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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(12,106 posts)
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 08:31 AM Thursday

GOP members say Epstein files are bad for Trump

David Shuster on X: "A few GOP house members say they’ve heard from FBI/DOJ contacts that the Epstein files (with copies in different agencies) are worse than Michael Wolff’s description of Epstein photos showingTrump with half naked teenage girls. Speculation/rumors sweeping through GOP caucus. 1/" / X


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GOP members say Epstein files are bad for Trump (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Thursday OP
Keep the drumbeats going! Easterncedar Thursday #1
Evading Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #58
No sh!t. C_U_L8R Thursday #2
You would think that a man PatSeg Thursday #20
He was existentially motivated to seize the Presidency. C_U_L8R Thursday #27
Yes, that is true PatSeg Thursday #30
pedophiles are not treated nicely in prison RainCaster Thursday #31
Apparently a lot of criminals PatSeg Thursday #32
Well, he pretty much have gotten away with zorbasd Thursday #35
I know and that still blows my mind PatSeg Thursday #38
Think about this misanthrope Thursday #78
Has it ever mattered? SergeStorms Thursday #50
they will happily offer their daughters for his use. rampartd Thursday #59
Probably PatSeg Thursday #62
Sadly, that is true PatSeg Thursday #61
Diaper 3auld6phart Thursday #77
I am sure the Epstein Pals PatSeg Friday #86
Release the goddamned files. Preferably today. (nt) Paladin Thursday #3
also, the nmot swearing in of a new congress critter who said they wou d vote for a file release. AllaN01Bear Thursday #12
Gee. That would explain the shutdown. Kid Berwyn Thursday #4
That "doodle" UpInArms Thursday #5
You mean that doodle that was "planted into" Epstein's birthday book that was put together by Maxwell Botany Thursday #13
Deep state playing the long game IronLionZion Thursday #29
We dare not tell "them" we have the power of time travel. Botany Thursday #40
SHhhhhhhhhh!!! electric_blue68 Thursday #67
+1 dalton99a Thursday #9
Its really going to hurt his legacey when the Epstein Ballroom is finished Historic NY Thursday #6
Kick dalton99a Thursday #7
Duh.......... Lovie777 Thursday #8
No lie irisblue Thursday #10
Will Johnson convene the House after Sherrill leaves? Raven123 Thursday #11
There's also a TN seat in December leftstreet Thursday #43
Hmmm. Of course. yellow dahlia Thursday #73
They know it and we know it FakeNoose Thursday #14
The Epstein Files will be the blue semen-stained GAP dress. sop Thursday #26
I am certain that good ol jeffrey was blackmailing millionaires and billionaires lapfog_1 Friday #80
They Had Better Be A Helluva Lot Worse ColoringFool Friday #81
The amount of damage by NOT releasing them is huge. mn9driver Thursday #15
And a lot of orher people. nt Hotler Thursday #16
Damning info on others in the file is one way Trump controls so many others Attilatheblond Thursday #24
Bingo! purr-rat beauty Thursday #47
Mike Johnson protector of pedophiles. Emile Thursday #17
Dumpy's addiction to secrets is a high that supersedes all his other addictions Clouds Passing Thursday #18
They'll release the files only when... WestMichRad Thursday #19
If there were ONE Democrat in those secret files, it would have been released already FakeNoose Thursday #66
I would imagine a Dem or three might be involved. babylonsister Thursday #72
I'll take "the rapist" for $200 Alex. twodogsbarking Thursday #21
Wow! I had no idea! Fil1957 Thursday #22
Then why aren't they turning on him and releasing everything they know? Not just Epstein but everything. ChicagoTeamster Thursday #23
I wouldn't be too sure about tRump not having any blackmail on them. YodaMom2 Thursday #42
I was being sarcastic. I tried to put a sarcasm tag in angle brackets but it didn't show. New to posting. ChicagoTeamster Thursday #49
TRUMP'S "major source of money....mob" is equally true. ColoringFool Friday #82
Of all things, it could be the Epstein scandal that breaks Trump's back. Martin68 Thursday #25
I hope you're right. sop Thursday #28
Seems like reason for impeachment once we take the House. CaptainTruth Thursday #33
I still expect that ... Kablooie Thursday #34
It's in the Bible somewhere.... N/T Ol Janx Spirit Thursday #46
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Thursday #36
Don't hold your breath. The files will probably never be released, if they still exist. If they are released, Trump Doodley Thursday #37
At thiss point I no longer really care about the Trumpstein files... Moostache Thursday #39
I will never understand why the Biden/Harris administration didn't release them MichMan Thursday #41
I Can Think Of Some Reasons ColoringFool Friday #83
How did that work out? MichMan Friday #85
And if they're *never* released (which is what I suspect will happen)? Buns_of_Fire Thursday #44
Even if there are no sex crimes described (and no doubt, they are. The guy has no discretion) then his empire is gone. usonian Thursday #45
Do we ForgedCrank Thursday #48
Interesting that it's GOP House members who are leaking this... tinrobot Thursday #51
I think a lot of them are disgusted by Chump FakeNoose Thursday #70
If the Epstein files exonerated Trump, they would have already been released surfered Thursday #52
Kash Patel refused to answer Swallwell about whether he told Bondi Trump was in the files. viva la Thursday #53
They say that... AND THEY ARE ACTIVELY COVERING IT UP. RockRaven Thursday #54
"...worse than Trump with half naked teenage girls." OF COURSE IT'S WORSE! Grins Thursday #55
How about completely naked teenage girls? Ocelot II Thursday #60
Children are children. Iggo Thursday #75
Yes, they are. Ocelot II Thursday #76
How young Putin ? republianmushroom Thursday #56
Even though some GOP House members know this truth about Trump democrank Thursday #57
This message was self-deleted by its author ificandream Thursday #63
The difference between Clinton's Lewinsky scandal and tRump's Epstein scandal Blue Owl Thursday #64
Well in that case: EPSTEIN! MAXWELL! TRUMP! Hekate Thursday #65
Maga Mike is the Gym Jordan of House Speakers Hassler Thursday #68
Well it appears to me that trump is bad for the gop. C Moon Thursday #69
Of course they are, that's why he's done everything possible to distract. spanone Thursday #71
Not sure how reliable Shuster is SamuelTheThird Thursday #74
The Epstein Card Coldwater Thursday #79
I am bagimin Friday #84
They're not as worried about Trump as they are about their own asses when he crumbles. Ping Tung Saturday #87
Bad for Trump. Not that Trump is bad lame54 Saturday #88

