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orangecrush

(27,534 posts)
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:09 PM Sunday

BREAKING SCHUMER IS CAVING +1 202 224 6542

A handful of Senate Democrats on Sunday indicated they are ready to advance a package of bills that could end the government shutdown, multiple sources told Axios.

Why it matters: It is the most significant movement toward a bipartisan breakthrough in the talks to reopen the government in over a month.

At least 10 Senate Democrats are expected to support a procedural motion to advance a package of spending bills and a short term funding measure through the end of January, multiple sources from both parties told Axios.
The deal would include a December vote on a Democratic proposal to extend ACA tax credits for one year, multiple sources said. It would take 60 votes to pass.
It could also include some kind of language to help federal workers who have been laid off under the shutdown.

https://www.axios.com/2025/11/09/senate-deal-to-end-government-shutdown-sunday-vote

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BREAKING SCHUMER IS CAVING +1 202 224 6542 (Original Post) orangecrush Sunday OP
I agree with Aaron Rupar senseandsensibility Sunday #1
The promise of a Republican IS nothing. Maru Kitteh Sunday #75
This is worse than nothing - Ms. Toad Sunday #88
Lucy will pull the ball again! Catbird Sunday #2
Is there any way to remove Schumer from his position of power if Lucy pulls the ball? Baitball Blogger Sunday #17
He serves at the pleasure of the Democratic caucus. tritsofme Sunday #18
Schumer is doing what he was elected to do. Shipwack Sunday #90
AOC for Senate 2026. She would have some backbone here. LonePirate Sunday #28
Post removed Post removed Sunday #3
Article says 10 Senate Democrats mcar Sunday #4
Because threats no way in hell they'd do it without his approval Samael13 Sunday #7
Hmm. Except no. This appears to be more MSM bullshit mcar Sunday #9
Thank you. MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #12
Glad to know its bs Samael13 Sunday #20
I agree. mcar Sunday #21
We suffer now or suffer a lot more later if we cave now Attilatheblond Sunday #81
Seems Sen Schumer is the Favoeite Cha Sunday #52
Thanks Cha mcar Sunday #58
Yeah, it's a Freaking Epidemic. Cha Sunday #60
I write this in the hospital. I have cardiac catherization tomorrow Demsrule86 Sunday #74
Best Healing Vibes for you, Dems. Cha Sunday #77
Thanks. I have issues with congestive heart failure Demsrule86 Sunday #78
He whipped and negotiated it. Demsrule86 Sunday #72
We give in to the Republicans, hadEnuf Sunday #82
If true, Schumer's career is over Mr.WeRP Sunday #5
No disrespect to you and I'm not saying whether or not I believe, MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #6
It appears to be more Axios/MSM stenography mcar Sunday #10
It's on CNN and MSNBC right now senseandsensibility Sunday #11
So it's still not a done deal. MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #15
No not a done deal senseandsensibility Sunday #16
Hope you're right. I still called. -eom vanessa_ca Sunday #45
I called also and left a very polite but forceful don't give up message. MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #46
Thank you! vanessa_ca Sunday #47
Same orangecrush Sunday #50
Weren't they all reporting last week mcar Sunday #19
does this sound like a deal that's done mcar Sunday #8
I called Schumer's office..... richdj25 Sunday #13
He better damn well have the 60 votes. Prairie_Seagull Sunday #14
Caving? mzmolly Sunday #22
Do you have a source for the extending ACA credits? senseandsensibility Sunday #24
