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vanessa_ca

(607 posts)
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 12:27 AM Nov 5

Mamdani's win is bigger than New York. Now Democrats have a clear path forward.

Opinion by Sara Pequeño, USA TODAY

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With his win, it’s clear we aren’t just watching a rising political star – we’re watching the party shift in real time.

Mamdani’s win signals to the most powerful people in the Democratic Party that they can, in fact, win elections by focusing on working-class issues. They can run bold, radical campaigns and even run the risk of being labeled “communists,” so long as they have a clear vision for what the future can look like for everyday people.

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What is remarkable is that Mamdani was able to keep this lead in spite of limited backing from the Democratic Party and huge amounts of spending against him by billionaires. Even though he has had the public’s support, the systems that normally support Democratic candidates were not on his side.

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Democrats would be wise to take this win seriously, instead of chalking it up to New York City’s liberal bias. This is a sign that the party can win, so long as its candidates appeal to the base’s most enthusiastic voters and focus on issues affecting the working class, like affordability and housing. These are issues that resonate beyond the five boroughs, and Democrats must recognize that instead of using the same playbook they’ve worked from for the past few election cycles.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/mamdani-s-win-is-bigger-than-new-york-now-democrats-have-a-clear-path-forward-opinion/ar-AA1POU3m

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Mamdani's win is bigger than New York. Now Democrats have a clear path forward. (Original Post) vanessa_ca Nov 5 OP
I wonder who Schumer voted for. David__77 Nov 5 #1
He won't tell us. I expected more. vanessa_ca Nov 5 #2
I think he triangulated that there was no "right answer" for him in this situation AZJonnie Nov 5 #6
I really hope not. That would be terrible. vanessa_ca Nov 5 #8
I feel like if I looked up "triangulation" in the dictionary, there'd be a picture of Chuck Schumer lol AZJonnie Nov 5 #10
Mamdani is a death knell for Schumer's career mr715 Nov 5 #31
Yup, that is all in line with my thoughts on the subject :) AZJonnie Nov 5 #34
AOC is the fighter we need. I am so over Schumer. pinkstarburst Nov 5 #36
Schumer doesn't see that the party wants politicians Emile Nov 5 #38
How so? lapucelle Nov 5 #42
No, for him and Centrist Dems in NY area, there was no right answer. haele Nov 5 #23
Yes, I didn't really mean triangulation is inherently bad AZJonnie Nov 5 #26
That's so sad! Emile Nov 5 #19
I expected more as well. lapucelle Nov 5 #41
Wow... Kamala, Hakeem, Schumer, Sherrill, Cha Nov 5 #43
Interesting. One expected a much bigger margin mcar Thursday #44
I don't BeyondGeography Nov 5 #9
I believe I saw someone call them "factional grifters" in another thread. W_HAMILTON Nov 5 #3
yes, Govs Elect Mikie Sherrill & Abagail Spanberger... Cha Nov 5 #14
Greg Sargent called out the "factional grifters" on twitter. lapucelle Nov 5 #27
Mahalo for Greg Sargent.. Yes "Dems are Alive & Cha Nov 5 #37
Thank you, so sick of it. betsuni Nov 5 #15
I'm excited. Mamdani wouldn't stand a chance in my area, at least yesterday. Who knows now. We did elect a moderate Silent Type Nov 5 #4
I think a lot of it was him Tree Lady Nov 5 #5
Unfortunately I dont think the old guard will see it that way Slider19 Nov 5 #7
They won't, but I think we could do it in 10 -eom vanessa_ca Nov 5 #11
So glad people didn't fall for the manufactured outrage hurled against him by the most obnoxious & self righteous people SunImp Nov 5 #12
I'm Glad He Won DET Nov 5 #13
Who do these people think are the Democrats who ignore the working class? It's not real. betsuni Nov 5 #16
It's Ridiculous.. TY. The Dems who Won All Across Cha Nov 5 #17
It's the same shit over and over JI7 Nov 5 #20
Well MAGA's think Democrats ignore the working class. That's why they put Trump in office. emulatorloo Nov 5 #22
Biden/Harris did more to help the working class mcar Thursday #45
Progressive ideas get people off their ass and go vote. Emile Nov 5 #18
Yes, it's not a political loser like some here like to constantly wine about SunImp Nov 5 #39
49.4% of the voters who got off their asses to vote lapucelle Friday #47
I'm very glad he won. But it is an overstatement to generalize a NYC mayoral race as a national bellwether. emulatorloo Nov 5 #21
Mamdami is also going to be under the microscope Amishman Nov 5 #24
I think Spanberger and Sherrill Boo1 Nov 5 #25
They both campaigned pretty left leftstreet Nov 5 #29
I agree. Tip O'Neill had it pegged all those decades ago. DFW Nov 5 #30
Agree, old Democratic guard think about it. republianmushroom Nov 5 #28
LOL, last night victories showed us multiple paths rogue emissary Nov 5 #32
I would like to think so! CTyankee Nov 5 #33
I think all states could relate to a focus on making their cities/states more affordable, fighting for universal child Nanjeanne Nov 5 #35
Well said! Emile Nov 5 #40
It is possible to recognize that it is NYC, but also that's he a sharp, talented person and that aspects can be themaguffin Thursday #46