C_U_L8R

(48,523 posts)
2. No sh!t.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 08:39 AM
Thursday

Trump knows that if he could hide his taxes for this long, he can surely keep his Epstein child sex crime evidence buried.

PatSeg

(51,448 posts)
20. You would think that a man
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:10 AM
Thursday

who has SO MANY awful secrets would keep more of a low profile. If a person is trying to hide something(s), politics is probably the worst career choice he/she could make. By running for national office, Trump was just asking to be exposed, though I am surprised he ever got as far as he did.

Of course, Trump is both arrogant and naive enough to think he can get away with such crap.

PatSeg

(51,448 posts)
30. Yes, that is true
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:55 AM
Thursday

He was really scared of prison, though clearly he loves having so much power as well.

RainCaster

(13,315 posts)
31. pedophiles are not treated nicely in prison
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:01 AM
Thursday

Even criminals have a sense of honor when it comes to children.

PatSeg

(51,448 posts)
32. Apparently a lot of criminals
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:04 AM
Thursday

were victims of child abuse and have no sympathy for abusers.

zorbasd

(504 posts)
35. Well, he pretty much have gotten away with
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:05 AM
Thursday

everything he has done all his life, with very little repricusions.

PatSeg

(51,448 posts)
38. I know and that still blows my mind
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:12 AM
Thursday

Meanwhile, the things he did over the years were public knowledge, yet he still got away with it.

misanthrope

(9,290 posts)
78. Think about this
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:25 PM
Thursday

How many other rotten humans are there out there with access to near-comparable wealth and power who have gotten away with similar because they were smart enough not to draw attention to themself in the same way as Trump did?

While the world contains stupefying wonder and beauty there is also a heap of heartbreaking awfulness in it.

SergeStorms

(19,830 posts)
50. Has it ever mattered?
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:43 PM
Thursday

His cult doesn't seem to care what he does just as long as he hates like they hate.

