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I'm old enough to remember Trump firing several hundred air traffic controllers in February (Original Post) surfered Friday OP
Me too, but weren't they new-hires and trainees? FakeNoose Friday #1
Training takes 2-5 months, so some of those hired would have been done with training. Also... lostnfound Friday #3
Ah, yes, DOGE has faded from memory but we're left with the consequences bucolic_frolic Friday #2
This should be plastered at every airport: "Come Die With Us!" RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Friday #4

FakeNoose

(39,444 posts)
1. Me too, but weren't they new-hires and trainees?
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 10:01 AM
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I don't think any trained ATC were fired in that round. However we all saw where this was headed ....

lostnfound

(17,290 posts)
3. Training takes 2-5 months, so some of those hired would have been done with training. Also...
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 10:14 AM
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’new hires’ include people who are newly promoted but actually can have many years of experience.

Lastly — in a skilled job like that, you are likely to put most experienced people in high traffic, more difficult regions and time slots, but newer staff can fill a seat* (*”developmental controller” for as little as 1 year) during off-peak hours or regions with lighter traffic. If you DON’T have that, then your more experienced people are probably working longer hours, deferring vacations, getting burned out. It’s already such a high stress job.

But like other high-stress important jobs, our country chooses to skimp, privatize, discount, demean…

Back in the late 1970s, my high school counselor showed me an Occupational Handbook. Back then, an EMT was a highly respected well paid job; so was Air Traffic Control.

Now, as a society, there is no room for that; it’s “All Hail, the Tech Billionaires!” And maybe a few celebrities, sports stars…

bucolic_frolic

(53,228 posts)
2. Ah, yes, DOGE has faded from memory but we're left with the consequences
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 10:03 AM
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Department of Government Efficiency. Trouble is those who began and run this policy believe no government is best, so the efficiency is from their perspective.

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