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Javaman

(64,881 posts)
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 05:36 PM Thursday

I'm really starting to truly understand both the French and the Russians prior to their revolutions.

just sayin...

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canetoad

(19,821 posts)
8. I'm lucky
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 05:59 PM
Thursday

Never been what you call 'well off' but have never gone hungry for more than a couple of hours when a meal has been late. I cannot bear to imagine the gnawing, hopeless, unabated misery of real hunger.

I'm well aware that many atrocities were committed both during and after the French revolution. Thugs can go hungry too and there would have been a fair share of thugs among the decent French people fighting an existential battle. That, unfortunately is the price that had to be paid. There was no escaping it.

bucolic_frolic

(53,228 posts)
4. The Anatomy of Revolution - Crane Brinton
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 05:42 PM
Thursday

1938, and a heavy read, but still a classic starting point for the topic.

Xolodno

(7,241 posts)
7. The anger just brews then....
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 05:54 PM
Thursday

...it's never one major event, its a straw that breaks the camel's back and all hell breaks loose. Problem is, what comes afterwards isn't very preferential either. Libya, Syria, Yemen, etc. are learning that now.

Laffy Kat

(16,815 posts)
9. And if I recall correctly, the French proletariat invented a special mechanism for the aristocracy.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 06:05 PM
Thursday

In order to get their point across.

Javaman

(64,881 posts)
11. oh I know, read a few books on it.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 07:20 PM
Thursday

it's never ever straight forth. it's a mess. lots of revenge killings.

even our revolution, had it's few exact a pound of flesh or two.

WarGamer

(18,098 posts)
12. Both revolutions were disastrous to their respective nations and neighbors.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 07:28 PM
Thursday

Nothing to admire.

Javaman

(64,881 posts)
14. don't admire, I just getting the feeling how they felt BEFORE the revolution.
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 07:30 PM
Thursday

I know full well what happened and the truly horrible shit that happened.

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