PatSeg

(51,448 posts)
61. Sadly, that is true
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 02:05 PM
Thursday

I remember lots of exposes on Trump back in 2016 and throughout his first term. Just one or two of those scandals would have destroyed anyone else's career in a heartbeat, but it all just slides off his fat back. They decided early on that he was their guy and refused to listen to any well documented information on the man or as you say, they just don't care.

Ah but now his bullshit policies are hurting them personally, not just those they hate. Maybe he's not so great after all?

3auld6phart

(1,664 posts)
77. Diaper
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:55 PM
Thursday

Don is not a wise man. The Guardians Of Pedo party will cover for him and many others that are on the Epstein files..

PatSeg

(51,448 posts)
86. I am sure the Epstein Pals
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 09:46 AM
Friday

stick together and protect one another. Kind of like a fraternity.

AllaN01Bear

(27,996 posts)
12. also, the nmot swearing in of a new congress critter who said they wou d vote for a file release.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 09:27 AM
Thursday

UpInArms

(53,706 posts)
5. That "doodle"
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 08:46 AM
Thursday

is disgustingly and revolting … and exposes so much darkness

Evil inhabits our country’s highest office

Botany

(75,855 posts)
13. You mean that doodle that was "planted into" Epstein's birthday book that was put together by Maxwell
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 09:30 AM
Thursday

….. 22 years ago just to make Trump look bad in 2025.

Wonderful Secrets

Botany

(75,855 posts)
40. We dare not tell "them" we have the power of time travel.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:13 AM
Thursday

After all that was how Barack Obama was able to go back in time to plant his birth announcement
in 3 different Hawaiian newspapers.

Raven123

(7,300 posts)
11. Will Johnson convene the House after Sherrill leaves?
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 09:16 AM
Thursday

And adjourn before her replacement is elected?

leftstreet

(38,208 posts)
43. There's also a TN seat in December
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:37 AM
Thursday

I don't know if it leans D or R

But yeah Johnson will be playing Musical Chairs

FakeNoose

(39,445 posts)
14. They know it and we know it
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 09:32 AM
Thursday

Nobody's fooling anybody. Let's get this out in the open.

Remember when Bill Clinton got a blowjob in the White House? Remember when we all had to hear the nasty details, no matter who got embarrassed. How is this any different?


lapfog_1

(31,423 posts)
80. I am certain that good ol jeffrey was blackmailing millionaires and billionaires
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 02:14 AM
Friday

by getting them to engage him as their financial advisor... and then skimming the money deposited with him as "fees" ( thus hiding the blackmail as legitimate services, paying taxes on the blackmail money.

The disturbing thing is that the description of what these men did to the young girls... they didn't just have sex or get a hand-job or something, they beat them and humiliated them and forced them to do things that people would find very disgusting, especially on an underage girl of 13 or 14 or so. Remember the Moscow hookers and the pee tape... now take that even further. We are talking about very rough sex and crying / screaming young girls... just getting a hand-job from an underage partner is rape... but taking it to forcible rape, beatings, whippings, maybe to the point of blood and possible broken bones... and maybe even past that with some the the hundreds to thousands of eastern European / Asian girls that were trafficked by Epstein and Maxwell, it would not surprise me that possibly one or more vanished when one of these monsters that think they are above the law unleashed their full depravity on one of the unfortunate girls ( or boys, but I think Jeffery was only into young girls ).

now who was Epstein's best friend, who thinks he can jut "grab them by the pussy", who had a teenage talent show where he could walk around into dressing rooms without anyone stopping him, who had a modeling agency that imported young girls from Eastern Europe, who had a "thing" for Eastern Slavic women ( so much that he married two of them )?

And one girl told a story ( and then disappeared ) about that same person violently raping her when she was one of Epstein's girls...

And then there is the birthday card that hints at a confession to all of this... secrets indeed.

and Epstein would have had multiple videos of each and every rape / beating / assault / humiliation. Probably from multiple angles and he probably made multiple copies...

ColoringFool

(73 posts)
81. They Had Better Be A Helluva Lot Worse
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 04:47 AM
Friday

Monica was an adult, age 23. Willing, by some reports eager.

But more to the point, President Clinton was not convicted.