CBS and others are reporting on it. mzmolly Sunday #30
Okay, but the OP is about the Senate "caving" senseandsensibility Sunday #37
Surely the house and senate mzmolly Sunday #39
The House has no filibuster though Polybius Sunday #69
They got a deal for a vote in the senate Dangling0826 Sunday #25
See here: mzmolly Sunday #31
In which case, the repubs and only the repubs are the reason the government stays shut onenote Sunday #33
Kyle never misses a chance to make a video dumping on democrats Dangling0826 Sunday #23
There not getting 60 votes standingtall Sunday #26
When was the ACA repealed? MichMan Sunday #32
Did you see the word tried in my post? standingtall Sunday #79
Sooo, you're saying, "THIS IS SERIES!!1! CALL CONGRESS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!111!!!"? LudwigPastorius Sunday #27
A blast from the past - nt TBF Sunday #35
Yup orangecrush Sunday #51
Axios political bias, leans left. Emile Sunday #29
Oh no! A center left news outlet?!?! ForgoTheConsequence Sunday #34
I think we'd prefer less spin mzmolly Sunday #36
I'd prefer some communication from leadership and not talking heads. Deuxcents Sunday #40
Agree. I'm sure once any deal is made mzmolly Sunday #42
I'd like some facts and some plans..they know how to email and mail out for donations.. some facts, please Deuxcents Sunday #48
I don't care what some anonymous website says Wiz Imp Sunday #55
Media bias analysts generally rate Axios as centrist or middle on the political spectrum. Emile Sunday #59
If 10 democrats vote for this, they will be primaried. TBF Sunday #38
All is know is this: hamsterjill Sunday #41
I hope not, but I called. So did my mom -eom vanessa_ca Sunday #43
I just called Schumer's DC office..I said we marched, we voted and we gave you momentum..do not cave Deuxcents Sunday #44
Trump doesn't give a shit. All he cares about is his ego. That's why there would never be a good ending to this. everyonematters Sunday #49
I'm sick EnergizedLib Sunday #53
Same orangecrush Sunday #54
If they do this they will demoralize voters and they wont come out in 2018 SamuelTheThird Sunday #56
I'm guessing that you meant to write 2028 instead of 2018. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #57
Everything old is new again? Maru Kitteh Sunday #91
"Chuck Schumer doing what he does best:" red dog 1 Sunday #61
Agreed. Schumer has been unequal to the task, from the beginning. Paladin Sunday #64
This message was self-deleted by its author Grim Chieftain Sunday #62
The repukes are pressing the bullshit hard to change the narrative Javaman Sunday #63
4 Words.. Schumer needs to GO!!! Ars Longa Sunday #65
ACA subsidies for our time. Surely the word of Donadolf Trumpler and his party can be trusted... Lancero Sunday #66
Nope. It's bullshit. Right wing propaganda. Nt Javaman Sunday #67
Welp, that comment didn't age well Polybius Sunday #89
Nope it didn't.. because as spineless as the repukes are to trump Javaman Sunday #92
No confidence C_U_L8R Sunday #68
I called. Demsrule86 Sunday #70
Same orangecrush Sunday #71
Good news. Federal & military workers will get paid! n/t Jacson6 Sunday #73
Oh yeah for sure. I guess the ACA doesn't matter Demsrule86 Sunday #76
I just called Schumer and there is still room for more voice mails! BigmanPigman Sunday #80
Yup senseandsensibility Sunday #83
Thank you orangecrush Sunday #84
I posted the phone number on YouTube podcast comments section and BigmanPigman Sunday #85
Thanks orangecrush Sunday #86
I could support actually extending the credits for a year. Ms. Toad Sunday #87
Traitors are amongst us ‼️ flying-skeleton Monday #93

