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A handful of Senate Democrats on Sunday indicated they are ready to advance a package of bills that could end the government shutdown, multiple sources told Axios.
Why it matters: It is the most significant movement toward a bipartisan breakthrough in the talks to reopen the government in over a month.
At least 10 Senate Democrats are expected to support a procedural motion to advance a package of spending bills and a short term funding measure through the end of January, multiple sources from both parties told Axios.
The deal would include a December vote on a Democratic proposal to extend ACA tax credits for one year, multiple sources said. It would take 60 votes to pass.
It could also include some kind of language to help federal workers who have been laid off under the shutdown.
https://www.axios.com/2025/11/09/senate-deal-to-end-government-shutdown-sunday-vote
senseandsensibility
(24,051 posts)A promise of a vote on healthcare is nothing.
Maru Kitteh
(31,000 posts)Ms. Toad
(37,980 posts)even if they follow through on their promise to vote, they can still vote no and not break their promise.
Catbird
(735 posts)Baitball Blogger
(51,446 posts)This is exactly the reason why no one is showing much sorrow for Pelosi's announcement of retirement. It will be worse for Schumer.
tritsofme
(19,727 posts)He could be sacked this afternoon, its just that no members are interested in such a thing.
He was reelected unanimously.
Shipwack
(2,907 posts)Preserve the status quo for Third Way Democrats and centrists.
No rocking the boat.
No push for progressive policies.
Fight a little, but not so hard that you win.
Dont fire up the base, piss on progressives, dont challenge the Right.
LonePirate
(14,308 posts)Response to orangecrush (Original post)
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mcar
(45,473 posts)Why do you lead with "Schumer is caving?"
Samael13
(83 posts)mcar
(45,473 posts)Yeah, despite the rumblings from other reporters this still feels like another bit of Axios wishcasting.
— Kevin M. Kruse (@kevinmkruse.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T20:25:27.137Z
What's for certain is that any Democrat who votes to cave now and betray the base in exchange for nothing at all will live to regret it.
OK, "test vote" seems to give the game away.
— Kevin M. Kruse (@kevinmkruse.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T20:26:33.353Z
There's no deal.
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"No Democrats have publicly flipped their position."
MarineCombatEngineer
(16,762 posts)This is why I'm waiting on further information before I jump on the Jump on Sen. Schumer bandwagon.
Samael13
(83 posts)I hate that im supporting a shutdown but I dont trust republicans to deal fair or above board
I can also see why some Democrats really do want to re-open government, as their constituents are suffering. But I hope this is BS.
Attilatheblond
(7,781 posts)Cha
(315,774 posts)GD Punching Bag.
Mahalo for All your Information That "There Is No Deal".
So tired of the pile on.
Cha
(315,774 posts)So ready to jump on our Dems here on DU.
I really Appreciate all of us who don't get in on the Constant Bashing of Dems.. We've seen this bad scene before.. it led to the Traitor getting in our WH in the 1st place.
Demsrule86
(71,416 posts)And other stuff as well. Healthcare is important. Schumer supported the stupid bill in the first place and he has done this. And Snap is already cancelled so who did we help? I will support a primary for Schumer I think AOC could beat him. I will donate. Democrats need to stop caving. This empowers Trump and folks wont believe Democrats anymore.
I hope you are well Cha
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Cha
(315,774 posts)Demsrule86
(71,416 posts)They are checking the heart thoroughly. I had a valve replacement in 2023.
Demsrule86
(71,416 posts)We will never get the ACA back. There will be no negotiation on it. And Democrats will be blamed.
hadEnuf
(3,457 posts)we inherit and own millions losing their healthcare or making insurance premiums unaffordable.
Mr.WeRP
(1,050 posts)He turned his back on New Yorkers.
MarineCombatEngineer
(16,762 posts)but with all the inaccurate and fake news, I think I'll wait for more information before I jump on the jump on Schumer bandwagon.
mcar
(45,473 posts)and some here seem determined to push the "Schumer caved" narrative. I'll wait and see.
does this sound like a deal thatâs done or someone trying to pressure dems into one
— GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachine.com) 2025-11-09T20:09:51.027Z
senseandsensibility
(24,051 posts)Jonathan Karl posted about it. I think it's true. Claire McCaskill at this moment is on MSNBC with "inside" info about 10 Dems voting for this. MSNBC is saying the vote will be Monday though.
MarineCombatEngineer
(16,762 posts)If, if this is true, then there will be hell to pay for this betrayal, but until I see it's true, I'm taking this with a huge grain of salt.
senseandsensibility
(24,051 posts)MSNBC is now saying that Senate Dems will meet today and vote Monday.
vanessa_ca
(607 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(16,762 posts)vanessa_ca
(607 posts)orangecrush
(27,534 posts)mcar
(45,473 posts)that Mikie Sherrill was in deep trouble, per the polls? I'd like to know their sources - and that it's not just Republicans saying this.
mcar
(45,473 posts)or someone trying to pressure Dems into one?
does this sound like a deal thatâs done or someone trying to pressure dems into one
— GOLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachine.com) 2025-11-09T20:09:51.027Z
richdj25
(211 posts)and left a message that I'm a progressive voter, who won't be pleased if Dems caved without actual extended benefits for Americans on the brink.
Prairie_Seagull
(4,552 posts)Or he is done.
mzmolly
(52,540 posts)Democrats want people to have access to food and healthcare. As I understand it, the 'deals' being discussed would extend the ACA tax credits and reopen the Government.
senseandsensibility
(24,051 posts)That hasn't been part of any of the reporting I've seen but would be great if true.
mzmolly
(52,540 posts)House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries said Sunday that House Democrats would be unlikely to support a promise to vote on extension of health insurance tax credits as part of a deal to reopen the government. Senate Majority Leader John Thune has offered to hold a vote on a pre-determined date, and the idea has been part of bipartisan talks in the Senate aimed at finding an offramp to end the shutdown.