vanessa_ca

(607 posts)
2. He won't tell us. I expected more.
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 12:45 AM
Nov 5

Schumer won't say whether he voted for Mamdani in NYC election

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, the senior senator from New York, on Nov. 4 declined to say who he voted for in the closely watched New York City mayoral race.

When asked at a press conference at the U.S. Capitol whether he voted for Democratic nominee Zohran Mamdani or Andrew Cuomo − the former Democratic governor running as an independent − Schumer simply said he voted.

"Look, I voted and I look forward to working with the next mayor to help New York City,”

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/schumer-wont-whether-voted-mamdani-221642726.html

AZJonnie

(2,250 posts)
6. I think he triangulated that there was no "right answer" for him in this situation
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 01:18 AM
Nov 5

Which I suppose I can understand in his position, esp. earlier in the day, before it was decided.

My guess would be Cuomo, though.

vanessa_ca

(607 posts)
8. I really hope not. That would be terrible.
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 01:29 AM
Nov 5

I suspect you're right about him triangulating, but imo, there was only one right answer.

AZJonnie

(2,250 posts)
10. I feel like if I looked up "triangulation" in the dictionary, there'd be a picture of Chuck Schumer lol
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 01:36 AM
Nov 5

Declining to answer is exactly what I would've expected him to do. Very on brand for him in a situation like that.

Plus, the new Mayor's whole vibe is kinda "out with the old guard", and, welp ... you know

mr715

(2,267 posts)
31. Mamdani is a death knell for Schumer's career
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 12:36 PM
Nov 5

I think it is very clear now that Rep. Ocasio-Cortez has a strong position to run for the Senate, and Schumer has neither the vision, nor the energy, nor the capacity to campaign against her. She can raise money against him dollar for dollar, and she is let us diplomatically say a more dexterous political acrobat.

Schumer almost certainly voted for Cuomo, because if Cuomo won Schumer's brand could survive another cycle. Moving forward, it'll be AOC's turn.



lapucelle

(20,864 posts)
42. How so?
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 08:50 PM
Nov 5

In 2022 Schumer got 750,000+ more votes in New York City than Mamdani got last night. Schumer won NYC with 75.1% of the vote to Mamdani's 50.4%.

Winning a blue district congressional election or a Democratic city's mayoral race is one thing. Winning statewide is another matter altogether.

https://elections.ny.gov/2022-general-election-us-senate-results

haele

(14,845 posts)
23. No, for him and Centrist Dems in NY area, there was no right answer.
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 10:11 AM
Nov 5

Other than, "I'll work with whomever the People elect".
I don't expect anyone in Schumer's position as a "business friendly" Democrat (or as my Dad used to call them - Pragmacrats) to say they would vote for a New Deal or Social Democrat.
I do expect them to agree to work with them, though. Money from donors does not guarantee a turnout of voters, and the turnout is what keeps you in office...

AZJonnie

(2,250 posts)
26. Yes, I didn't really mean triangulation is inherently bad
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 12:06 PM
Nov 5

Put it this way, when I saw the clip of Schumer being asked, before the question was even out of the reporters mouth all the way, I went "Oh, he is not going to answer that!" for the reasons you said. There wasn't a good answer for him, and he was not obliged to answer, so he won't, I thought. He did the pragmatic thing, and I thought that was fine, and very on brand for Chuck.

lapucelle

(20,864 posts)
41. I expected more as well.
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 08:26 PM
Nov 5

Our Democratic candidate won the mayoralty, and he did win by a majority, but he under performed Harris, Schumer, Jeffries, Spanberger, and Sherrill.