Ms. Toad

(37,980 posts)
88. This is worse than nothing -
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:12 PM
Sunday

even if they follow through on their promise to vote, they can still vote no and not break their promise.

Baitball Blogger

(51,446 posts)
17. Is there any way to remove Schumer from his position of power if Lucy pulls the ball?
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:41 PM
Sunday

This is exactly the reason why no one is showing much sorrow for Pelosi's announcement of retirement. It will be worse for Schumer.

tritsofme

(19,727 posts)
18. He serves at the pleasure of the Democratic caucus.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:44 PM
Sunday

He could be sacked this afternoon, it’s just that no members are interested in such a thing.

He was reelected unanimously.

Shipwack

(2,907 posts)
90. Schumer is doing what he was elected to do.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:29 PM
Sunday

Preserve the status quo for Third Way Democrats and centrists.

No rocking the boat.

No push for progressive policies.

Fight a little, but not so hard that you win.

Don’t fire up the base, piss on progressives, don’t challenge the Right.

Response to orangecrush (Original post)

mcar

(45,473 posts)
9. Hmm. Except no. This appears to be more MSM bullshit
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:33 PM
Sunday

Yeah, despite the rumblings from other reporters this still feels like another bit of Axios wishcasting.

What's for certain is that any Democrat who votes to cave now and betray the base in exchange for nothing at all will live to regret it.

Kevin M. Kruse (@kevinmkruse.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T20:25:27.137Z


OK, "test vote" seems to give the game away.

There's no deal.

bsky.app/profile/bloo...

Kevin M. Kruse (@kevinmkruse.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T20:26:33.353Z


"No Democrats have publicly flipped their position."

MarineCombatEngineer

(16,762 posts)
12. Thank you.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:35 PM
Sunday

This is why I'm waiting on further information before I jump on the Jump on Sen. Schumer bandwagon.

Samael13

(83 posts)
20. Glad to know its bs
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:45 PM
Sunday

I hate that im supporting a shutdown but I dont trust republicans to deal fair or above board

mcar

(45,473 posts)
21. I agree.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:47 PM
Sunday

I can also see why some Democrats really do want to re-open government, as their constituents are suffering. But I hope this is BS.

Cha

(315,774 posts)
52. Seems Sen Schumer is the Favoeite
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:04 PM
Sunday

GD Punching Bag.

Mahalo for All your Information That "There Is No Deal".

Cha

(315,774 posts)
60. Yeah, it's a Freaking Epidemic.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:28 PM
Sunday

So ready to jump on our Dems here on DU.

I really Appreciate all of us who don't get in on the Constant Bashing of Dems.. We've seen this bad scene before.. it led to the Traitor getting in our WH in the 1st place.

Demsrule86

(71,416 posts)
74. I write this in the hospital. I have cardiac catherization tomorrow
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:06 PM
Sunday

And other stuff as well. Healthcare is important. Schumer supported the stupid bill in the first place and he has done this. And Snap is already cancelled so who did we help? I will support a primary for Schumer I think AOC could beat him. I will donate. Democrats need to stop caving. This empowers Trump and folks won’t believe Democrats anymore.

I hope you are well Cha…,

Demsrule86

(71,416 posts)
78. Thanks. I have issues with congestive heart failure
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:19 PM
Sunday

They are checking the heart thoroughly. I had a valve replacement in 2023.

Demsrule86

(71,416 posts)
72. He whipped and negotiated it.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:00 PM
Sunday

We will never get the ACA back. There will be no negotiation on it. And Democrats will be blamed.

hadEnuf

(3,457 posts)
82. We give in to the Republicans,
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:30 PM
Sunday

we inherit and own millions losing their healthcare or making insurance premiums unaffordable.

MarineCombatEngineer

(16,762 posts)
6. No disrespect to you and I'm not saying whether or not I believe,
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:31 PM
Sunday

but with all the inaccurate and fake news, I think I'll wait for more information before I jump on the jump on Schumer bandwagon.

mcar

(45,473 posts)
10. It appears to be more Axios/MSM stenography
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:35 PM
Sunday

and some here seem determined to push the "Schumer caved" narrative. I'll wait and see.

does this sound like a deal that’s done or someone trying to pressure dems into one

GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachine.com) 2025-11-09T20:09:51.027Z


senseandsensibility

(24,051 posts)
11. It's on CNN and MSNBC right now
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:35 PM
Sunday

Jonathan Karl posted about it. I think it's true. Claire McCaskill at this moment is on MSNBC with "inside" info about 10 Dems voting for this. MSNBC is saying the vote will be Monday though.

