster since then.

Whoa, 10K & closest is weird at best. I'd be suprised if he had more than ten friends at all He likely has a large circle of grifter acquaintances at best. Dude couldn't even order donuts to share making it obvious he had only ever bought gifts with an agenda. This is a proverbial Devil vs the Deep Blue Sea or a Frying Pan, Fire situation with him next in line for the Presidency.

Actually savvy. But yeah, it is a rhetorical trick, or alternatively, a lie.

Calling them his "10,000" "close" "friends" reminds me of Marc Antony at Caesar's funeral.

He is maintaining a slow burn in the incel youth male demographic. It cultivates pathos which will make his inevitable grievance worship so much more powerful later. I suspect he and Rubio are being played against each other and Vance's naked ambition is going to win out over Rubio's cowed (cucked) technocratic cowardice.

They’ve been reportedly on the rocks for a while. This will justify the divorce in the eyes of the base. It would not surprise me if the Erika Kirk thing is his end goal either.

“She was a ‘heathen,’ he had no choice.”

I sincerely do not think he would make that directed of a call, invoking her name specifically, without a much deeper motive and hopeful positive outcome for himself - and “Christianity” is not it - imo.

Doubt they would bat an eye.

Even they can't stand each other

Baptized in 2019 at St. Gertrude Priory in Ohio. According to AI, his kids go to Catholic school.

Interesting- lots of Republicans becoming Catholic lately. Even Charlie Kirk reportedly had a Catholic burial.

My parents told me about it but I witnessed that kind of behavior when we visited my cousins in Calabria back in 2007. One cousin, a devout atheist, was on the Town Council. when the local church had a procession, she was out there leading the way. Whether it was just politics on her part or "just in case", I don't know because she couldn't speak English and we didn't speak Italian so I couldn't ask her a personal question like that without an interpreter.

Belief is in following the precepts of the claimed religion, not making the religion bend to your opinion. Moreover, moving from one religion to another to find one who's distorted view matches yours, is not religion either. If one claims to be Christian but doesn't like the "wokeness" of Christ, one is not a Christian. One can stay or leave a a particular Christian faith based on its rituals but to deny the basic tenets of that religion, means, IMHO, you are not a believer. Religion in that case is just a crutch or, worse, an excuse for your bad behavior.

. . . shows that divorce is no longer a bar to being elected. I am not old enough to remember Adlai Stevenson, but from what I understand, his status as a divorced man caused many people to doubt that he could "run a country" since he couldn't even hold his marriage together.

Vance takes food stamps away.

So, let's cut off Vance's paycheck and his healthcare.

About being a Christian: "I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians." Sums up how I feel totally, except for a few that really do embrace Christ's teachings.

Using Christianity as a means to gain political power. It is the ultimate sacrilege, but a lot of people are fooled. Shame on them!

... he strained his little brain for a few seconds and come up with: "Well, I think many. I mean, you know, when we get into the Bible, I think many. So many. And some people—look, an eye for an eye, you can almost say that. That’s not a particularly nice thing. But you know, if you look at what’s happening to our country, I mean, when you see what’s going on with our country, how people are taking advantage of us, and how they scoff at us and laugh at us."

Presumably, he was talking about Old Testament verses, apparently unaware of what Christ actually said about that: instead of taking an eye for an eye, turn the other cheek. He called that and other teachings that contradicted the Old Testament a "new covenant." For some pathological reason, people who reject all of it still call themselves Christian.

I gave up religion when I was a teenager, but Christ's teachings about morality have never left me.

But I believe steadfastly that the two teachings of Christ, that the holy spirit is the spirit of truth, and to do unto others as you would have them do to you, are the embodiment of being a Christian. Simple, but profound. Basically all I need.

... to just not be shitty to other people. But they live in a culture that believes that all hell will break lose without fear of authoritarian 'father figures.' Problem is, they have chosen 'daddies' who don't seem to know much about Jesus but give the kids permission to call themselves Christian, anyway.

It is that compulsion to convert people that is especially repulsive. They wear their 'converts' like scalps on their belt. I see the 'glory to god' type of exclamations about some kid of theirs accepting Jesus after they scared the shit out of them with heaven and hell stories.

Showed up and bam, next day, conclave.

Pope Francis was likely bored to death.

Might learn something from the Sermon on the Mount.

Instant base? For all I know Vance is a Thiel puppet because Thiel has compromising info on Vance being "bisexual". Thiel orchestrated the whole change of Vance's earlier positions to gain a base for Vance that would allow his agenda.

maga is so ignorant of reality.

Hillbilly Vance can hook up with hot Nashville country singer Alexis Wilkins, and Patel can take Usha and the kids off Vance's hands. MAGA christian nationalists prefer candidates who stick with their own kind.

Is that what she worships? I say, if you study her background and beliefs then the answer is yes.

to see how enthusiastic hard core Maga voters will be when Ramaswamy is on the ballot for OH governor. Supposedly he has already been endorsed by the Ohio GOP.

What state is he pretending to be from now?

There’s an opening for a white Christian nationalist candidate in the primary that would likely win the nomination.

I know what I think.

Connection to Jesus? That just blows me away!! Most unholy of unholy, that's exactly who they are!!

Of course, I’m an atheist.

I hope she dumps Vance’s doughy ass yesterday.

Hindu god of destruction

JD - do you want her to be a good Christian or do you want her to be like you. I recall something about you deliberately spreading lies about your Haitian constituents not that long ago