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Apolitical and more interested in watching Bonanza than the nightly news, Mr. Cleary was a 19-year-old freshman architecture major at Kent State when protests against the Vietnam War turned violent on campus Following the shooting, Mr. Cleary spent weeks in a hospital and then moved back home. He returned to Kent State the following year to resume his studies. After graduating in 1974, he married his college sweetheart, Kathy Bashaw, and they settled near Pittsburgh. For the next decade, he barely mentioned the shooting and declined to take part in reunions or commemorations. He estimated that 90 percent of his friends and colleagues didnt know he was the wounded student on the cover of Life.
There was another reason.
In the aftermath of the shooting, his conservative family and neighbors in upstate New York pressured him to say nothing critical about the guardsmen who had shot him and 12 others, Mr. VanDeMark wrote in his book. He began not just hiding his involvement but denying it.
That changed in 1981, when his son Andrew was born on May 4. I felt like God was telling me something, he said. You cannot bury this. You cannot pretend it did not happen to you. You cannot put it behind you. It is something that you need to confront. Mr. Cleary began attending anniversary events at Kent State. He agreed to be interviewed by reporters. And slowly, he became a quiet yet powerful voice in warning about the dangers of poisonous political discourse and the suppression of free speech. The lesson, he said, was to de-escalate.
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MagickMuffin
(17,990 posts)In 1970, he was a student at Kent State University in Kent, Ohio, and witnessed the 1970 Kent State Shootings. Two people killed at the shootings, Jeffrey Miller and Allison Krause, were friends of Casale. In a 2020 interview, he stated, "I went through some traumatic change. It was just a fork in the road where you realize everything you've been told is a lie. [...] We didn't see progress. We saw it going backwards, we start getting more tribal and more demonically mean and more chaotic."
Kent State is where DEVO was born. A really fascinating story of how they met and how music changed their lives. Every Friday night they premiere a video flashback of their beginnings and the creative process they used for their art.
I wanted to add Im glad that John Cleary had a change of heart after his child was born on that tragic day. It made me sad he was gaslit into denying what happened to him.
electric_blue68
(24,854 posts)I was 17. It was a traumatic experience hearing the news, then sering the photos etc.
I did see the band here in NYC.
Rest in peace, Mr Cleary.
calimary
(88,492 posts)Wow! Kent State, the birthplace of DEVO.
littlemissmartypants
(30,882 posts)The better part of the early hours of the next day hanging out with them. One of what I call my brushes with greatness.
rubbersole
(10,864 posts)A group of us in Orlando, FL had been protesting the Vietnam War for about a year and never experienced or expected physical harm. Got flipped off regularly and called names, but basically the whole area was very conservative and supportive of Nixon and the war. Kent State changed all of us. Shit got real - quickly. 5 of us traveled to Berkeley in August of '70. Stayed 6 weeks with friends and came home dedicated to our convictions and positive we were on the correct path.
May 4th, 1970...can't say for sure how I'd be different if those students hadn't been shot, but the resolve probably wouldn't have been anywhere near as intense.
littlemissmartypants
(30,882 posts)sinkingfeeling
(56,771 posts)karynnj
(60,671 posts)This is like Trump's claim in Portland. From memory, though protestors challenged the guard and were in places they were asked to leave, the protests themselves did not become violent. The guard response did.
As a student at IU, I remember the shock and intense fear that our government would shoot people like us.