Not exactly the outcome to be wished for Trump.

mn9driver

(4,798 posts)
15. The amount of damage by NOT releasing them is huge.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 09:38 AM
Thursday

It has become obvious that they contain absolutely damning evidence against Trump.

Attilatheblond

(7,782 posts)
24. Damning info on others in the file is one way Trump controls so many others
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:30 AM
Thursday

and gets millions in 'donations' from many. If the files are wide open, Donald loses EVERYTHING and is left with no power but a lot of indictments still to face. President Out On Bail is fucked.

WestMichRad

(2,780 posts)
19. They'll release the files only when...
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:07 AM
Thursday

pedophilia and sex trafficking have been normalized.
Or when they can replace every single Repuke and billionaire donor named with Democratic names.

FakeNoose

(39,445 posts)
66. If there were ONE Democrat in those secret files, it would have been released already
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 05:42 PM
Thursday

They have scoured the Epstein files backwards and forwards, and they can't find a single D name in there. That's why they haven't been released, and why it's kept hushed up. Somebody call Ken Starr ... oh that's right, he's dead.

babylonsister

(172,479 posts)
72. I would imagine a Dem or three might be involved.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 08:23 PM
Thursday

I think there are a lot more rethugs named, some high rollers, and the mango, the one who is in it up to his eyeballs.

ChicagoTeamster

(148 posts)
23. Then why aren't they turning on him and releasing everything they know? Not just Epstein but everything.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:25 AM
Thursday

Kevin McCarthy said Trump was on Putin's payroll along with other Republicans . Release everything from the Epstein files and Mueller investigation. What are these MAGA morons afraid of? Trump couldn't possibly have anything to blackmail them with .

YodaMom2

(131 posts)
42. I wouldn't be too sure about tRump not having any blackmail on them.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:37 AM
Thursday

We all know tRump himself is compromised and that Putin has so much dirt on him Russia could build their own tRump hillock. But you’ve gotta assume they have similar dirt on *numerous* US Congress members, especially anyone who traveled to Russia for any reason (they spy on virtually everyone).

Given that the Epstein operation’s major source of money is widely believed to have come from laundering money for Russian oligarchs and the Russian mob (I know, that’s redundant), they would have motive to share some of their dirt with Mango Mussolini so he can use it to keep them in line and continuing to stall and impede on his/their behalf.

ChicagoTeamster

(148 posts)
49. I was being sarcastic. I tried to put a sarcasm tag in angle brackets but it didn't show. New to posting.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:34 PM
Thursday

I'm sure there are many compromised Republicans. Madison Cawthorne and George Santos were among the newest, others like former Congressman Dana Rohrabacher go way back.

ColoringFool

(73 posts)
82. TRUMP'S "major source of money....mob" is equally true.
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 04:55 AM
Friday

A Trump son even stated that fact outright (well, he might have omitted the word "mob" ).

The EF contain damning evidence of BOTH PEDOPHILIA AND TREASON by Trump.

Remember: He's a textbook Projection case. And just this week he accused Pres. Obama of treason.

sop

(16,851 posts)
28. I hope you're right.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 10:40 AM
Thursday

If pictures with naked underage girls doesn't break Trump's back, nothing will.

CaptainTruth

(7,999 posts)
33. Seems like reason for impeachment once we take the House.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:05 AM
Thursday

Force GOP members of Congress to vote to protect a pedophile.

That should win over a lot of voters. [sarcasm]

Kablooie

(19,011 posts)
34. I still expect that ...
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:05 AM
Thursday

If strong evidence came out that Trump raped children we will hear plenty of excuses why raping children isn’t so bad.

Doodley

(11,514 posts)
37. Don't hold your breath. The files will probably never be released, if they still exist. If they are released, Trump
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:11 AM
Thursday

will blame Democrats for creating fakes and MAGA will be furious with Democrats, not Trump . As long as Trump is deporting immigrants and being racist, they will worship him.

Moostache

(10,915 posts)
39. At thiss point I no longer really care about the Trumpstein files...
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:13 AM
Thursday

Let him die believing that he successfully dodged accountability. Once he is dead, the tell-all books and accounts will sprout like weeds and sully his (already) worthless reputation in the history books as a hateful, incompetent pedo/sex criminal and he will be reviled and the "Trump" name soiled for the next 7 generations.