MarineCombatEngineer

(16,762 posts)
15. So it's still not a done deal.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:38 PM
Sunday

If, if this is true, then there will be hell to pay for this betrayal, but until I see it's true, I'm taking this with a huge grain of salt.

mcar

(45,473 posts)
19. Weren't they all reporting last week
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:44 PM
Sunday

that Mikie Sherrill was in deep trouble, per the polls? I'd like to know their sources - and that it's not just Republicans saying this.

mcar

(45,473 posts)
8. does this sound like a deal that's done
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:32 PM
Sunday

or someone trying to pressure Dems into one?

does this sound like a deal that’s done or someone trying to pressure dems into one

GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachine.com) 2025-11-09T20:09:51.027Z

richdj25

(211 posts)
13. I called Schumer's office.....
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:37 PM
Sunday

and left a message that I'm a progressive voter, who won't be pleased if Dems caved without actual extended benefits for Americans on the brink.

mzmolly

(52,540 posts)
22. Caving?
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:49 PM
Sunday

Democrats want people to have access to food and healthcare. As I understand it, the 'deals' being discussed would extend the ACA tax credits and reopen the Government.

senseandsensibility

(24,051 posts)
24. Do you have a source for the extending ACA credits?
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:52 PM
Sunday

That hasn't been part of any of the reporting I've seen but would be great if true.

mzmolly

(52,540 posts)
30. CBS and others are reporting on it.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:58 PM
Sunday
https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/government-shutdown-latest-senate-weekend-session/

Jeffries indicates House Democrats wouldn't support a promise to vote on extension of health insurance tax credits
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries said Sunday that House Democrats would be unlikely to support a promise to vote on extension of health insurance tax credits as part of a deal to reopen the government. Senate Majority Leader John Thune has offered to hold a vote on a pre-determined date, and the idea has been part of bipartisan talks in the Senate aimed at finding an offramp to end the shutdown.

"I don't think that the House Democratic caucus is prepared to support a promise, a wing and a prayer, from folks who have been devastating the health care of the American people for years," Jeffries said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

Jeffries outlined his support for a one-year extension of the tax credits, which Senate Democrats proposed Friday in exchange for reopening the government. Jeffries had previously opposed the idea, but said Sunday that Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer's proposal was "was offered in good faith," while noting that it "provides a path toward bipartisan negotiations for a multi-year extension."

senseandsensibility

(24,051 posts)
37. Okay, but the OP is about the Senate "caving"
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:04 PM
Sunday

not the House. They've been in session all day today and things are moving fast, apparently. If you believe Claire McCaskill on MSNBC, there are 10 Dems willing to vote for reopening the govt with only a promise to vote on the ACA extensions.

mzmolly

(52,540 posts)
39. Surely the house and senate
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:05 PM
Sunday

have conversations and any bill passed will go through the reconcilliation process.

.... which Senate Democrats proposed Friday in exchange for reopening the government.

Polybius

(21,156 posts)
69. The House has no filibuster though
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:45 PM
Sunday

They can pass it even without any Democrat's voting Yes.

Dangling0826

(44 posts)
25. They got a deal for a vote in the senate
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:54 PM
Sunday

Last edited Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:38 PM - Edit history (2)

What about the House? A vote is nothing it takes five minutes for the republicans to vote it done that is no deal it's a surrender.

onenote

(45,841 posts)
33. In which case, the repubs and only the repubs are the reason the government stays shut
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:01 PM
Sunday

Hard for Johnson to spin his way out of that.

standingtall

(3,144 posts)
26. There not getting 60 votes
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 03:56 PM
Sunday

Doing this would be a horrible mistake. Personally I think it's b.s. they should need 60 votes anyway. Republicans never needed 60 votes when they tried to repeal the affordable health care act or when they gutted medicaid while giving massive tax breaks to the ultra wealthy. They did it all under reconciliation so they can find a way to extend the ACA subsidies under reconciliation too.

If Democrats do this they will get absolutely nothing out of it.

standingtall

(3,144 posts)
79. Did you see the word tried in my post?
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:20 PM
Sunday

They tried to repeal it with a simply majority vote and didn't get it. Thanks to John McCain.

