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karynnj

(60,671 posts)
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:01 AM Thursday

MSNBC has a story that DOJ will indict John Brennan

They had a discussion on it, mostly saying that it is hard to guess why as most things done while he was in the Obama administration are well past time limits.

What I wonder is if they charge on anything related to the Russian election probe could his lawyers demand the unredacted Mueller report?

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MSNBC has a story that DOJ will indict John Brennan (Original Post) karynnj Thursday OP
He says mean things about Himself, which of course is illegal. Ocelot II Thursday #1
They see this alone as punishment and "a win" underpants Thursday #2
Correct Mz Pip Thursday #3
Yes people have to hire attorneys, suffer damage to reputation, become a target for violence. Irish_Dem Thursday #7
Exactly. Even if (when) the case is dismissed for any reason, he still has to go through the hassle Ocelot II Thursday #5
The risk here is that it will resurrect the real Russia story karynnj Thursday #8
Where is the ACLU in all of this? Moostache Thursday #4
Brennan doesn't need the ACLU - he has resources. Ocelot II Thursday #6
And their plate is probably very full right now PatSeg Thursday #10
From their website UnderThisLaw Thursday #11
DURec leftstreet Thursday #9
This is from Ken Dilanian LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #12
i don't see how they charge in florida. rampartd Thursday #13
... SheltieLover Thursday #14
He is ex CIA director and knows spooks. Sneederbunk Thursday #15

underpants

(193,864 posts)
2. They see this alone as punishment and "a win"
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:04 AM
Thursday

He has to spend money on lawyers. He dared do something they are sure was in opposition to Dear Leader.

Irish_Dem

(77,782 posts)
7. Yes people have to hire attorneys, suffer damage to reputation, become a target for violence.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:20 AM
Thursday

It is all time consuming, costly and dangerous.

Ocelot II

(128,249 posts)
5. Exactly. Even if (when) the case is dismissed for any reason, he still has to go through the hassle
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:07 AM
Thursday

and expense of responding. It's as bogus as the Comey and James cases, and with the same objective.

karynnj

(60,671 posts)
8. The risk here is that it will resurrect the real Russia story
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:24 AM
Thursday

Mueller actually indicted several people, who took a plea or were found guilty including Manaford. Even though hidden by Barr's lies, the conclusion seemed to be there was ample evidence that Russia did interfere against HRC for Trump, but it was not clear they had enough proof that Trump colluded. (Note the latter was when he was President - so it is a pretty damning report, much of which was not made public.)

For Brennan in 2016, it would have been negligent to NOT pursue foreign interference. Not to mention, the Obama administration tried to make a bipartisan joint statement on intelligence with the Republicans, but McConnell refused. The statement put out before the election carefully limited itself to Russian interference, not collusion with Trump and his campaign.

If anything, a case could be made that the Obama administration was extremely careful in not accusing Trump before the election. This even as Manford was doing some pretty suspicious stuff. The campaign also was involved with Cambridge Analytics using Facebook data and some of that data was rumored to have sent to Russia. If so, that data may have helped the troll farm target people on Facebook with lies.

Moostache

(10,915 posts)
4. Where is the ACLU in all of this?
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:07 AM
Thursday

Why are they not taking these obviously bullshit indictment pro bono and arguing the merits and seeking redress from Trump's incompetent and clearly JV-level DOJ?

I don't get it. These cases are so flimsy and full of shit that I could likely defend myself against them and win a dismissal on the merits...

Ocelot II

(128,249 posts)
6. Brennan doesn't need the ACLU - he has resources.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:08 AM
Thursday

Anyhow, ACLU handles cases on behalf of people who have no resources that involve public defense, and prisoners' rights; they don't handle direct criminal defense cases for individuals.

LetMyPeopleVote

(172,486 posts)
12. This is from Ken Dilanian
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 11:36 AM
Thursday


New: The Justice Department is preparing to issue a series of grand jury subpoenas as part of its investigation into former CIA Director John Brennan and the probes by the CIA and FBI into Russian interference in the 2016 election, MSNBC has learned.

The investigation is being supervised by the U.S. Attorney in South Florida, Jason Quinones, in consultation with Justice Department senior staff in Washington, according to a source familiar with the matter and other information obtained by MSNBC.

The Justice Department did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The Florida-based inquiry comes two years after a special counsel appointed by then Attorney General Bill Barr in the first Trump Administration concluded a lengthy and exhaustive investigation that found no criminal wrongdoing by Brennan or any other major figure connected with the Russian election interference matter.

A White House spokesman confirmed the existence of the grand jury investigation in August after Fox News reported that Attorney General Pam Bondi ordered the probe based on a criminal referral from Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard.

I do not see how they get around the statute of limitations
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