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Irish_Dem

(77,800 posts)
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 01:03 PM Thursday

From Reddit: ICE arrests

-If you are using undocumented immigrants' tax records to find and kidnap them, then it was never about them paying taxes.

-If you are showing up at their place of employment, then it was never about them not working.

-If you are showing up at courthouses, then it was never about getting them to "do it the right way".

-If you are kidnapping innocent people and children, then it was never about criminals.

-If you're refusing to give them due process, then it was never about the Constitution.

-If you are building concentration camps in Florida to keep them here in cages, then it was never about the border.

-If you're spending billions to do this, then it was never about the economy.

-And if you're doing all this in the name of a 34 time convicted felon, then it was never about following the law.

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From Reddit: ICE arrests (Original Post) Irish_Dem Thursday OP
Excellent irony. usonian Thursday #1
Perfect, sums it up quite well PatSeg Thursday #2
Yes everything was a total lie. Irish_Dem Thursday #3
It was all about fear, not immigration PatSeg Thursday #4
Yes Trump does not care about the immigration issue. Irish_Dem Thursday #7
Not to mention that PatSeg Thursday #8
Two of his wives were immigrants. Melania was an illegal. Irish_Dem Thursday #9
AND Trump's mother was an immigrant as well PatSeg Thursday #12
Yep mother too. Irish_Dem Thursday #13
Yes, create division in order to gain PatSeg Thursday #14
Divide and Conquer. Ancient Roman tactic. Irish_Dem Thursday #15
It's a cliche for a reason PatSeg Thursday #16
Yes. All textbook moves - but they work on some people. yellow dahlia Thursday #18
Obviously, being tyrants have PatSeg Friday #21
I suspect a lot of the people working for him also enjoy the cruelty and sense of power over. Biophilic Thursday #10
Trump is running a crime syndicate so of course he hires sadistic psychopaths. Irish_Dem Thursday #11
I can hear the sadism in his voice sometimes. yellow dahlia Thursday #17
Yes the insulting, sneering, cruel tone. Irish_Dem Thursday #19
K & R malaise Thursday #5
and if you're not going into high crime / gang controlled areas and making arrests, azureblue Thursday #6
All that military gear, traveling in ICE gangs to places where criminal gangs NEVER are bunch of overpaid cowards Attilatheblond Friday #20
All true, and they love every minute of it dwayneb Friday #22
Right out of the Gestapo play book. Irish_Dem Friday #23

PatSeg

(51,448 posts)
2. Perfect, sums it up quite well
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 02:46 PM
Thursday

Also, if they are showing up for appointments to get work visas or for asylum, then they are not "undocumented". They are doing things the right way and now they're getting arrested, detained, and deported.

PatSeg

(51,448 posts)
4. It was all about fear, not immigration
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 03:06 PM
Thursday

It is a campaign of terror meant to keep the peasants in line. Plus, I think he enjoys it.

Irish_Dem

(77,800 posts)
7. Yes Trump does not care about the immigration issue.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 03:09 PM
Thursday

It is about power, intimidation, fear, control.
Yes it is done for the purpose of power and making people compliant.
And yes Trump is a sadist and he loves the cruelty and brutality.

PatSeg

(51,448 posts)
8. Not to mention that
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 03:40 PM
Thursday

Trump loves hiring illegal immigrants at his various properties and businesses. He's always done so. It is so easy to rip them off because they're less likely to complain if they don't get paid what was promised.

Irish_Dem

(77,800 posts)
9. Two of his wives were immigrants. Melania was an illegal.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 03:43 PM
Thursday

She lied to get an Einstein Visa.
Unless being a hooker/porn model makes you eligible for that Visa.

PatSeg

(51,448 posts)
12. AND Trump's mother was an immigrant as well
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 07:10 PM
Thursday

Basically it would seem that Trump actually loves immigrants.....well, as long as they're not brown.

Irish_Dem

(77,800 posts)
13. Yep mother too.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 07:21 PM
Thursday

Oh I don't know if he cares about immigrants or not.
Could just be an issue he used to steal the WH.

It is a Putin strategy.

Putin has created wars and civil conflict around the globe, creating refugees.
He steers the refuges to democratic countries. He then can install his puppet
leaders across Europe and in the US who run on the immigration issue.

Immigrants as evil strategy to grab power in western democracies.

Putin uses it to divide a country to get power.

PatSeg

(51,448 posts)
14. Yes, create division in order to gain
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 07:24 PM
Thursday

and hold onto power. Right out of the dictator's playbook.

Biophilic

(6,263 posts)
10. I suspect a lot of the people working for him also enjoy the cruelty and sense of power over.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 03:49 PM
Thursday

azureblue

(2,615 posts)
6. and if you're not going into high crime / gang controlled areas and making arrests,
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 03:07 PM
Thursday

That says everything about ICE. They want the easy targets, not the ones that actually matter..

Attilatheblond

(7,781 posts)
20. All that military gear, traveling in ICE gangs to places where criminal gangs NEVER are bunch of overpaid cowards
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 09:41 AM
Friday

getting paid to act on their sociopathic impulses. MACA: Make America Cringe Again

dwayneb

(1,099 posts)
22. All true, and they love every minute of it
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 09:55 AM
Friday

The ICE campaign has always been about cruelty and spreading fear. As was true for the whole narrative about the dangers of illegal immigrants.

A true fascist feeds on the sick joy of putting their boot on a neck, or clubbing a head, or kicking a defenseless human being when he/she is on the ground. And we are not far off from the ultimate joy of lining up the "communists" and shooting them in the back of the head execution style.

It has always been this way. It just too someone like Trump to tap into the dark and depraved Fascist heart of rural America.

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