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I don't want to get in the way of the mass hysteria, but:
A word of caution about the new Axios report that Dem Senators are caving. Remember the NYT ran articles for months claiming that Harvard was caving, which.. never happened. Turns out their anonymous sources were Trump staffers. Axios may be similar.
— capitolhunters (@capitolhunters.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T21:29:05.773Z
But, it never hurts to call your Senator.
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Here's the Axios article. They claim to have sources in "both parties" but they have zero people on the record, nor do they provide any explanation for why their sources were granted anonymity. Anonymous, possibly motivated rumor didn't used to be considered journalism. 2/
— capitolhunters (@capitolhunters.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T21:29:05.807Z
Semafor reports the same story - "Deal to reopen government starts to come together" - but while they quote 3 GOP Senators, they have no Dems on the record. Mullin and Rounds say things like "Itâs just a matter of one or two things to be worked out". No specifics. 3/
— capitolhunters (@capitolhunters.bsky.social) 2025-11-09T21:34:22.063Z
www.yahoo.com/news/article...
Irish_Dem
(77,800 posts)To fight and fight hard.
mcar
(45,473 posts)No harm in calling them, though.
Irish_Dem
(77,800 posts)Oneironaut
(6,145 posts)It would indeed be monumentally stupid and hurt so many people. Hopefully the Democrats are not caving and do not give Trump a massive victory and boost to his popularity, which he will gloat about for weeks while killing the most vulnerable people in society.
Caving with no compromise should not even be a possibility. It would be absolutely brain dead.
Irish_Dem
(77,800 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(16,762 posts)I basically wanted to say pretty much the same thing, but my words would've been a lot harsher which probably would've earned me a post removal, but you said it much more diplomatically.
mcar
(45,473 posts)I would have thought that, by now, we'd all be a bit more skeptical.
I hope I'm right about it and will be sorely disappointed if it turns out to be true.
Quiet Em
(2,483 posts)and it seems that some are pushing what the con and the Republicans want the narrative to be.
There are so very few sources I trust at this point.
But Hakeem Jeffries said today that House Democrats will not pass any legislation that only offers a future discussion on health care prices. Any such legislation will be DOA.
mcar
(45,473 posts)This exactly! They all just want the "breaking news!!11" and "Dems in disarray."
And, of course, too many on social media want to knee jerk hate Democrats.
sheshe2
(94,824 posts)karynnj
(60,671 posts)it would not be DOA.
Our best hope is that at least several R representatives realize that they will lose if they vote for something that eliminates the subsidies.
canetoad
(19,821 posts)This is the kind of thing trump, miller etc would gleefully spread around.
ProfessorGAC
(75,188 posts)And we're supposed to believe anything he says?
He just got caught making up a lie about working with Trump in DC while Trump was actually in Florida.
Nothing he says should be taken as fact.
mcar
(45,473 posts)I see no Democrats stepping up, even Fetterman.
MarineCombatEngineer
(16,762 posts)are having their phones blowing up right about now, I called my Sen., Kelly, to voice my opinion and then I called Sen. Schumer's office and did the same thing.
If this is the typical repub. attempt at a rat fuck, I feel for these Sen.
mcar
(45,473 posts)I'm reading reports on Bluesky of people screaming and cursing at their senators. I'm still waiting to hear from a D Senator who says they are voting for this, rather than Redneck Mullin and a few other RWNJs.
MarineCombatEngineer
(16,762 posts)they're pretty well known for this, but it still doesn't hurt to call and respectfully leave an opinion.
sheshe2
(94,824 posts)Cha
(315,774 posts)do?
TY
Cha
(315,774 posts)Mahalo!
brer cat
(27,218 posts)TBF
(35,278 posts)progressoid
(52,296 posts)lastlib
(27,101 posts)Yeah, that'll get it all worked out........
evolves
(5,672 posts)Marsha Ms. Hair Blackburn or Bill Worthless Tool Hagerty.
tanyev
(48,279 posts)spanone
(140,655 posts)yaesu
(8,807 posts)to see a democracy in this country ever again.
BigmanPigman
(54,364 posts)I call senators and congressmen a lot and it is always a good thing when I hear that the politicians' voice mail/messages is full.
This leads me to believe that not enough people are calling and expressing their opinions to Schumer.
Pleeeeeeaaaaaase call him!!!!! +1 (202) 224-6542.
Warpy
(114,187 posts)because Democrats, even the jellyfish among them, are not in a caving sort of mood, not after last Tiesday confirmaed the fact that America by and large isn't buiying that Republican pack of lies about the shutdown.
"Aw, go ahead and tun that story. It's worked in the past, the American people are really stupid, they'll buy it again."
It's why I knew the NYT was nothing but fishwrap 50 years ago.
BumRushDaShow
(163,191 posts)mcar
(45,473 posts)I hope it's just the usual media "Dems in disarray" pile on.
BumRushDaShow
(163,191 posts)But again - the caveats are "the vote", and then if what they have isn't what the House passed, then it HAS to go BACK to the House that Johnson refuses to call into session in order to stifle the Epstein discharge petition and it will really put the pressure on him to swear in Adelita Grijalva.
Hotler
(13,605 posts)Cry bag about not having the votes then give votes away when they have some leverage.