He thinks in one-day intervals. His legacy is fouled beyond repair already, and these sexual deviant acts with Epstein will eventually be just as known as his sexual assaults and lying and cheating life. He is the very lowest humanity can sink to in pursuit of fame and attention seeking. But in death, he will be brutalized like no one since Nero or Idi Amin perhaps?

MichMan

(16,263 posts)
41. I will never understand why the Biden/Harris administration didn't release them
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:27 AM
Thursday

As an October surprise

ColoringFool

(73 posts)
83. I Can Think Of Some Reasons
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 05:00 AM
Friday

Taking "the high road."

Protecting some Democrats.

Having a misguided notion of National Security.

Buns_of_Fire

(18,903 posts)
44. And if they're *never* released (which is what I suspect will happen)?
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:53 AM
Thursday

Well, it's giving people lots of time to speculate on what must be in them to merit the delay. The longer the wait, the more damaging the speculations become. That's what happens (ask Nixon).

In that respect, the refusal to release them may be worse politically for the Guardians Of Pedophiles. Just keep linking "Epstein" to "Trump" and/or "Republicans" at every opportunity.

usonian

(22,372 posts)
45. Even if there are no sex crimes described (and no doubt, they are. The guy has no discretion) then his empire is gone.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:10 PM
Thursday

And all his friends, enablers and partners in the criminal enterprise.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220735608

👆👆👆👆👆

ForgedCrank

(2,973 posts)
48. Do we
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:31 PM
Thursday

really believe that if there were something actually tangible there, that it wouldn't have already been produced before Trump took office?
This is still nothing more than tabloid talk, just like when the Republicans were saying the same crap about various Democrats including Clinton, and all of that was BS too. We need to move on to policy, this stuff is really making us look silly. This is just Pizza-Gate reinvented.

tinrobot

(11,870 posts)
51. Interesting that it's GOP House members who are leaking this...
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:47 PM
Thursday

Drip... drip... drip...

I sense that the dam is about to break.

FakeNoose

(39,445 posts)
70. I think a lot of them are disgusted by Chump
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 07:04 PM
Thursday

They're starting to realize that getting rid of him would be a good thing. Even a GREAT thing.

viva la

(4,401 posts)
53. Kash Patel refused to answer Swallwell about whether he told Bondi Trump was in the files.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:50 PM
Thursday

He got more and more agitated and started screeching about sanctuary cities.
No one could have looked more guilty.

RockRaven

(18,349 posts)
54. They say that... AND THEY ARE ACTIVELY COVERING IT UP.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:56 PM
Thursday

No self-awareness.

"Oh man, this is really bad for him" as if they aren't party to it because of their choice to actively cover for him.

It is really bad for YOU because YOU are engaged in hiding it.

Grins

(9,086 posts)
55. "...worse than Trump with half naked teenage girls." OF COURSE IT'S WORSE!
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 01:01 PM
Thursday

It’s Trump! A barrel of sleez with no bottom.

What I learned in the Army: “When they say things are bad - THEY’RE WORSE!!”

democrank

(11,929 posts)
57. Even though some GOP House members know this truth about Trump
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 01:17 PM
Thursday

they still refuse to take action. Protecting the Grand Old Party is of utmost importance as is protecting their members who abuse children. Anything goes….Nazis, child groomers, insurrectionists, white nationalists, and a whole lot more. They are a disgusting group of people who have abandoned all principles of decency.

Response to BlueWaveNeverEnd (Original post)

Blue Owl

(57,890 posts)
64. The difference between Clinton's Lewinsky scandal and tRump's Epstein scandal
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 03:12 PM
Thursday

In terms of the seriousness-to-media coverage ratio is absolutely ridiculous and should destroy any thinking person’s trust in the corporate mainstream media.

spanone

(140,656 posts)
71. Of course they are, that's why he's done everything possible to distract.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 07:09 PM
Thursday

GUILTY AS HELL

AN INNOCENT MAN WOULD INSIST ON RELEASING THEM

Ping Tung

(4,003 posts)
87. They're not as worried about Trump as they are about their own asses when he crumbles.
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 11:58 AM
Saturday

They won't be boasting about their attachments to Trump and MAGA.

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