he's done.

[link:https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/chinese-ev-makers-sell-more-plugin-hybrids-eu-avoid-tariffs-research-firm-says-2025-05-01/]

[link:|https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-10-29/china-blows-past-record-for-europe-car-sales-on-hybrid-ev-gains]

that Tesla exponential growth is not in the future.

reading articles about China's EVs. Musk doesn't stand a chance in the world long term.

I'd be amazed if the company is even around in ten years.

Bookmark this.

I hope we're both still on DU in 10 years to see who's right. I will gladly admit it if you are.

Just for shits and giggles...........

The Model Y holds the title of the best-selling car globally, and its performance is quite satisfactory (even if Musk can be overly optimistic at times).

Tesla is set to keep growing and maintain its position as the leading company in electric vehicles. For years, there have been predictions of their downfall or obscurity.

for 3 years and down this year. Where is the growth?

because Trump ended the EV tax credit.
Let's see what the next 2 quarters look like.

Read something that isn't a Tesla PR release.

https://www.theverge.com/news/790046/tesla-q3-2025-sales-production-delivery

And it's declining sales.

https://ycharts.com/indicators/tesla_inc_tsla_total_deliveries_quarterly

That's not sustainable growth. In the first half of the year their sales were down 24% from 2024. In the 3rd quarter, they were up 7%, but that's the end of the tax credit.

Musk has been selling his faulty full self driving software for years without delivering on it and they are still less safe than others because they refuse to use lidar.

Before Musk came out as a Nazi. It is currently number 4 in 2025 so far.

His fortunes are tied to that of his companies. But, if he were able to divest and then reinvest that 500 billion in the S&P 500, he could realistically get there in 10 years just sitting on the couch. Billionaires never seem to retire so being in his mid 50's I wouldn't count him out.

which is all tied to Tesla's over inflated stock price, BTW
It's the pay Tesla says he will get if they grow to 10 x their current size.

The negotiations will now begin where these incentives will be continually reduced until Musk can eventually reach them without growing Tesla at all.

Nice to get some context to these numbers.

along with others I have spoken to about Tesla.......are their drivers. We used to all agree that BMW drivers were BY FAR the #1 most inconsiderate, aggressive, and arrogant drivers on the roads......However, we have agreed that we are definitely seeing Tesla drivers challenging that #1 spot, there are just less of them......

think about the type of person who would still drive a Tesla.

It's bad enough driving in New Hanover County. It's a place where every day on average there are around a half dozen serious car accidents.

Biking fatalities and car crashes and just general driver insanity land it statically in the top five most dangerous places to drive in the state of NC with a consistent pattern of high collision rates.

Interstate 40 is like a race track. The speed limit is 70 mph but most drivers do 80-85 and it's so congested everyone is forced to keep pace or get run over. I've been harassed and forced to move many times by aggressive drivers.

Almost every single one in a Tesla sedan. Once they pass, if they can race ahead, they will floor it. Most likely just to prove a point. Always young white guy drivers. Clearly assh*les.

the Denver Metro Area..........it is getting insane around here.......My two grandkids are banned from driving on any Interstate or Highway around Denver..........

And the winter with snow is fast coming on.......I can hardly wait........

Seems this is the least of worries...........Screwing with ATC is much much more frightening.........

Unlike cars that use more sophisticated technology, it relies on visual recognition from cameras, which is not reliable when visibility is not. I predict this will catch up with them:

But he's already received much of what he wanted in public perception. He's all about smoke and mirrors. He has been awarded a trillion dollar pay package. No one will ever forget that and he can always tout that, regardless of whether he collects. It's like Trumps fake Time magazine covers and fake FIFA Peace Prizes.

That I have been seeing videos of on Youtube. They use a new battery that is made from aluminum rather than lithium. They are claiming a 500 mile range and that the battery "will outlast the car" which could be a good thing or a bad thing 😀. They are planning to sell it for $10,200+ globally which probably translates to $20,000 in the US. That is a very reasonable cost if the car works and actually gets produced.

Then they would just have to overcome Elon loathing.

more Musk BS.

https://evworld.com/article.php?id=293&slug=tesla-model-2-fact-vs-fiction

It's a shit car brand with a shit Dollar Store Hitler at the helm. For reasons unknown to me, the Stans will continue to funnel money to someone who literally tossed a couple sieg heils on live tv, propping up his baseless lies (derp, we's gunna have that kickass new roadster on April 1st, derp dee dee derp...again) and rewarding his fascist bullshit.

Release the Epstein files!

technology has fallen behind, and nowadays its cars are rather dull and stodgy compared to others.

for over 7 years.

2018


2025

in decades. He built a plant at the cost of $2 to $3 billion that could produce over 250,000 trucks a year.
To date they have sold 16,000, with sales declining and owners finding they can't even trade them in. It will be gone within a year or two.

But they expect him to grow the company 10 fold?!?