Kamala Harris (2024) 1,748,140 (vote total in NYC) 69% of the NYC vote

Chuck Schumer (2022) 1,788,282 (vote total in NYC) 75.1% of the NYC vote

Hakeem Jeffries (2024) won his congressional district in Brooklyn with 71.6% of the vote

Abigail Spanberger (2025) won the VA statehouse with 57.4% of the vote

Mikie Sherrill (2025) won the NJ statehouse with 56.3% of the vote

Zohran Mamdani (2025) 1,036,051 (vote total in NYC) 50.4% of the NYC vote

Cha

(315,774 posts)
43. Wow... Kamala, Hakeem, Schumer, Sherrill,
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 10:26 PM
Nov 5

& Spamberger Preformed Outstanding in their Races.

Good to know our Dems Did So Well! .. Mahalo, laucelle.

mcar

(45,473 posts)
44. Interesting. One expected a much bigger margin
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 01:36 PM
Thursday

since he is now, according to some, THE Democratic Party.

W_HAMILTON

(9,863 posts)
3. I believe I saw someone call them "factional grifters" in another thread.
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 12:50 AM
Nov 5

Every Democrat that won today focused on working-class issues, as did the vast majority of Democrats that lost in last year's elections.

These "factional grifters" need to stop trying to constantly divide the Democratic coalition, the vast majority of which agrees on the vast majority of issues and only differs on the best way to go about addressing those issues.

Cha

(315,774 posts)
14. yes, Govs Elect Mikie Sherrill & Abagail Spanberger...
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 03:21 AM
Nov 5

two Brilliant Women got Elected and the Party will be taking Note of them, too.

I can't stand the divisiveness of some.. it's sickening. .. who gives a crap who Sen Schumer voted for.

Thank You, W HAMILTON

lapucelle

(20,864 posts)
27. Greg Sargent called out the "factional grifters" on twitter.
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 12:08 PM
Nov 5

Last night proved that we are a big tent party.



Cha

(315,774 posts)
37. Mahalo for Greg Sargent.. Yes "Dems are Alive &
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 03:22 PM
Nov 5

Well".. All Across the Country.,. Including PA.

Pretty Cool.. That's kind of what I was thinking.. None of this Divisive Stuff.

Hope Fetterman is Taking Note.



Silent Type

(11,959 posts)
4. I'm excited. Mamdani wouldn't stand a chance in my area, at least yesterday. Who knows now. We did elect a moderate
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 12:53 AM
Nov 5

in Virginia, so something for every Dem.

Tree Lady

(12,899 posts)
5. I think a lot of it was him
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 01:11 AM
Nov 5

His personality. He has the Obama charm and enthusiasm that was authentic.

Slider19

(10 posts)
7. Unfortunately I dont think the old guard will see it that way
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 01:26 AM
Nov 5

We need another 20 years to get the boomer generation out of power before we can run someone like this for president

SunImp

(2,583 posts)
12. So glad people didn't fall for the manufactured outrage hurled against him by the most obnoxious & self righteous people
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 01:53 AM
Nov 5

DET

(2,310 posts)
13. I'm Glad He Won
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 02:18 AM
Nov 5

But now he has to perform. Mamdani ran on an extremely ambitious economic agenda that is going to generate all kinds of pushback from the rich and powerful. I wish him well, but his idealism and inexperience could be problematic.

betsuni

(28,545 posts)
16. Who do these people think are the Democrats who ignore the working class? It's not real.
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 03:35 AM
Nov 5

As always repeat it over and over and over and over and over and the gullible (evidently almost everyone) believes it.

Cha

(315,774 posts)
17. It's Ridiculous.. TY. The Dems who Won All Across
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 04:00 AM
Nov 5

Last edited Wed Nov 5, 2025, 04:41 AM - Edit history (1)

the Country tonight have a Mandate.. to work for their Constituents.

They're Leaders.. not followers of anyone else.

And the PA Dem Judges were Reelected in the ol Swing State. And, two Dems Ousted all RW from PA Buck's County School Board.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220774789

Dems Won Tonight.

emulatorloo

(46,135 posts)
22. Well MAGA's think Democrats ignore the working class. That's why they put Trump in office.
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 10:02 AM
Nov 5

Dems are ‘elites’ don’t you know. While Trump’s mega rich friends really ‘care about you.’

Unfortunately we see echoes of this falsehood that ‘Dems are elites!’ in some leftist ‘influencer’ rhetoric.

mcar

(45,473 posts)
45. Biden/Harris did more to help the working class
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 01:39 PM
Thursday

than any other administration in decades, at least.

This media- and "progressive"-generated myth that Democrats don't stand for the working class needs to die.

emulatorloo

(46,135 posts)
21. I'm very glad he won. But it is an overstatement to generalize a NYC mayoral race as a national bellwether.
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 09:52 AM
Nov 5

NYC is a unique place. Unique politics, unique history.