Deuxcents

(24,741 posts)
48. I'd like some facts and some plans..they know how to email and mail out for donations.. some facts, please
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:25 PM
Sunday

Emile

(39,090 posts)
59. Media bias analysts generally rate Axios as centrist or middle on the political spectrum.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:21 PM
Sunday

TBF

(35,278 posts)
38. If 10 democrats vote for this, they will be primaried.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:05 PM
Sunday

We need to primary out anybody supporting this. Enough is enough.

hamsterjill

(16,792 posts)
41. All is know is this:
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:19 PM
Sunday

If the Dems have come THIS far, then they need to see it through all the way. No fake promises from Republicans without ironclad issues written in stone. if the Dems have not learned YET that Republicans lie, cheat and steal, then they are never going to learn that concept.

Hoping this is NOT true, but my comment holds regardless. Democrats need to stick to their guns.

Deuxcents

(24,741 posts)
44. I just called Schumer's DC office..I said we marched, we voted and we gave you momentum..do not cave
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:22 PM
Sunday

everyonematters

(3,970 posts)
49. Trump doesn't give a shit. All he cares about is his ego. That's why there would never be a good ending to this.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:29 PM
Sunday

red dog 1

(32,119 posts)
61. "Chuck Schumer doing what he does best:"
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:39 PM
Sunday

Chuck Schumer doing what he does best: folding to Trump’s authoritarian regime and failing the American people. You’d think after last week, he’d understand the moment we’re in and the leverage he has. He must be replaced as leader immediately, and the out-of-touch corporate old guard needs to go.

50501: The People’s Movement ❌👑 (@50501movement.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T21:05:23.472Z

Paladin

(31,988 posts)
64. Agreed. Schumer has been unequal to the task, from the beginning.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:23 PM
Sunday

New Democratic leadership, just as soon as possible. Enough of this trump enablement.

Response to orangecrush (Original post)

Javaman

(64,881 posts)
63. The repukes are pressing the bullshit hard to change the narrative
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:11 PM
Sunday

Schumer is a senator not a rep.

Until I hear something from Jeffries, this is all bullshit

Lancero

(3,256 posts)
66. ACA subsidies for our time. Surely the word of Donadolf Trumpler and his party can be trusted...
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:37 PM
Sunday

Right?

Javaman

(64,881 posts)
92. Nope it didn't.. because as spineless as the repukes are to trump
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 09:40 PM
Sunday

The Dems are now showing them a thing or two

C_U_L8R

(48,521 posts)
68. No confidence
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 06:39 PM
Sunday

The pasture is calling.
We need leaders on our side that fight vigorously for the people of this country.

Demsrule86

(71,416 posts)
76. Oh yeah for sure. I guess the ACA doesn't matter
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:10 PM
Sunday

And some rich guy was getting the military money. And Democrats who supports this dead to me.

BigmanPigman

(54,364 posts)
80. I just called Schumer and there is still room for more voice mails!
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:24 PM
Sunday

Pleeeease call. There is room for more messages to be sent via voice mail so your message WILL be listened to. It takes 30 seconds. Tell Schumer not to cave!!!

senseandsensibility

(24,051 posts)
83. Yup
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 07:38 PM
Sunday

Hubby called first, and then finally said aren't you calling? Don't know why I was procrastinating, but I finally did it about a half hour ago and his voicemail wasn't full. Keep calling!

BigmanPigman

(54,364 posts)
85. I posted the phone number on YouTube podcast comments section and
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:05 PM
Sunday
?si=W84Pe4QUCv3gTYto

I got replies right away....very cool!!!!! People ARE calling. I hope it's not too late for Schumer to get "the message".

Ms. Toad

(37,980 posts)
87. I could support actually extending the credits for a year.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:10 PM
Sunday

Not ideal - but liveable, since I think we'll be in a better position a year from now to make a permanent extension.

But a promise to vote on whether or not to extend them is a whole lot of nothing. Nope.

flying-skeleton

(808 posts)
93. Traitors are amongst us ‼️
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 02:24 AM
Monday

These traitorous senators better have gotten rich from surrendering because they just ended their political careers and will have to live their lives in shame ‼️

I will donate to every one who primaries these traitors ‼️

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