"I don't think that the House Democratic caucus is prepared to support a promise, a wing and a prayer, from folks who have been devastating the health care of the American people for years," Jeffries said on NBC's "Meet the Press."
Jeffries outlined his support for a one-year extension of the tax credits, which Senate Democrats proposed Friday in exchange for reopening the government. Jeffries had previously opposed the idea, but said Sunday that Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer's proposal was "was offered in good faith," while noting that it "provides a path toward bipartisan negotiations for a multi-year extension."
senseandsensibility
(24,051 posts)not the House. They've been in session all day today and things are moving fast, apparently. If you believe Claire McCaskill on MSNBC, there are 10 Dems willing to vote for reopening the govt with only a promise to vote on the ACA extensions.
mzmolly
(52,540 posts)have conversations and any bill passed will go through the reconcilliation process.
.... which Senate Democrats proposed Friday in exchange for reopening the government.
Polybius
(21,156 posts)They can pass it even without any Democrat's voting Yes.
Dangling0826
(44 posts)Last edited Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:38 PM - Edit history (2)
What about the House? A vote is nothing it takes five minutes for the republicans to vote it done that is no deal it's a surrender.
mzmolly
(52,540 posts)Jeffries indicates House Democrats wouldn't support a promise to vote on extension of health insurance tax credits
onenote
(45,841 posts)Hard for Johnson to spin his way out of that.
Dangling0826
(44 posts)standingtall
(3,144 posts)Doing this would be a horrible mistake. Personally I think it's b.s. they should need 60 votes anyway. Republicans never needed 60 votes when they tried to repeal the affordable health care act or when they gutted medicaid while giving massive tax breaks to the ultra wealthy. They did it all under reconciliation so they can find a way to extend the ACA subsidies under reconciliation too.
If Democrats do this they will get absolutely nothing out of it.
MichMan
(16,263 posts)standingtall
(3,144 posts)They tried to repeal it with a simply majority vote and didn't get it. Thanks to John McCain.
LudwigPastorius
(13,780 posts)TBF
(35,278 posts)orangecrush
(27,534 posts)Emile
(39,090 posts)ForgoTheConsequence
(5,135 posts)Would you prefer Newsmax?
mzmolly
(52,540 posts)period.
Deuxcents
(24,741 posts)mzmolly
(52,540 posts)we'll hear from leadership.
Deuxcents
(24,741 posts)Wiz Imp
(8,081 posts)Axios is not remotely "left leaning".
Emile
(39,090 posts)TBF
(35,278 posts)We need to primary out anybody supporting this. Enough is enough.
hamsterjill
(16,792 posts)If the Dems have come THIS far, then they need to see it through all the way. No fake promises from Republicans without ironclad issues written in stone. if the Dems have not learned YET that Republicans lie, cheat and steal, then they are never going to learn that concept.
Hoping this is NOT true, but my comment holds regardless. Democrats need to stick to their guns.
vanessa_ca
(607 posts)Deuxcents
(24,741 posts)everyonematters
(3,970 posts)EnergizedLib
(2,895 posts)I should be thrilled the Bears won, ruined by this.
orangecrush
(27,534 posts)Sorry.
SamuelTheThird
(419 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(16,762 posts)Maru Kitteh
(31,000 posts)Its a theme. You know, like fascism.
red dog 1
(32,119 posts)Chuck Schumer doing what he does best: folding to Trumpâs authoritarian regime and failing the American people. Youâd think after last week, heâd understand the moment weâre in and the leverage he has. He must be replaced as leader immediately, and the out-of-touch corporate old guard needs to go.
— 50501: The Peopleâs Movement âð (@50501movement.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T21:05:23.472Z
Paladin
(31,988 posts)New Democratic leadership, just as soon as possible. Enough of this trump enablement.
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Javaman
(64,881 posts)Schumer is a senator not a rep.
Until I hear something from Jeffries, this is all bullshit
Ars Longa
(348 posts)Period!!
Lancero
(3,256 posts)Right?
Javaman
(64,881 posts)Polybius
(21,156 posts)Javaman
(64,881 posts)The Dems are now showing them a thing or two
C_U_L8R
(48,521 posts)The pasture is calling.
We need leaders on our side that fight vigorously for the people of this country.
Demsrule86
(71,416 posts)orangecrush
(27,534 posts)Jacson6
(1,643 posts)Demsrule86
(71,416 posts)And some rich guy was getting the military money. And Democrats who supports this dead to me.
BigmanPigman
(54,364 posts)Pleeeease call. There is room for more messages to be sent via voice mail so your message WILL be listened to. It takes 30 seconds. Tell Schumer not to cave!!!
senseandsensibility
(24,051 posts)Hubby called first, and then finally said aren't you calling? Don't know why I was procrastinating, but I finally did it about a half hour ago and his voicemail wasn't full. Keep calling!
orangecrush
(27,534 posts)BigmanPigman
(54,364 posts)I got replies right away....very cool!!!!! People ARE calling. I hope it's not too late for Schumer to get "the message".
orangecrush
(27,534 posts)Ms. Toad
(37,980 posts)Not ideal - but liveable, since I think we'll be in a better position a year from now to make a permanent extension.
But a promise to vote on whether or not to extend them is a whole lot of nothing. Nope.
flying-skeleton
(808 posts)These traitorous senators better have gotten rich from surrendering because they just ended their political careers and will have to live their lives in shame ‼️
I will donate to every one who primaries these traitors ‼️