We should celebrate his win. And we do!

Amishman

(5,910 posts)
24. Mamdami is also going to be under the microscope
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 10:19 AM
Nov 5

Lots of eyes on how this will play out.

I have RW relatives who were hoping he'd get elected because they expect to be handed a case study on how progressive ideas can't work in the real world.

The rest of NY (city and state) need to be onboard, because if Mamdami fails the Right will never shut up about it and we will all feel the sting.

And this could go badly even if everyone plays ball. Many of his proposals are going to be very tricky to balance implementation in terms of cost, impact, and disruption

Boo1

(34 posts)
25. I think Spanberger and Sherrill
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 11:11 AM
Nov 5

Are much better examples of how Democrats see their path forward.

In VA, Spanberger shifted every county bluer and carried Jones and his texts to a win over an incumbent, along with securing a near supermajority in the house.


Mamdani turned out a lot of voters, but also drove high turnout against him as well, and ended up with ~50% of the vote when Democrats in recent elections have been at 66%.

I don't see how that's a recipe for success outside of very blue areas.

leftstreet

(38,208 posts)
29. They both campaigned pretty left
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 12:11 PM
Nov 5

I think that may be more of the point

Mikie Sherrill: "I am fighting for you. I'm fighting to get your costs down. I'm not doing a 10 year study. I'm not writing a strongly worded letter. I'm declaring a state of emergency to drive your costs down. I'm increasing that first time home buyers program so you can get your foot in the door. I'm taking on those landlords who are colluding to drive up your rental prices. Will my opponent do that? No."

Spanberger: "We’re going produce more energy and we’re going to lower energy costs. We are going to produce more energy here in Virginia and make sure that data centers pay their fair share." She also campaigned on lowering the cost of homes, cracking down on pharmaceutical prices and making data centers pay their fair share.

DFW

(59,342 posts)
30. I agree. Tip O'Neill had it pegged all those decades ago.
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 12:25 PM
Nov 5

"All politics is local."

True then, true now. Mamdani had his pulse on the beat of NYC, and played it perfectly. It would not have played in Poughkipsie.

May the Great Spirit spare us from fifteen years of posts starting with "Zohran says....."

rogue emissary

(3,334 posts)
32. LOL, last night victories showed us multiple paths
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 12:37 PM
Nov 5

Clicked the link but the full article wasn't available.

Seriously doubt this person looked at the demographics of all the races and compared them to NY results.

CTyankee

(67,537 posts)
33. I would like to think so!
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 12:40 PM
Nov 5

But a win in NYC is different than what is going on in red states and red cities. Sadly. I wish it were so, but it just isn't...

Nanjeanne

(6,480 posts)
35. I think all states could relate to a focus on making their cities/states more affordable, fighting for universal child
Wed Nov 5, 2025, 01:30 PM
Nov 5

care, making public transportation faster and on some lines free, etc. It's not unusual at all since as of 2023 these cities managed to do it: Akron, Ohio
Alexandria, Virginia
Avon, Colorado
Baltimore City, Maryland
Boston, Massachusetts
Breckenridge, Colorado
Cache Valley, Utah
Chapel Hill, North Carolina
Clemson, South Carolina
Commerce, California
Corvallis, Oregon
Emeryville, California
Hoboken, New Jersey
Island County, Washington
Missoula, Montana
North Central New Mexico, New Mexico
Olympia, Washington
Park City, Utah
Raleigh, North Carolina
Richmond, Virginia
Savannah, Georgia
Summit County, Colorado
Tucson, Arizona
Vail, Colorado

I think all states/cities can relate to increasing taxes on the wealthy.

I think all states/cities could relate to a positive, hopeful message that stands up for what it believes in and doesn't shy away from that (works for Tim Walz and others). I think the cities/states that can't are simply getting too much right wing talking points about communism, socialism, hating the rich, oh no - THE IMMIGRANTS are eating your pets, etc.

I think ultimately people respond to candidates that are real, not condescending, who speak their minds and who present a hopeful vision for a future. I think the winners in NJ and VA did that - as did NY. There's too much labeling of people and not enough talking about bold vision. I wish we'd not talk about oh no, a progressive can't win in NJ, oh no, a democratic socialist can only win in NY blah blah blah. I'd hope the party stops labeling their own candidates and starts supporting the ideas that people support across the board.

themaguffin

(4,849 posts)
46. It is possible to recognize that it is NYC, but also that's he a sharp, talented person and that aspects can be
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 02:04 PM
Thursday

replicated and embraced without saying this event in whole, can be replicated.

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